What phone you use as your daily driver? And, a discussion of them.

[freeagent]

You buy Apple for the name and/or software, not for the features.

They have some neat features. And they are pretty tough too, as well as waterproof. If I need a computer, I have a couple of those already

I like my phone

I do have the terabyte model.. it is excessive for certain.

thats only applicable for apples. i think even they stopped it after a lawsuit or something?

They did that because they didn't want their phones to restart like an old android that was asked to do too much at once without being plugged in.

Edit:

My 5 year old iPhone will be getting iOS 18.. still a good phone.

 

[Dragam1337]

thats only applicable for apples. i think even they stopped it after a lawsuit or something?

its just that newer software is more optimized to make the most of the more powerful resources of latest gen devices.

Are you the most blue eyed guy in the world?

On Samsung I usually update the software, back up everything ,hard reset the phone then restore. I do this maybe once a year to keep it responsive

Past the first year you really gain nothing from updating the phone, aside of making it slower.

That is unless you jailbreak the phone, and install a new version of the OS which is free of the "updates" meant to make your phone slower to incentivize you buy a new phone.

 

[Onasi]

I used an iPhone 6S from... pretty much its release and up to when Apple ended the support last summer. So I just went out and bought a 13 Mini which I plan to keep for the same amount of time. Hopefully, by that time the cycle will run around back to smaller phones being produced or foldables start being reliable and affordable. I care nothing for Apple and their ecosystem, really, but the length of support is impressive and I DESPISE large phones. I don't watch videos on my phone or play games, I use it as a phone (communicator, really), internet device and on occasion a music player. I want it to fit comfortably into my pants pocket or an inner suit jacket pocket. I want to be comfortable using it one handed and I don't really have big hands (medium-ish). So at that point in time the 13 Mini was the only device with respectable specs at the size I wanted.

 

[Dragam1337]

I used an iPhone 6S from... pretty much its release and up to when Apple ended the support last summer. So I just went out and bought a 13 Mini which I plan to keep for the same amount of time. Hopefully, by that time the cycle will run around back to smaller phones being produced or foldables start being reliable and affordable. I care nothing for Apple and their ecosystem, really, but the length of support is impressive and I DESPISE large phones. I don't watch videos on my phone or play games, I use it as a phone (communicator, really), internet device and on occasion a music player. I want it to fit comfortably into my pants pocket or an inner suit jacket pocket. I want to be comfortable using it one handed and I don't really have big hands (medium-ish). So at that point in time the 13 Mini was the only device with respectable specs at the size I wanted.

Agree with this so much - hate this fablet trend.

A 6" phone is now considered small... ridiculous.

 

[DaemonForce]

I've used some kind of Lumia for the past 10 years to handle this and that but just noticed that BOTH of them are finally junk.
I'm not part of Apple's weird cult garden and Samsung is mostly foreign to me but I'm now stuck choosing between an S20 5G or iPhone11/12.
I don't really need much other than text, email and SDXC support but I'm looking into useful face tracking technologies that seem tied to the Kinect and iPhone X.
I hear gripes from both sides about Droid updates that cause pink/green line issues or remove consumer features and then there's insufferably awful iOS17 updates. Wat do?

 

[AusWolf]

They have some neat features. And they are pretty tough too, as well as waterproof. If I need a computer, I have a couple of those already

I wouldn't call anything with an aluminium/glass back panel tough. My Blackview N6000 is rated for drop resistance up to 60 metres. Now, that's tough.

 

[Onasi]

Agree with this so much - hate this fablet trend.

A 6" phone is now considered small... ridiculous.

Yeah, when I was making a choice a friend of mine went "Oh, you want small? No problem, don't have to go Apple, look at Xperia 5 V, they are like Xperia Compacts of old". So I did. It was a 6.1 inch phone. Like... yeah, its... relatively small by Android flagship standards, but... come on.

 

[dgianstefani]

Are you the most blue eyed guy in the world?



Past the first year you really gain nothing from updating the phone, aside of making it slower.

That is unless you jailbreak the phone, and install a new version of the OS which is free of the "updates" meant to make your phone slower to incentivize you buy a new phone.

I'm literally using a five year old S10+ Ceramic 512 GB (Snapdragon), and the phone has only gotten faster with newer versions of Android.

If your phone gets slower with time it's a skill issue, or you made the mistake of buying an iPhone (Apple publicly admitted to slowing down older phones to limit worn battery drain).

I have zero desire to upgrade until S series with solid state battery releases, so probably another two or three generations.

If you don't update your daily driver, have fun with no security updates...

 

[AusWolf]

Agree with this so much - hate this fablet trend.

A 6" phone is now considered small... ridiculous.

Yeah, when I was making a choice a friend of mine went "Oh, you want small? No problem, don't have to go Apple, look at Xperia 5 V, they are like Xperia Compacts of old". So I did. It was a 6.1 inch phone. Like... yeah, its... relatively small by Android flagship standards, but... come on.

I don't want to sound like an advert, but look at the Blackview N6000. Rugged phone with a 4.3-inch screen. This is where small begins.

 

[JrRacinFan]

ANyone got a Redmagic phone? I've been eyeing the Redmagic 9 but also waiting to see if any upcoming Android phones will have Qi2 support.

 

[Onasi]

I don't want to sound like an advert, but look at the Blackview N6000. Rugged phone with a 4.3-inch screen. This is where small begins.

I mean, I am fine for now, but if by the time my 13 Mini isn't supported in 5 years and there is nothing else decent out there I might have to go with a small rugged option. I don't NEED rugged, but I need a 7 inch monstrosity even less.

 

[AusWolf]

I mean, I am fine for now, but if by the time my 13 Mini isn't supported in 5 years and there is nothing else decent out there I might have to go with a small rugged option. I don't NEED rugged, but I need a 7 inch monstrosity even less.

I get you. I didn't need ruggedness either, but I did miss one-handed phones very much, so I couldn't skip buying this.

 

[Dragam1337]

I'm literally using a five year old S10+ Ceramic 512 GB (Snapdragon), and the phone has only gotten faster with newer versions of Android.

If your phone gets slower with time it's a skill issue, or you made the mistake of buying an iPhone (Apple publicly admitted to slowing down older phones to limit worn battery drain).

I have zero desire to upgrade until S series with solid state battery releases, so probably another two or three generations.

If you don't update your daily driver, have fun with no security updates...

And you claim that it has gotten faster based on what? Benchmark scores? Or actual usage ? They can easily cheese it so one gets faster and the other gets slower... and it aint the real usage that gets faster.

The company i work at bought a ton of s10's, and nearly everyone still using them are complaining about them becoming slooooow, and they are visibly very slow. Granted this is eu, so it's the sh1tty exynos variant, but that is the reality for the markets that samsung deems to be 2nd tier. But regardless, the benchmark results are better with the latest updates, but actual usage becomes terrible - and vice versa for the phones that never got updated.

 

[dgianstefani]

I mean, I am fine for now, but if by the time my 13 Mini isn't supported in 5 years and there is nothing else decent out there I might have to go with a small rugged option. I don't NEED rugged, but I need a 7 inch monstrosity even less.

Folding phones are becoming very mature.

And you claim that it has gotten faster based on what? Benchmark scores? Or actual usage ? They can easily cheese it so one gets faster and the other gets slower... and it aint the real usage that gets faster.

The company i work at bought a ton of s10's, and nearly everyone still using them are complaining about them becoming slooooow, and they are visibly very slow. Granted this is eu, so it's the sh1tty exynos variant, but that is the reality for the markets that samsung deems to be 2nd tier. But regardless, the benchmark results are better with the latest updates, but actual usage becomes terrible - and vice versa for the phones that never got updated.

Usage and benchmarks bud. Probably helps I didn't fall into the trap of getting the cheapest variant with the smallest flash storage capacity. Besides, if they bought Exynos, that's pretty much their own fault. There's alternatives in the EU market that don't use that inefficient series.

Companies know next to nothing about setting up phones. They just load more and more software on in layers till it's a pile of bloat, then IT get's an excuse to upgrade the fleet.

 

[Dragam1337]

Folding phones are becoming very mature.

Yeah, cause that will last 5+ years for sure... /s

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah, cause that will last 5+ years for sure... /s

Do you have anything constructive to say? Personal usage experience of what you're referring to?

ANyone got a Redmagic phone? I've been eyeing the Redmagic 9 but also waiting to see if any upcoming Android phones will have Qi2 support.

notebookcheck.net has thorough smartphone reviews. GSMArena is also useful for comparing specifications.

 

[Onasi]

Folding phones are becoming very mature.

I am eyeing those too. Will see where they will be in a couple of years. I had couple flip phones back in the day, I like the formfactor.

 

[Dragam1337]

Besides, if they bought Exynos, that's pretty much their own fault. There's alternatives in the EU market that don't use that inefficient series.

Not ones that are deemed adequetely secure (aka all the chinese brands), or willing to give large discounts like samsung are doing. Buying roughly 10k phones per year, we only pay a bit over half the regular market value. Google for instance were not willing / able to meet that. Apple were, so that's the other brand being used (although i think it's a MASSIVE waste of money, as they still cost literally twice as much as samsung phones, and the vast majority of employees do not adhere to the rules regarding apple ID, thus the iphones are right for the waste bin when they stop, unless we do a huge amount of leg work...)

Do you have anything constructive to say? Personal usage experience of what you're referring to?


notebookcheck.net has thorough smartphone reviews. GSMArena is also useful for comparing specifications.

Nope, there is plenty of evidence online for that - plus it should be obvious that the screen as a moving part will be a point of failure.

 

[dgianstefani]

Nope, there is plenty of evidence online for that - plus it should be obvious that the screen as a moving part will be a point of failure.

Personal usage experience of what you're referring to?

So, no personal experience then.

The cameras are moving parts, so are classic flip phones, laptops, etc. None of these have long term durability issues once the initial bugs were ironed out and the tech matured. We're now on the fifth generation of folding phones, and each has been more durable than the last (even now becoming rated for water/dust resistance), with teardowns and durability tests from people like JerryRigEverything showing this in destructive fashion. If anything, a folding/flipping phone has more potential durability since you can cover the main screen when not in use, unlike a standard phone, which requires third party cases to do the same thing.

Something to note as well about materials with plastic mechanical properties, deformation is good for durability. A hard and brittle material like tempered glass or metal will conduct shock, a flexible material (with a hard coating/top layer, like that used in the screens of folding phones) will absorb it. Much more likely to break a classic phone by dropping it than any of the folding/flipping flexible ones. It's also why moving from plastic to metal for phone bodies was primarily aesthetic, not functional.

 

[Dragam1337]

So, no personal experience then.

The cameras are moving parts, so are classic flip phones, laptops, etc. None of these have long term durability issues once the initial bugs were ironed out and the tech matured. We're now on the fifth generation of folding phones, and each has been more durable than the last, with teardowns and durability tests from people like JerryRigEverything showing this in destructive fashion. If anything, a folding/flipping phone has more potential durability since you can cover the main screen when not in use, unlike a standard phone, which requires third party cases to do the same thing.

Yeah, cause having moving joints in a flip phone or laptop is totally comparable to having actual bending plastic...

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah, cause having moving joints in a flip phone or laptop is totally comparable to having actual bending plastic...

Maybe stop moving the goalposts on a topic where you have admitted you have no personal experience.

The next generation of folding phones will have digital pen support, due to further advancements in the ultra thin glass layer above the flexible OLED, so minor imperfections from fingernails won't be an issue anymore.

 

[Dragam1337]

Maybe stop moving the goalposts on a topic where you have admitted you have no personal experience.

You gave it as an example - i am saying they are not comparable, cause they aren't. Obviously bending a material will be vastly more susceptible to wear than a joint. If you watch linus tech tips vids, you will see is with his folding phones aswell.

 

[dgianstefani]

You gave it as an example - i am saying they are not comparable, cause they aren't. Obviously bending a material will be vastly more susceptible to wear than a joint. If you watch linus tech tips vids, you will see is with his folding phones aswell.

Is it obvious? Does bending a piece of plastic designed to bend (around a geared metal joint by the way, in a preselected specific vector of movement around a circle, not a point) wear it out? The material is not being stretched either, as the mechanism has allowances for that.

Joint in question.

I don't consider LTT to be an expert on anything, so I won't be watching his videos.

 

[ir_cow]

Once the ability to remove the battery was gone in the US market, I switched to Google Pixel. The trade in programs are great. Paid $100 for a used Pixel 4a. Google Gave me $200 for it towards a Pixel 8 while it was on sale too. Sold the Pixel 8 new for under MSRP but over what I paid. Took the money got a Pixel 7a on eBay for essentially free. Work the system

 

[de.das.dude]

Are you the most blue eyed guy in the world?



Past the first year you really gain nothing from updating the phone, aside of making it slower.

That is unless you jailbreak the phone, and install a new version of the OS which is free of the "updates" meant to make your phone slower to incentivize you buy a new phone.

no i just have been working in software dev for 10+ years now. so i know the challenges and the conspiracies created by tinfoil wearing folks.

there is planned obsolescence but then there is simple "your hardware is slow"

what next, are you telling me GPU drivers make your GPU slow so that you buy new GPUs? No its not that, its just that games are more demanding (and devs are shitty at optimizing these days)