I just can't do it. I really want AMD to win and to completely smash Intel. Why? To finally make the Intel fanboys shut up and stop all their gloating.
Part of me wants AMD to fall short on Ryzen 7000. We've all seen what a complacent AMD looks like (Ryzen 5000 pricing 2020, RDNA2 supply 2020-2021). But an AMD up against the ropes also sends AGESA straight to the dark ages which is far worse, so i'll just hope for some close and healthy competition this generation.
I've not seen any real masses of Intel fanboys since the 9900K. Intel didn't give them much ammunition after
But whenever something new comes up (eg. fTPM stutter) and we want AMD to fix asap, first to chime in are always the Ryzen-can-do-no-wrong gang. "I've never had any stutter on my Ryzen" "well Intel has x problem and it's worse". The fTPM issue was lucky, in that it simply got too big to ignore with evidence too damning to explain otherwise.
The hardware is [now] solid. But 3 years of offloading QA onto the customer - getting sick of it.
That's exactly the issue i'm having. I'm doing a full system rebuild end of September so logically AM5 would make sense but given there previous track record i'm not sure if I want to be a guinea pig. The other alternative would be Alderlake (most motherboards have had 3 or 4 bios updates since launch) with a 12400 and then get a discounted 13th gen chip when 14th gen comes out
I'm thinking the same, wanting to get on the trailing edge instead of the leading edge of releases, for a change. Tired of paying more for less. 11th gen let me down last time, though, from the rumors I'm not blown away by 13th gen. If not, AM5 is chock full of life - waiting for 8000 is easy.
I should revise my statement - 6 months into production seems to be the golden ticket for AMD. Yields and AGESA have matured to a point where CPU is exactly as advertised, and might even get in on some price drops too.
But there's no reason why we should consider that "acceptable". 6 months is halfway to the next release...