What's on your hardware wish list ?

[StrayKAT]

How about filling out system specs there Stray...

Done.. and subject to change.

Speaking of Optane, looks like Intel's new drives will have U.2 options. I may very well get one of those one day. I hate having a useless port.

 

[EarthDog]

Your m.2 drive is nvme...your m.2 port(s) only support SATA. Check your manual/specs.

You are going to have to use the annoyingly still exists u.2 port...there are u.2 to m.2 adapters... or pcie AOC for your m.2.

 

[StrayKAT]

Your m.2 drive is nvme...your m.2 port(s) only support SATA. Check you manual/specs.

You are going to have to use the annoyingly still exists u.2 port...there are u.2 m.2 adapters... or pcie.

I have 2 m.2's and 2 u.2's.

But Intel's new/rumored SSDs will be PCIe or U.2

edit: I guess this particular board is weird for a 270. It's got some server/workstation features, as that's what the company is mainly known for.

 

[EarthDog]

The number is totally irrelevant. My point is that board only supports SATA based M.2 modules, not NVME.

There are just a couple of U.2 devices out there. If it satisfies your OCD to use one, there certainly isn't an issue in doing so. Just be careful as sometimes SATA ports are disabled when using M.2/U.2 devices depending on which one and where its lanes are sourced from. RTM for details.

For $225ish bucks, its a surprise it doesn't have NVMe support... Supermicro isn't typically a 'go-to' for enthusiasts.

 

[StrayKAT]

The number is totally irrelevant. My point is that board only supports SATA based M.2 modules, not NVME.

There are just a couple of U.2 devices out there. If it satisfies your OCD to use one, there certainly isn't an issue in doing so. Just be careful as sometimes SATA ports are disabled when using M.2/U.2 devices depending on which one and where its lanes are sourced from. RTM for details.

Ah I see.

What does this mean btw?

2 PCIe 3.0 x4 U.2 (1 share with M.2)(RAID 0,1 support)

I know there aren't many U.2 devices (and they're all outrageously priced). I'm just mentioning it because this was today's news and had me curious if I may find a use for those ports after all. I noticed TechPowerUp was actually writing an article... but it hasn't showed up. Apparently Intel is gearing these for the consumer market, but I doubt they'll be that cheap.

 

[StrayKAT]

Wait... what do you also mean by this board doesn't support nvme? I'm so confused now. I have an nvme drive (that I just took out). Are you saying it's only SATA... and merely looks like an nvme drive?

And why is the interface listed as PCIe?

1x PCIe3.0 x4 (Rear Open) for Thunderbolt AIC support
2x PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 (M-key)(2x support 22110)(RAID 0,1 support)
2x PCIe 3.0 x4 U.2 (RAID 0,1 support)


Sorry for the double posts and all the questions.

 

[EarthDog]

M.2 is the slot. M.2 slots can handle SATA and/or NVMe protocol/interface modules. You are saying your drive is NVMe based. However, the specifications for your board state it only supports SATA based modules.

M.2 Interface: SATA
M.2 Form Factor: 22110 (RAID 0,1 support)
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Core/Z270/C7Z270-PG.cfm

Did i get the right board? Pretty sure its the one listed in the signature.

Edit: its listed as pcie because that is where the lanes are sourced and its bandwidth.

Not sure where you copied your portion from, but you missed the part in the SATA section of your board this line....
+ 2 PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 (M-key)(2x supports 22110, 1 compatible with SATA)(RAID 0,1 support)

.....wait.. it says ONE compatible with sata...wth? Specs are confusing as hell. One is likely nvme only the other is sata and nvme.

 

[StrayKAT]

M.2 is the slot. M.2 slots can handle SATA and/or NVMe protocol/interface modules. You are saying your drive is NVMe based. However, the specifications for your board state it only supports SATA based modules.

M.2 Interface: SATA
M.2 Form Factor: 22110 (RAID 0,1 support)
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Core/Z270/C7Z270-PG.cfm

Did i get the right board? Pretty sure its the one listed in the signature.

That's it. But technically, it's Supermicro's consumer brand "SuperO".

http://www.supero.com/en/product-series/31-c7z270-pg.html

The specs seem more or less the same, but I don't see anything about SATA M.2 on that site. And the advertising blurbs don't say it either.

In the manual, it just says

PCI-E M.2 Connector (PCI-E M.2)
The PCI-E M.2 connector is for devices such as memory cards, wireless
adapters, etc. These devices must conform to the PCIE M.2 specifications
(fromerly known as NGFF).

 

[cucker tarlson]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826249164

is it worth buying those for ~$55 ? They're new,with 36 month warranty,on special offer today...

 

[EarthDog]

That's it. But technically, it's Supermicro's consumer brand "SuperO".

http://www.supero.com/en/product-series/31-c7z270-pg.html

The specs seem more or less the same, but I don't see anything about SATA M.2 on that site. And the advertising blurbs don't say it either.

In the manual, it just says

PCI-E M.2 Connector (PCI-E M.2)
The PCI-E M.2 connector is for devices such as memory cards, wireless
adapters, etc. These devices must conform to the PCIE M.2 specifications
(fromerly known as NGFF).

Perhaps reach out and ask.

 

[Konceptz]

Ubiquiti USG Gateway
Ubiquiti 8 port POE switch 150watt
Ryzen revision or i7-8700K
32gb of DDR4
New video card if I go with Ryzen
512gb 960 Pro

 

[StrayKAT]

Perhaps reach out and ask.

Hehe.. Well, I reached out to you

On another note, I'm surprised that my HDD isn't so bad on it's own. I think I'll be fine once I get a cache installed. The first install boot up was painfully slow, but the rest haven't been.

 

[EarthDog]

Reach out to the COMPANY.. who would hopefully know it better than their obviously jenky specs and manual........

 

[StrayKAT]

Reach out to the COMPANY.. who would hopefully know it better than their obviously jenky specs and manual........

Ah.. I might, if I ran into issues. Like I said, I have a 256gb nvme. And a sata 850evo. They weren't the same. Even though the nvme was a shitty WD model, it was still better.

 

[EarthDog]

Or, just use cache and HDD... your choice, but..... seems silly to me to waste the NVMe drive caching a HDD....

 

[cucker tarlson]

cache rules everything around me

 

[StrayKAT]

Or, just use cache and HDD... your choice, but..... seems silly to me to waste the NVMe drive caching a HDD....

I didn't. It was an OS drive. IRST doesn't even recognize the nvme at all.

I'm getting a little exhausted with people telling me not to buy Optane though. It's perfect for my uses. When I first built the machine, I was also convinced to get that Evo...which was a terrible choice. SSD space sucks balls.

 

[EarthDog]

cache rules everything around me

CREAM..get the money, dolla dolla bills ...ya'll.


@ Stray, enjoy your Optane.

 

[StrayKAT]

CREAM..get the money, dolla dolla bills ...ya'll.


@ Stray, enjoy your Optane.

Heh song has been stuck in my head.. as I went to cook some breakfast.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Optane is fast as hell but still only 32GB for a hefty price. Caching the HDD with an SSD is still an option for those running +2 SSDs and can't be done on nvme (I figure that's cause it needs to be connected via Intel's sata pch as well as the hdd it's caching to work). Like, I said, this options works out best as an extra feature for those who have a couple ssds and a hdd in their system already.

But if you wanna K.I.S.S. then a 5/8/10TB HDD with optane is a nice and clean solution.

 

[xkm1948]

wish list, hmm, a 1080Ti maybe. Or an X299/X399 platform

 

[StrayKAT]

Optane is fast as hell but still only 32GB for a hefty price. Caching the HDD with an SSD is still an option for those running +2 SSDs and can't be done on nvme (I figure that's cause it needs to be connected via Intel's sata pch as well as the hdd it's caching to work). Like, I said, this options works out best as an extra feature for those who have a couple ssds and a hdd in their system already.

But if you wanna K.I.S.S. then a 5/8/10TB HDD with optane is a nice and clean solution.

Thanks..

And @EarthDog, I didn't mean to direct that frustration at you. Just speaking against general consensus and whatnot. I suppose you could say PC enthusiasts think more about performance and recommend hot rods and ricers. But I really just want a truck. Maybe a 454 SS.

 

[hat]

Within the realm of feasibility here...

i5 8400, with a 16GB kit of DDR4 2666 and a cheaper board with at least 2 pci-e x16 slots, and hopefully some supplemental power connection for pci-e power. New power supply to go along with that.

 

[Ahhzz]

*sigh* just hoping the box lasts another couple of years... can't manage it short term

 

[Morgoth]

a Intel Xeon phi Co processor , tough sad thing is luxion keyshot doest support this
a GTX 1080 Ti cus im quiting on amd!

right now im happy with my workstation only grapics card is way underpowered...