Why I don't buy from Newegg anymore...

[Gmr_Chick]

Yep, as of midnight last night, all of them are closed.

Good riddance, I say! Seems like everytime I'd go in there with my dad, there was a huge line at the customer service desk -- people looking to exchange things because they turned out to be broken. And don't even get me started on their PC component section... Couldn't believe it, nearly every mobo they had had a "reduced price - customer return" label on it

 

[trickson]

Good riddance, I say! Seems like everytime I'd go in there with my dad, there was a huge line at the customer service desk -- people looking to exchange things because they turned out to be broken. And don't even get me started on their PC component section... Couldn't believe it, nearly every mobo they had had a "reduced price - customer return" label on it

I know right!
But I did manage to get some really good stuff. I stayed away from there computer department there was nothing there at all any way.

 

[Mr Bill]

And now I don't buy from Fry's any more. Who still has genuine deals?

After nearly 36 years in business as the one-stop-shop and online resource for high-tech professionals across nine states and 31 stores, Fry’s Electronics, Inc. (“Fry’s” or “Company”), has made the difficult decision to shut down its operations and close its business permanently as a result of changes in the retail industry and the challenges posed by the Covid-19 pandemic. The Company will implement the shut down through an orderly wind down process that it believes will be in the best interests of the Company, its creditors, and other stakeholders.



The Company ceased regular operations and began the wind-down process on February 24, 2021. It is hoped that undertaking the wind-down through this orderly process will reduce costs, avoid additional liabilities, minimize the impact on our customers, vendors, landlords and associates, and maximize the value of the Company’s assets for its creditors and other stakeholders.

 

[kapone32]

After nearly 36 years in business as the one-stop-shop and online resource for high-tech professionals across nine states and 31 stores, Fry’s Electronics, Inc. (“Fry’s” or “Company”), has made the difficult decision to shut down its operations and close its business permanently as a result of changes in the retail industry and the challenges posed by the Covid-19 pandemic. The Company will implement the shut down through an orderly wind down process that it believes will be in the best interests of the Company, its creditors, and other stakeholders.



The Company ceased regular operations and began the wind-down process on February 24, 2021. It is hoped that undertaking the wind-down through this orderly process will reduce costs, avoid additional liabilities, minimize the impact on our customers, vendors, landlords and associates, and maximize the value of the Company’s assets for its creditors and other stakeholders.

This is a sad example as to why Free Trade agreements have not worked for the masses. Even though people would say that Amazon, Newegg and the whole internet mail order business were contributing to this it was more the loss of jobs (especially at the bottom of the market) in manufacturing and well paying jobs. Before free trade employment numbers in terms of aggregate hourly wage were on the rise, they have since stagnated. It took a Mcdonalds in a high wage community to argue for $15 an hour and it is now a national initiative. We had been buoyed by the post war economy and enough of us had died to make socialist themed initiatives palatable if not welcome. So by the 80s, even though the Greed coefficient had grown tremendously laws still protected the masses. Then free trade agreements were signed and in Canada Royal Bank (one of the biggest banks in the world) bought Royal Trust (One of the largest insurance companies in Canada) After 3 months 5000 high paying careers were gone. You see in America there were no longer any laws preventing banks from selling insurance and insurance companies from selling mortgages. As a result of free trade our companies were forced to adopt American corporate policy. The problem with that is the Government in power in the States was all about De-regulation so they turned a blind eye as hedge fund managers wreaked havoc on the economy through diabolical greed plays. Indeed it became the in thing and as places like Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania waned while places like Manhattan, Miami and San Francisco flourished. It got so bad in Canada that our Government opened our residential housing market to China. The issue with that is there are about 33+ million people living in Canada and 96% of the population lives in 4 cities. Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary and Montreal. Meanwhile Canada is bigger than the United States in terms of land mass. There are not enough housing units (even though they build a new Condo in Toronto about every 3 months) for the people that were already living here and we have openly supported immigration since the 70s. The issue stems from China's buy foreign initiative. Even after the people of Toronto and Vancouver got a ban (if ever so temporary) on Chinese buyers the Chinese government never stopped pumping those commercials. It has led to something that will be a sad reality in a few years time the methane time bombs that are in a lot of these Condos in downtown Toronto. These new Condo units can be up to 70% empty with 80% of the ownership living in China. They become Air B&B and other of those type of services staples. The issue is that not everybody knows about cleanliness. As a result there are plenty of units with human feces breaking down in the toilets. In a lot of these cases the owner never has a clue either as they live on the other side of the planet and you cannot (legally) put cameras in private rental spaces. Frys's is just the latest example of NCIX and Tiger Direct.

 

[P4-630]

Never bought something from newegg...

 

[Jetster]

Anyone use Tiger Direct anymore?

 

[Bill_Bright]

We need to remember that the shutdowns are for a reason.

Yes, and sadly, for a reason that didn't need to happen - or at least didn't need to be so massive. The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of the world's COVID-19 cases and 20% of the deaths caused by COVID-19. It is disgraceful.

 

[kapone32]

Anyone use Tiger Direct anymore?

I can't even buy from them in Canada. The last thing I bought was a 1700x.

 

[user112]

I try to avoid using newegg whenever possible because of the trash return policy they have. basicly if the item is deffective and you want a refund you they charge you for the return shipping and a restocking fee. yet if you want a replacement it's all free. though I wouldn't mind a restocking fee as much if they capped it at like $10 or the shipping cost if they had a closer return center.

 

[trparky]

Contactless is becoming more common, but yes, for whatever reason North America was slow to adopt it.

Yeah, contactless payment is definitely slow to be adopted in the US. I, myself, try and use ApplePay as much as I can due to how it's generally much more secure than using your actual card.

But that is a common practice. Amazon and Walmart.com use 3rd party sellers all the time. But just like Newegg, that does not mean you have to buy from them. When I research parts at any of those (or other) sites I always filter out the 3rd party sellers by selecting Amazon, Newegg, or Walmart only. Piece of cake.

But the problem is that with Amazon, the third-party seller stuff isn't separated from the stuff that Amazon.com itself sells. All of the products are heaped into the same inventory systems so if a third-party seller decides to be an asshole and cheap out by bringing in counterfeit items, the counterfeits are lumped in with the first-party product pool and it's well known that this is the case and the real scummy third-party sellers purposely do that.

 

[Space Lynx]

Good riddance, I say! Seems like everytime I'd go in there with my dad, there was a huge line at the customer service desk -- people looking to exchange things because they turned out to be broken. And don't even get me started on their PC component section... Couldn't believe it, nearly every mobo they had had a "reduced price - customer return" label on it

Yep, I bought a "brand new" corsair case from Fry's online two summers ago, it arrived with a ryzen sticker already on it and you could tell it had already been used... really ticked me off. I had to call them 5x to get a return setup for refund as they gave me the run around. Good riddance indeed. I won't miss Fry's, only used them twice. Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Amazon, and Costco are the only four major stores I use anymore. I actually do most of my shopping on wal-mart website these days, they have super fast free shipping, just have to always remember to check the box that says "shipped and sold by walmart" I really hope they pass more laws someday stating all these companies are responsible for their third party sellers whether or not its fulfilled by them, its absolute nonsense. I'm smart enough to avoid the third party sellers, but old people like my Dad just don't get the concept of third party seller, he thinks its all Amazon... they prey on the old and uneducated, its quite sad imo.

 

[Aht0s]

Yep, I bought a "brand new" corsair case from Fry's online two summers ago, it arrived with a ryzen sticker already on it and you could tell it had already been used... really ticked me off. I had to call them 5x to get a return setup for refund as they gave me the run around. Good riddance indeed. I won't miss Fry's, only used them twice. Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Amazon, and Costco are the only four major stores I use anymore. I actually do most of my shopping on wal-mart website these days, they have super fast free shipping, just have to always remember to check the box that says "shipped and sold by walmart" I really hope they pass more laws someday stating all these companies are responsible for their third party sellers whether or not its fulfilled by them, its absolute nonsense. I'm smart enough to avoid the third party sellers, but old people like my Dad just don't get the concept of third party seller, he thinks its all Amazon... they prey on the old and uneducated, its quite sad imo.

To be honest, I feel like they make it hard to distinguish between a third-party seller and their own products. I shouldn't have to spend time to make sure I am buying from Amazon or whatever e-online company I am buying from. Just last week bought a few things from Best Buy and one products was from a reseller, good thing the reseller was in my country or I would have cancel it. I use an online clothing and when you buy from a reseller, they redirect you to a different site. To me that make sense, I know right away what I should expect. I know is only a few second to look but it should be easy to identify maybe I am getting old and don't have the same patient as before. Like you said it is not right to prey on people that are not aware on how these resellers really work.

 

[metalfiber]

Anyone use Tiger Direct anymore?

The regular Tiger Direct is no more. Tiger Direct Business is still around. I don't know if the two merged but they used to be different....like Newegg and Newegg Business.

 

[John Naylor]

Amazon has become extremely problematic since they started using their own (1099) delivery services. I work from home, have been for 30 years get up to 5 - 7 deliveries per week.

1. We have a sign above the doorbell that says "Ring the damn bell, we're home" ... has yet to happen.
2. We have a 400' driveway, the like to leave packages on the side of the road or in mail box.
3. We had Amazon mark our account permanently, they are supposed to call when getting 'close', we will walk out to meet them at end of driveway if need be (snow, scared to drive down who knows). Hes yet to happen,
4. When rebuilding the engine on Xterra, ordered a radiator and timing chain, water pump kit from them. I tracked the package on the rad, said it was "delivered to residence" .. it wasn't. Walked to end of driveway, not there. When wife came home, I had texted her, she saw a large flat box about 75' down the road ... stopped grabbed empty box, found radiatior about 40 feet back in the woods. two days later, the timing belt kit came, was left leaning on mailbox post along side road.
5. My son's $600 GFX card never arrived
6. Bought a matching XMas woman and doggie sweaters set ... dog came, woman's didn't, tracking said damaged ... Called on 23rd, said wasn't damaged, will be there tomorrow... said same thing next 6 days
7. Son ordered some D&D tye games for ther "nerdfest" every other week, 6 boxes (game and expansion packs) .. tracking said "Resident took package" ... I'm the resident, nothing came that day. They took picture ... wasn't my house.

The only time I actually saw a truck was when dog was out ... dog barked, My desk is right above front door / driveway, saw car, went out and got package. Ask is she was 'regular driver' and she said they have no regular drivers ... works like uber .... could be anybody.

 

[Space Lynx]

Amazon has become extremely problematic since they started using their own (1099) delivery services. I work from home, have been for 30 years get up to 5 - 7 deliveries per week.

1. We have a sign above the doorbell that says "Ring the damn bell, we're home" ... has yet to happen.
2. We have a 400' driveway, the like to leave packages on the side of the road or in mail box.
3. We had Amazon mark our account permanently, they are supposed to call when getting 'close', we will walk out to meet them at end of driveway if need be (snow, scared to drive down who knows). Hes yet to happen,
4. When rebuilding the engine on Xterra, ordered a radiator and timing chain, water pump kit from them. I tracked the package on the rad, said it was "delivered to residence" .. it wasn't. Walked to end of driveway, not there. When wife came home, I had texted her, she saw a large flat box about 75' down the road ... stopped grabbed empty box, found radiatior about 40 feet back in the woods. two days later, the timing belt kit came, was left leaning on mailbox post along side road.
5. My son's $600 GFX card never arrived
6. Bought a matching XMas woman and doggie sweaters set ... dog came, woman's didn't, tracking said damaged ... Called on 23rd, said wasn't damaged, will be there tomorrow... said same thing next 6 days
7. Son ordered some D&D tye games for ther "nerdfest" every other week, 6 boxes (game and expansion packs) .. tracking said "Resident took package" ... I'm the resident, nothing came that day. They took picture ... wasn't my house.

The only time I actually saw a truck was when dog was out ... dog barked, My desk is right above front door / driveway, saw car, went out and got package. Ask is she was 'regular driver' and she said they have no regular drivers ... works like uber .... could be anybody.

I have never had a single issue with deliveries. I think it just depends where you live and who your drivers are. If I were in your situation I think I would just deliver it to an "Amazon Locker" and go pick it up when its ready.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

COVI-19 and China

More like the west's constant inability to deal with pandemics, see 2009 H1N1 pandemic

 

[jboydgolfer]

Amazon has become extremely problematic since they started using their own (1099) delivery services.

they have left thousands of dollars of deliveries on the side of the road in front of my house, then marked the delivery 'handed directly to resident' attaching a picture of a box, laying on the side of the road (ive noticed they are unwilling to document their use of the mailbox though, knowing it is a federal crime to use it for business other than mail). they know their service is garbage, but theyre saving money hand over fist not spending those funds on UPS/USPS/FEDEX , & my guess is yet again, profits outweigh costs to customer. its no different than outsourcing customer support. despite how angry people will get, explaining a detailed problem, to someone who doesnt speak your language natively CAN be like communicating to a dolphin. this is another cost saving measure for shareholders, & the customer pays the price.