Windows 11 General Discussion

freeagent · Oct 10, 2022

Runs great! Nothing bad to say about it. It feels fantastic. I dual booted with 10 for a few months, I found I spent much more time running 11.

The only thing I don't like about it, is that you need to be connected to immediately authenticate and login. I dislike using a PIN.

Mr McC · Oct 10, 2022

freeagent said:
Runs great! Nothing bad to say about it. It feels fantastic. I dual booted with 10 for a few months, I found I spent much more time running 11.

The only thing I don't like about it, is that you need to be connected to immediately authenticate and login. I dislike using a PIN.

I used Rufus to do away with the need for a Microsoft account when installing. They will probably find a way to close this loophole and force it on us in the near future, but at the minute it is working fine with a local account.

lexluthermiester · Oct 10, 2022

freeagent said:
The only thing I don't like about it, is that you need to be connected to immediately authenticate and login. I dislike using a PIN.

This happened because you used a microsoft account instead of creating a local account. If you're on the Home version that can be tricky, but on Pro it's as simple as not connecting to the internet during setup. I can walk you through setting up a local account on your current installation if it annoys you too much.

P4-630 · Oct 10, 2022

Mr McC said:
I used Rufus to do away with the need for a Microsoft account when installing. They will probably find a way to close this loophole and force it on us in the near future, but at the minute it is working fine with a local account.

I used "Shift + F10" during installation when the network screen came up, command prompt popped up and typed “oobe\bypassnro”, the PC restarted and was at the screen to create a local account...

ThrashZone · Oct 10, 2022

freeagent said:
Runs great! Nothing bad to say about it. It feels fantastic. I dual booted with 10 for a few months, I found I spent much more time running 11.

The only thing I don't like about it, is that you need to be connected to immediately authenticate and login. I dislike using a PIN.

Hi,
This was made for you seeing you want to use ms apps I posted it on page 138

Add Microsoft account to Local account for Hybrid account in Windows 11

A Microsoft account (MSA) is a good choice if a user wants to use the same account on multiple devices, or wants to make it easy to use all / any Microsoft services. Setting up a preinstalled Windows 10 on a new device, after a clean install, or creating a new user on existing Windows...

www.elevenforum.com

freeagent · Oct 10, 2022

I thought I had it disconnected. I could be mistaken though... I will live with it for the time being. It feels even more like my Dell laptop now :laugh:

It has a 5700U, this has the X3D, both need a PIN to login, this one boosts about 100MHz higher, and neither can be overclocked

ThrashZone · Oct 10, 2022

Hi,
Yeah pin
Just some thing more to remember lol :kookoo:

Mussels · Oct 11, 2022

theFOoL said:
Hmm... so... this replies to non-hardware also?

LINK

View attachment 264896

I just made a rufus USB of the new ISO, double clicked and updated
No need to enable TPM or anything via this method

regular updates work, but i may need to do offline updates for TPM free major versions i guess

Shrek · Oct 11, 2022

Mussels said:
I just made a rufus USB of the new ISO, double clicked and updated
No need to enable TPM or anything via this method

regular updates work, but i may need to do offline updates for TPM free major versions i guess

On your main machine?

xrobwx71 · Oct 11, 2022

Frick said:
So a question: is it possible to go back to Win10 if I install Win11? I'm tempted to try it just because, but if I dislike it I'd want to be able to go back.

Create a backup image of your Win 10 and use that.

Ahhzz · Oct 11, 2022

Frick said:
So a question: is it possible to go back to Win10 if I install Win11? I'm tempted to try it just because, but if I dislike it I'd want to be able to go back.

Last I saw, M$ gave 30 days to roll back to Windows 10 before they lock you in, altho that number may have changed since.

ThrashZone · Oct 11, 2022

xrobwx71 said:
Create a backup image of your Win 10 and use that.

Hi,
Indeed the only reliable way back is a system image
I would add
Make a system image of 11 before so it to can be retrieved or either can be restored to another ssd and keep both and switch back and forth as you wish with dual boot.

I personally haven't touched 11 in a while I've got way to much going on to bother with it atm

nomdeplume · Oct 11, 2022

Those looking to quickly restore sanity and functionality to their W11 experience should install it without an internet connection and immediately run these two programs.

Winaero

Builtbybel

After you've removed everything you don't want Windows Update to install or change. Move directly into the cycle of updates and rebooting. Then start installing drivers and programs. Personally, something more powerful than the Windows startup manager to remove the large number of extraneous boot time killing processes is a critical final step.

lexluthermiester · Oct 11, 2022

Ahhzz said:
Last I saw, M$ gave 30 days to roll back to Windows 10 before they lock you in, altho that number may have changed since.

I think it's still 30 days.

nomdeplume said:
Those looking to quickly restore sanity and functionality to their W11 experience should install it without an internet connection and immediately run these two programs.

Winaero

Builtbybel

After you've removed everything you don't want Windows Update to install or change. Move directly into the cycle of updates and rebooting. Then start installing drivers and programs. Personally, something more powerful than the Windows startup manager to remove the large number of extraneous boot time killing processes is a critical final step.

Both of those are excellent. I personally prefer WinAeroTweaker as it is very easy to use!

erpguy53 · Oct 12, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
I think it's still 30 days.

Both of those are excellent. I personally prefer WinAeroTweaker as it is very easy to use!

same here with Winaero Tweaker though I use the "portable" version of it (there's a choice in the setup to either install it normally or install it as "portable")

use the latest version of Winaero Tweaker (do not use outdated or old versions of this) as the 1.40 version is fully compatible with Win11 22H2

Shrek · Oct 12, 2022

Can someone explain to me the core changes from 10 to 11, for externally they look pretty much the same.

ThrashZone · Oct 12, 2022

Shrek said:
Can someone explain to me the core changes from 10 to 11, for externally they look pretty much the same.

Hi,
Besides the new security requirements
iMac taste
Moved some settings.
Added linux stuff
Renamed/ enabled gadgets
That's bout it.

Oops screwed up context menus :eek:

nomdeplume · Oct 12, 2022

There were further refinements to W10 with noticeable but hardly significant advancements to media capabilities. To borrow one of their internal words, it is more a fluid experience. One on the largest behind the scenes changes was fully accommodating modern protocol and capabilities found in the latest gen consumer processors (6+ core). It is ever so slightly less conservative.

kapone32 · Oct 12, 2022

One of the things about Windows 11 that I don't see is that transferring files from 1 NVME to another is actually faster in Windows 11 vs 10. I found out when I had to move my Epic Games to get to play them. As some you already know that is my biggest gripe about Epic. even though every other Gaming platform allows you to point to the Game and show it as installed.

lexluthermiester · Oct 13, 2022

erpguy53 said:
use the latest version of Winaero Tweaker (do not use outdated or old versions of this) as the 1.40 version is fully compatible with Win11 22H2

This! 1.40 works perfectly with all versions of Windows 11. 1.33 works properly only with versions Pre-22H2.

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Besides the new security requirements
iMac taste
Moved some settings.
Added linux stuff
Renamed/ enabled gadgets
That's bout it.

Oops screwed up context menus

It should be noted that not everyone agrees with this statement. However, I don't want to start an argument so I will just say this: Anyone who thinks anything like the above statement needs to take a closer look.

R-T-B · Oct 13, 2022

better fullscreen handling, AutoHDR support are selling points for me alone.

RJARRRPCGP · Oct 14, 2022

The October patch-Tuesday went well, no CBS file corruption report.

Update: Has anyone been getting the notorious 0x80070643 error code for Defender updates with 11? I can't recall seeing any, but I sure did a lot with 10!

lexluthermiester · Oct 14, 2022

RJARRRPCGP said:
Update: Has anyone been getting the notorious 0x80070643 error code for Defender updates with 11?

I'm not!... :roll:

paulwarden · Oct 15, 2022

unfortunately i tried the update and it has screwed up my ssd somehow i loaded the software adn did everything i was supposed to do but now when i use the drive with the upate on it my system is so laggy and unresponsive plus it may well be on its last legs now have ordered a new drive which is due in the next 6 day or so will try everything again once i have it installed

ThrashZone · Oct 15, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
This! 1.40 works perfectly with all versions of Windows 11. 1.33 works properly only with versions Pre-22H2.

It should be noted that not everyone agrees with this statement. However, I don't want to start an argument so I will just say this: Anyone who thinks anything like the above statement needs to take a closer look.

Hi,
You take a look at 22h2 or what ever september release is called
It's a real bug pip :laugh:

I'm now on 21h2 on my almost fully complaint z490 build only thing left is activating tpm in bios.
May plop 22h2 on it later there's way to many bugs atm.

Not much resemblance in default win-11 anymore so first look at 11 is pretty funny and most didn't live very long :laugh:

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Windows 11 General Discussion

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