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Just recently, the rtx1070 which I bought on August 2nd, went lower in price.
From August 2 to Feb 11, it never went below 1949 yuan, yet inflated to 2599 early Sep.

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After 6 months, it's 8$ cheaper
 
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Over here we got the last days/weeks huge GPU price drops & full stocks, esp. for AMD.
Bet resellers where creating artificial scarcity to melk the christmas shoppers. :mad: Let's see if it continues to go down even more.

- cheapest RX 6800 / Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 6800, 16GB GDDR6, HDMI, 3x DP (11305-02-20G) [27.01.2022 = 1.475€ / 11.02.2022 = 1.029€]
- cheapest RX 6800XT / XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT Core Gaming, 16GB GDDR6, HDMI, 3x DP (RX-68XTAQFD9) [20.01.2022 = 1.339€ / 10.02.2022 = 1.139€]
- cheapest RTX 3070 / ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 3070 V2 (LHR), DUAL-RTX3070-8G-V2, 8GB GDDR6, 2x HDMI, 3x DP (90YV0FQD-M0NA00) [13.01.2022 = 1.099€ / 13.02.2022 = 829€]
- cheapest RTX 3080 / Palit GeForce RTX 3080 GamingPro V1 (LHR), 10GB GDDR6X, HDMI, 3x DP (NED3080019IA-132AA) [26.01.2022 = 1.375€ / 13.02.2022 = 1.230€]
 
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If "normal" means pre-COVID-19 pricing, forget it. We are approaching the two year anniversary of this pandemic.

There are two major factors here.

The first is inflation which has skyrocketed massively in the past year.

The second is supply-demand imbalance. The semiconductor industry can't pump out enough chips to satisfy the marketplace. This will eventually be rectified by increased capacity but it takes over a billion dollars and years to bring a new foundry to production.

I get it. I bought a ghetto Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 550 2GB card in September 2020 for $65, about $14 below the original April 2017 $79 launch price. Today entry-level RTX 3050/RX 6500 GPUs have MSRPs around $250 and end up with street prices at $400+.

There is no chance that a $250 MSRP card is going to end up at $65-70.

My guess is that the era of the sub $100 GPU is deader than dead.

If you want to play videogames on new hardware on a budget, go find a Nintendo Switch OLED.
 
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In all likelihood, probably never.
Remember the iPhone X and its "insane" $999 MSRP?
What happened after that? Phone prices went up.

Since people are willing to buy GPUs at higher prices, corporations will keep prices that way, because that means more money.
 

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Oh yeah, I see 3080 has dropped 600元 (95$)

And I was thinking about Gigabyte Waterforce. its price is same as the air-cooled cards, but it can save me a water block ($100). However I discovered that the vrams are not covered by water, with pipes instead. Not sure if that is what I want.
I'd definitely consider Gigabyte Waterforce if it had the regular block.

So we're down to 1.65x msrp from 1.8x

 

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Here's my prediction based on 3dCenter triweekly report.
100% MSRP at either mid April, late July or early June 2024
If it keeps dropping like the last three weeks, it's April. If it drops like the 8% in 3 weeks, then mid summer. It makes sense, because Lovelace will arrive in Q3~4 this year, so they want to sell Ampere at msrp before the launch:


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3dCenter report for Feb 13 -> News des 12./13. Februar 2022 | 3DCenter.org

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Prices will probably drop when the Nvidia RTX4xxx cards are released...... :roll:
 

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Prices will never return. Now that companies know they can get away with higher prices, they won't go back. The next cycle will not have MSRPs.....
At this rate I'd rather have an older bnib card than an overpriced (ab)used card.
 

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I sure would feel a lot more comfy abusing mine if there were more around lol.. up saying those words and everything is available for purchase in my home town.. 2000 bucks plus tax for a 3080 Ti.. damn.. 2150 for a Gigabyte one lol.. crazy days.. better than 3500 I guess.
 

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I hope Alchemist does compete with 3070's directly if/when the drivers get sorted out. This should help some unless AIB's do what everyone else is doing .....

I sure would feel a lot more comfy abusing mine if there were more around lol.. up saying those words and everything is available for purchase in my home town.. 2000 bucks plus tax for a 3080 Ti.. damn.. 2150 for a Gigabyte one lol.. crazy days.. better than 3500 I guess.
this is why im reluctant to install my cheapo block on the 2060 KO
 
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Asus is now selling the ASUS TUF-RX6800-O16G-GAMING directly on eBay for 1.029€. Best price, but still around 400 bucks over MSRP.
Didn't know they have an eShop, lol.

Guess it will get better towards summer. Production & availability increases, demand due to summer activity (holiday trips, outside activity, partying, getting wasted & laid, etc.) decreases.
And towards christmas time they likely will raise the prices again. Because they saw they can get away with it. :rolleyes:
 

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New report from 3DCenter:

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But here are covid cases in Korea, if this thing hits China or Taiwan, we may have manufacturing shortage:

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I doubt if today's report will be 16% price decease.
Korea reached over 16 million cases, 4.4 million new in last three weeks. 31% of their total population.
Taiwan also getting thousand cases everyday:

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Hello everyone,

So I am in the process of building a new system and I am looking to buy a new gpu as part as my new build but gpu prices right now are insane. I was thinking of getting an rtx 2070 used but the cheapest I have seen one on the used marked was still over $500.

I probably won't have all of my parts until late February so do you guys think that gpu prices will be better by then?

Thanks.
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I agree with ThrashZone, the days of cheap gaming GPU's are gone for good. LOL, I remember when I thought $300 was a lot for an ATI 9800xt. I never figured Nvidia Ti cards would be selling for more than twice what my 1080ti retailed for.
 
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So RTX 3080 is down to $850. To all the ones that paid the inflated prices, I hope you're happy with your purchases
 

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When Mining goes bust and inflation has been stopped...

So RTX 3080 is down to $850. To all the ones that paid the inflated prices, I hope you're happy with your purchases
Which even at 850 its still inflated
 

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based on my own tracking, this time price decrease will be around 6% again:
although yuan-usd exchange rate changed dramatically in last 3 weeks, so 114% could be in fact 110%
anyway, gpu went down like the last report.
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At home of TMSC, covid in Taiwan went from 1000 daily cases to 36000 per day over the last three weeks.
This will affect silicon wafer supply for AMD, Apple, and nVidia....

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Short answer: never. "Normal" never existed.
 
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