what/which is a really big pc case?

[THE_EGG]

it doesn't have aesthetics that appeal to me but maybe the CM Stacker 935?http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower-haf-series/haf935/

 

[Shambles1980]

that actually looks like a good idea for a case.
may get one of those then. i did think some one must have decided cases need more space for water cooling "well apart from me lol"

 

[MT Alex]

my last water cooling was thermaltake big water...

I rest my case.

The only real issue with water cooling is its hard to get the water back to ambient again. its really good at picking up heat. its great at that. but releasing it again is something that it really isnt great at. This isnt an issue if your computer doesn't stay on 24/7 365 but mine does. even at low loads it will heat that water up gradually until its not working at the correct efficiency. the only real way to combat that is to have a large reservoir and 2 big radiators..
As long as you can get the water back to ambient temps by the time it hits the reservoir your golden. if you cant manage that then you need a large reservoir so it has some additional time to cool before going back round again.

thats the only issue. and thats not something that bothers me, provided i can get a case large enough to hold it all in

My rig runs 24/7, CPU never goes above 45 on full load, VGA almost never above 40, no loud fans, it looks nice, and I don't have a kiddie pool sitting next to my desk. It's not at all about getting your water back to ambient temperature, it's about reaching an equilibrium that is acceptable. No kidding.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/your-pc-atm.65012/page-985#post-2953368

 

[MxPhenom 216]

But the long and short of it was. there simply isn't enough room in a conventional case for a custom loop that will outperform good air cooling by enough to make it worth the hassle.

What is your definition of a conventional case? Have you not seen that most cases being released on the market these days are fitted with support for at least 240/280mm radiators? single good quality 240 radiator for CPU cooling alone will prove to be much better than air, and you can find multiple cases to do that. Hell, I have a 750D that is smaller than MT Alex 800D build and I am running a 360 and and a 240 radiator and my GPU never touches 50c (air it would get to 70-80c, itll never touch 40c if I leave the voltage and clocks at stock) and then I think we all know how Haswell is. It gets hot, but I believe I could not get much of an overclock out of my chip on air.

You say your last water cooling was the Thermaltake big water. Things have changed. You know not of what you speak.

You do water cooling the right way, plan, and optimize your space, water cooling is easily well worth it. Water cooling doesnt just come lower temps. It can be quieter (again if you do it right), and most of all aesthetically it can't be beaten.

Don't delid a 2500k, you won't gain anything from it.
Here is an example of a vertical doubled case


dual hafs horizontal cases

dual lian lis


i think you get the idea lol


another idea is a test bench

You can't really delid a 2500k without destroying the chip to begin with. Its soldered on. Chances are, you try to take the IHS off, the die of the CPU will come with it, rendering it an unusable destroyed CPU.

 

[Shambles1980]

you can delid them you just have to heat the ihs up after you did your cuts to melt the solder. but from what i see it is utterly pointless,
the ihs is in good contact because of the solder. and it makes good thermal connectivity, so risk vs reward renders it pretty useless. i have seen people post temp drops of 5-10c after de-lidding then cleaning a 2500k, using mx-2 as the thermal compound, but i dont really believe those numbers. i dont think that mx-2 is a better thermal conductor than the solder. and only reall gain would be if you had your block/heat sink in direct contact without the ihs at all. but the 5-10c results i saw posted were with the ihs on. so i dont really believe it.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

you can delid them you just have to heat the ihs up after you did your cuts to melt the solder. but from what i see it is utterly pointless,
the ihs is in good contact because of the solder. and it makes good thermal connectivity, so risk vs reward renders it pretty useless. i have seen people post temp drops of 5-10c after de-lidding then cleaning a 2500k, using mx-2 as the thermal compound, but i dont really believe those numbers. i dont think that mx-2 is a better thermal conductor than the solder. and only reall gain would be if you had your block/heat sink in direct contact without the ihs at all. but the 5-10c results i saw posted were with the ihs on. so i dont really believe it.

Uh yeah. The users that have Ivy Bridge, and Haswell want solder under the heatspreader. You already have that.

 

[debs3759]

I see nobody has mentioned Little Devil cases yet. I have a PC-V10 and it is big enough for 3 360 mm radiators, one at the top and 2 at the bottom. Loads of room in them You could probably fit a 480 at the top

 

[n0tiert]

also a huge case is the

Lian Li PC-V2120X

http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-v2120/

 

[P4-630]

Another huge case http://www.mountainmods.com/ascensi...-p-483.html?osCsid=dp12vru1na64vhciu80rov66u3

 

[Vario]

The Pinnacle is pretty nice looking
http://www.mountainmods.com/pinnacle-24-cyo-custom-computer-case-p-498.html

Then there is Case Labs, which is as good as it can get...
http://www.caselabs-store.com/merlin-st10-case/
http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-sth10/

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Don't like MM cases, my mate bought one, cost £300 and never came with any extras at all, basically 6 pieces of aluminium for £300 fuck that.

Case labs all the way.

 

[Shambles1980]

what is this case? http://img.techpowerup.org/130730/48.jpg

 

[sneekypeet]

looks like a slightly modded 800D

 

[Shambles1980]

ok.. would an avp diablo have more space than it?
or is the 800d better than the diablo

 

[MxPhenom 216]

If you want space, why aren't you looking at the 900D?

That should be enough to fill it with all the radiators you think you need for your low tdp CPU.

looks like a slightly modded 800D

It is @MT Alex 700D, they do not make the 700D anymore. Its either the 750D or 800D.

 

[Shambles1980]

If you want space, why aren't you looking at the 900D?

That should be enough to fill it with all the radiators you think you need for your low tdp CPU.



It is @MT Alex 700D, they do not make the 700D anymore. Its either the 750D or 800D.

why would any one assume that the processor wont be changed some where allong the line?

for enthusiasts some of you really aren't that "enthusiastic"

 

[TRWOV]

I don't know if it would suit your specifical needs (I see you asked for 5 5.25 bays but didn't state for what) but have you looked at NZTX's H440? Can fit 2 360 radiators (top and front). http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NZXT/H440/

 

[eidairaman1]

http://www.aerocool.com.tw/index.php/chassis/pgs/pgs-b

XPredator Original Series

 

[MxPhenom 216]

why would any one assume that the processor wont be changed some where allong the line?

for enthusiasts some of you really aren't that "enthusiastic"

I guess you are pretty new to this whole thing. Why do you assume that new CPUs coming out will put out more heat? One of the many goals for new CPUs for the future is lower power consumption and less heat. New CPUs coming out wont have a 400w TDP, meaning you dont need 10 radiators.

Hell you can run Sandy and Ivy Bridge E chips (Which have higher TDP then the 2500k, and put out quite a bit more heat) on a single 240/280 radiator thats about 45mm-60mm thick (EK XTX, Alphacool XT45/UT60, New BlackIce Nemesis, etc.) and achieve pretty damn good temps.

We are enthusiasts, we also think in a practicality sense.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

3960x and 4960x with a 25 mm x 240 mm rad with no res just block pump combo via swiftech and my temps were perfectly fine. super huge rads looks cool but are kinda worhtless unless watercooling 2-3 GPUs etc.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

3960x and 4960x with a 25 mm x 240 mm rad with no res just block pump combo via swiftech and my temps were perfectly fine. super huge rads looks cool but are kinda worhtless unless watercooling 2-3 GPUs etc.

 

[Shambles1980]

well given that some of you insist that closed loops are now decent. i decided to get a small closed loop that wasnt going to cost millions, i figured if it isnt good enough then i could always mod it a bit and add my old radiator to the loop with a small resivuoir with built in pump.

did a bit of research, decided that for the case i have that i would go with a small 120 but a fatter one. so i settled for a tundra td03 from what i see its a decent performer with a reasonable block. this at the least will give me scope to improve on it if i think its not good enough.
hopefully it will be good enough. although the last time i decided to buy something against my better judgment because people were telling me its not as bad as i think. i ended up with a bulldozer chip and it sucked fat hairy ones.

 

[arskatb]

http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-d600/

 

[Shambles1980]

thats the kind of thing i was looking for. That looks like the perfect case for water cooling!

 

[remixedcat]

@de.das.dude DDD would be more than happy to make you a HUGE CASE OF DOOM!!!