Whats your favourite Linux Distro?

[Jarmer]

I'm running openSUSE Tumbleweed and have been extremely happy for several years now. Before this I was distrohopping around and just didn't feel at home. Tumbleweed is a rolling release but in my experience strikes the perfect balance of cutting edge up to date releases with stability and thorough testing.

One thing that was an absolute game changer for me was the btrfs file system. I had no idea updates / backups / rollbacks could ever be this wonderfully simple! It's been so dramatic for me I will never use another OS of any kind that doesn't have a similar system.

I really love doing all updates in the terminal with two simple commands and watching what's happening as it goes (instead of just a spinny wheel for instance). I also have made good use of the yast tool and love the power it provides.

I think the only complaint I could possibly have is that sometimes the packman repo (for codecs) gets out of sync with the official repos and causes lots of problems with updates. In these cases though the solution is simple: just wait a week or two. It always gets back in sync.

Overall it's an absolutely wonderful distro for those looking to be on a rolling release system.

 

[unwind-protect]

Howdy

Shame what happened with Anandtech

I thought the Anandtech forums will stay open.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Why unstable branch though? Stable/current seems up to date enough (to me)?

Needed up to date hyprland packages...

Tried mixing stable and unstable... it invites all kinds of bugs which I couldnt find solutions / answers. Thats why I appreciate Gentoo since I can mix packages with no issues

 

[Timbaloo]

Needed up to date hyprland packages...

Tried mixing stable and unstable... it invites all kinds of bugs which I couldnt find solutions / answers. Thats why I appreciate Gentoo since I can mix packages with no issues

I could have guessed

Did you use the hyprland flake? Because that I guess is the way to go in such a case.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

I could have guessed

Did you use the hyprland flake? Because that I guess is the way to go in such a case.

yep I have

there are tiny details which I couldnt find answer on nixos.. Like I couldnt enable or no taskbar indicator on qemu-kvm. Its kinda big deal because I dont know if kvm still runing until I launch it again...

but sometimes also which I will have a systemd bug on an update.... or some bug pops up on some packages I use...

Its kinda annoying tbh....

 

[Timbaloo]

yep I have

there are tiny details which I couldnt find answer on nixos.. Like I couldnt enable or no taskbar indicator on qemu-kvm. Its kinda big deal because I dont know if kvm still runing until I launch it again...

but sometimes also which I will have a systemd bug on an update.... or some bug pops up on some packages I use...

Its kinda annoying tbh....

Hmmm, I'm still committed to go full Nixos in a while (not during summer that is ).

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Hmmm, I'm still committed to go full Nixos in a while (not during summer that is ).

just a piece of advice though, you need a bigger storage space compared to other distros.

on my experience, just a nixos-hyprland, 20gb is not enough.. but other distros, 10gb is more than enough

nixos is filling up its nix/store partition with shitload amount of packages

 

[P4-630]

Using Chrome OS.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

just a piece of advice though, you need a bigger storage space compared to other distros.

on my experience, just a nixos-hyprland, 20gb is not enough.. but other distros, 10gb is more than enough

nixos is filling up its nix/store partition with shitload amount of packages

Clear Linux requires 20 GB. You can't install it on drives smaller than 20 GB.
Regarding NixOS, it asks more storage space. And also extra time for applying all the updates if you use the up-to-date version of NixOS. (nixos-unstable)

This can make it unsuitable for slow hardware or people who value time-efficiency of their OS.
I would say this makes it unsuitable for (most) desktop setups. But it's a minor issue for very powerfull servers.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I am slow to change. In my heart, I think I love Slackware the best even though I haven't really used it in a solid 10-15 years. Maybe its just nostalgia. I learned everything with Slackware. Slackware was my teacher.

At home, I'm currently running Arch (old laptop) and Debian (gaming/htpc box). Im piecing together an old Zen 1 system for the wife to get her feet wet. She still prefers Windows, but I think she would be pretty comfortable in Mint...

I prefer BSD Style init over systemd, likely just my bias/what im used to from when I was much more obsessed. (but learning to get used to systemd)
I like Arch's up to date packages, and really am loving Pacman. Its worlds nicer than the old pkgtools that i used with Slackware.

Also greetings/hello folks. Decided to swim over from the Anandtech forums and find a new home.

Interesting. I use Arch just to have better gaming results with Steam/Proton. Welcome!

 

[Timbaloo]

just a piece of advice though, you need a bigger storage space compared to other distros.

on my experience, just a nixos-hyprland, 20gb is not enough.. but other distros, 10gb is more than enough

nixos is filling up its nix/store partition with shitload amount of packages

Thanks for the advice, but I got that on my watch. As a matter of fact, my / is plenty in size with 110GB already (pacman cache, virtual machine images, ...).

 

[Easy Rhino]

This can make it unsuitable for slow hardware or people who value time-efficiency of their OS.
I would say this makes it unsuitable for (most) desktop setups. But it's a minor issue for very powerfull servers.

Since when? NixOS is preferred since you can easily deploy it on thousands of desktops at once using the exact same config. In fact, that is its main use case. it is not a server OS.

 

[:D:D]

Fedora. While Nvidia on Linux has improved it would be nice to see a few of the Windows API's that are missing added.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Since when? NixOS is preferred since you can easily deploy it on thousands of desktops at once using the exact same config. In fact, that is its main use case. it is not a server OS.

In theory, NixOS is (very) suitable for deployment to large companies on the desktop. In practice, Linux is used by almost no large company on desktops. (Which big company do you know that uses NixOS on desktops?) Windows and macOS are very dominant on corporate desktops, I wouldn't be surprised if 'windows+macOS' have more than 98% market share on desktops used by large companies. It has to do with compatibility with MS Office, Photoshop, AutoCAD, Adobe Illustrator, Cortana, 3ds CATIA (+ spyware/adware) and a few specific windows CRM apps that do not have Linux versions.

You should interpret my comment that way. Companies are not going to suddenly jump over to NixOS because ‘it's better’. In essence, capitalism has nothing to do with what is safer, higher quality, cheaper, more efficient for administration, better reliability and privacy, etc.

I can see the individual switching to Linux sooner than a large company. Linux has for some time now offered almost everything a person needs and it is also user-friendly. NixOS is not exactly the most user-friendly for a novice, and on the hardware most individuals use, updating NixOS-unstable is going to take a lot of time and therefore not be a nice desktop experience.

For the above reasons, I think NixOS is mainly going to be used as a server OS in software/AI/website/biotech/DevOps/microservices/cloud/clothing/monitoring/blockchain companies.
Mozilla are adopting Nix in the release-engineering team to provide reproducible builds.
Some companies in the above domains use NixOS mainly as a server OS, not as a desktop OS.

NixOS is preferred since you can easily deploy it on thousands of desktops at once using the exact same config.

= NixOS is preferred since you can easily deploy it on thousands of servers at once using the exact same config.

 

[Easy Rhino]

In theory, NixOS is (very) suitable for deployment to large companies on the desktop. In practice, Linux is used by almost no large company on desktops. (Which big company do you know that uses NixOS on desktops?) Windows and macOS are very dominant on corporate desktops, I wouldn't be surprised if 'windows+macOS' have more than 98% market share on desktops used by large companies. It has to do with compatibility with MS Office, Photoshop, AutoCAD, Adobe Illustrator, Cortana, 3ds CATIA (+ spyware/adware) and a few specific windows CRM apps that do not have Linux versions.

You should interpret my comment that way. Companies are not going to suddenly jump over to NixOS because ‘it's better’. In essence, capitalism has nothing to do with what is safer, higher quality, cheaper, more efficient for administration, better reliability and privacy, etc.

I can see the individual switching to Linux sooner than a large company. Linux has for some time now offered almost everything a person needs and it is also user-friendly. NixOS is not exactly the most user-friendly for a novice, and on the hardware most individuals use, updating NixOS-unstable is going to take a lot of time and therefore not be a nice desktop experience.

For the above reasons, I think NixOS is mainly going to be used as a server OS in software/AI/website/biotech/DevOps/microservices/cloud/clothing/monitoring/blockchain companies.
Mozilla are adopting Nix in the release-engineering team to provide reproducible builds.
Some companies in the above domains use NixOS mainly as a server OS, not as a desktop OS.



= NixOS is preferred since you can easily deploy it on thousands of servers at once using the exact same config.

You said it was not suitable for desktop setups and I said that it is exactly its use case. Whether or not it is actually used for that is another matter entirely.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

You said it was not suitable for desktop setups and I said that it is exactly its use case. Whether or not it is actually used for that is another matter entirely.

I have since nuanced this so everyone knows what I meant.
NixOS is suitable for corporate desktops (it has some advantages for this use case), for personal desktops it is 'often not' an ideal tool.

I disagree with your view that it would be more suitable for desktop than server.
I believe it is more suitable (percentage-wise) for servers than desktops.

On its website, the developers of NixOS also say very clearly that the operating system is 'perfect' for certain (very popular) server tasks.

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Ubuntu is the most popular server OS in the world.
Can't we find basic elements that make NixOS more suitable than Ubuntu for a server?

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