Windows 11 General Discussion

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I haven't seen a lot of reasons to switch to 11 personally
More security is not something I need or care about

On my q9550 system "which I sold recently" 11 worked just fine leapfrogging over all 11 requirements same as all my other systems with 11
So same as they did on 10/ linux/ 8/ 7/ vista which it was it's born on date of q9550 system guess 8-8.1 was the most pitiful which 11's start menu reminds me of it's so idiotic

 

[theFOoL]

Yes I agree. I'm on WIN10 and plan on staying until something magical happens. I have MINT installed as well as the driver's for my webcam is far better than the WiN Drivers

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

On my latest Ryzen build, Windows 10 feels more like a TP of Windows 11!

Windows 11 feels more like how Windows 10 should have been.

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

windows 11 dev no longer works on vmware workstation tried all kinds of thing and it refuses to update

Microsoft probably maid it wares it won't accept the virtual TPM

my guess is in the future Microsoft will make Windows 11 not accept the CPU virtual TPM so we will have to get physical TPM's the jerks

 

[theFOoL]

May I ask how Rufus is allowed to do the removal of tpm or even windows go on 11? Just curious

 

[chrcoluk]

Nope, it's been there since the Beta.

Depending on the setting, that still happens.

Which setting controls the behaviour?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Which setting controls the behaviour?

That's a complicated list.

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

kept trying to update and it won't update Microbucks does not want you to use virtual machines anymore

I
just tried Asus support you can't even get through it's going to be hard to get a TPM when all this goes down I'm going to Linux mint screw micro backs

 

[eidairaman1]

On my latest Ryzen build, Windows 10 feels more like a TP of Windows 11!

Windows 11 feels more like how Windows 10 should have been.

Except the gui which should of been W7 style.

 

[windwhirl]

windows 11 dev no longer works on vmware workstation tried all kinds of thing and it refuses to update

Microsoft probably maid it wares it won't accept the virtual TPM

my guess is in the future Microsoft will make Windows 11 not accept the CPU virtual TPM so we will have to get physical TPM's the jerks

kept trying to update and it won't update Microbucks does not want you to use virtual machines anymore

I
just tried Asus support you can't even get through it's going to be hard to get a TPM when all this goes down I'm going to Linux mint screw micro backs

Check that article, it's rather recent (April 5 2022)

https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/86207

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

I fixed the problem with win 11 dev in VMware what I did is deleted the virtual machines then started all over again and it worked my guess is I had too many versions it was updating from

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

found something new Microsoft changed the start menu in the bottom part they disabled it because so many people complained about it I swear people are so scared that Microsoft is going to tell them to change their underwear

 

[windwhirl]

the bottom part they disabled it

What bottom part? The recommended area?

 

[plat]

I ran Windows 11 when it first came out, like at the end of June 2021 with a bootleg ISO. It ran incredibly well for a new operating system, very stable from the beginning. After six months, I started to dislike it. I can't say why specifically, just became a general dislike. If it had lived up to just half of the hype, I guess I would have kept it as a daily driver.

I do run Windows 11 on a separate drive and install that maybe once a month to let it update itself so I can see if anything is interesting. So far--not. There is rumor that anyone running 11 on "unsupported hardware" may eventually see a watermark in the lower right side of the screen. Right now, this "feature" is in the Beta Insiders, might be working its way to the release channel sometime. I've used Winaero's Universal Watermark Disabler for Insider builds but not sure if it'll work for this one. Worth a try, definitely.

Looking forward to Windows 12. They say every other OS is the good one.

 

[lexluthermiester]

found something new Microsoft changed the start menu in the bottom part they disabled it because so many people complained about it I swear people are so scared that Microsoft is going to tell them to change their underwear

Can you show us a screen shot?

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

What bottom part? The recommended area?

yes it won't do anything

Can you show us a screen shot?

if you can remind me how it's been a long time sence I did it

 

[lexluthermiester]

if you can remind me how it's been a long time sence I did it

Shift+PrintScreen. Open Paint(or your favorite image editor) and paste, then save. Attach that image here.

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

ok thank you

ok thank you

funny all the sudden it started working weird lol

before all the settings in personalization, start was all greyed out now there not lol

now it works

I think I know what happened I have AVG Driver updater on this system and it was set to automatically update in the background it must of updated a driver I changed the setting so it will only let me know if there is a driver update so I can update manually.

I checked Glasswire and found that there was a download of an update to c:\windows\systemapps\microsoft.windows.startmenuexperiencehost_cw5n1h2txyewy\startmenuexperiencehost.exe and a lot of updates to visual studio 2022 maybe it was fixed by Microsoft

ok thank you


funny all the sudden it started working weird lol

before all the settings in personalization, start was all greyed out now there not lol

now it works

I think I know what happened I have AVG Driver updater on this system and it was set to automatically update in the background it must of updated a driver I changed the setting so it will only let me know if there is a driver update so I can update manually.

I checked Glasswire and found that there was a download of an update to c:\windows\systemapps\microsoft.windows.startmenuexperiencehost_cw5n1h2txyewy\startmenuexperiencehost.exe and a lot of updates to visual studio 2022 maybe it was fixed by Microsoft

there was a Microsoft problem report in there too that connected to Microsoft that's why I think they fixed it. Glasswire is a good program to have

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Easiest is open snipping tool outline an area and open a reply here and paste.
No naming/ paint..
Or print screen key and paste here works to but will be full screen size.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I checked Glasswire and found that there was a download of an update to c:\windows\systemapps\microsoft.windows.startmenuexperiencehost_cw5n1h2txyewy\startmenuexperiencehost.exe and a lot of updates to visual studio 2022 maybe it was fixed by Microsoft

Very likely. Gonna have to take their word on it though as I personally disable the builtin start menu. I use and much prefer Open Shell.

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

i use a app called startallback if i want to change anything it's got a ton of settings for taskbar, start menu, windows explorer you can even make windows 11 look like xp, 7, 8, 10 or 11 anything you want
here is a video on it

 

[lexluthermiester]

i use a app called startallback if i want to change anything it's got a ton of settings for taskbar, start menu, windows explorer you can even make windows 11 look like xp, 7, 8, 10 or 11 anything you want
here is a video on it

I've tried it. It's nice but it doesn't have the option to use a classic start menu like OpenShell does, see my screenshot above. For me, that's a BIG deal-breaker. All the extra and handy options StartAllBack offers are great but the whole experience is ruined by a lack of the classic menu option. I have never liked the XP/Vista/7/10 menu's. Simple is good, simple is best. StartAllBack fails at that.

 

[R-T-B]

I use ExplorerPatcher to get the old Taskbar. I should probably combine it with Openshell but have not bothered yet.

 

[wilburman]

Looks like it's 2022 and still, nobody has any understanding on how operating systems deal with memory management. That RAM """saved""" from hiding Teams brings you 0 benefit. Nuking Windows features and apps for the sake of "saving" memory is as much snake oil as running CleanMem, Mem Reduct or some other garbage program - I learned this from experience. Operating systems like Windows know how to allocate memory to the relevant tasks, and how to take memory away from unneeded background tasks, no matter if you're gaming or running an intensive all-core workload. Idle memory usage means nothing. If anything, I wish I could force Windows to use more of my RAM at idle to jumpstart programs much quicker than even from my PCIe 4 NVMe. Unused RAM is wasted RAM.


Not interested. Windows 11 is the first iteration of Windows to finally allow me to ditch all third party apps that change the start menu. Disliked 10's start menu, loving 11's. Burn me on the stake, don't care.

Those removed features on the new taskbar? Don't care for them. Never even heard of drag and dropping onto the taskbar until people started complaining, I always used alt tab drop.

Need more computer drivers like this guy. Need more human race like this kind XD

 

[plastiscɧ]

Yesterday during the webcast about Windows 11 and the new task manager there was something to smile about. Because Claton Hendricks himself works with Windows 11 and a non-supported CPU.
You can see the list of CPUs that support Windows 11 here: Intel, AMD, Qualcomm. Microsoft itself has created a possibility that Windows 11 can still be installed when TPM 2.0 and SecureBoot are enabled. The CPU is then "irrelevant". Then as an upgrade as an in-place upgrade from an ISO. Or as a new installation. You then get a pop-up window saying that it is not recommended to install Windows 11, but this version is still supported.

So even the Microsoft employees take it easy and use Windows 11 even on non-supported hardware. One can assume that Microsoft's specifications will not change with Windows 11 22H2.