Windows 11 General Discussion

eidairaman1 · Jul 4, 2023

Shrek said:
Has this already been covered?

"Windows 11 SSD slowdown bug has been hanging around for months – and people are fed up"

Windows 11 SSD slowdown bug has been hanging around for months – and people are fed up | TechRadar

I never experienced this issue

freeagent · Jul 4, 2023

Still rips for me.. considered going back to 10 again.. meh.. I will probably just stick to 11, it is good. 10 still benches better though.. dammit

Macro Device · Jul 4, 2023

freeagent said:
Still rips for me.. considered going back to 10 again.. meh.. I will probably just stick to 11, it is good. 10 still benches better though.. dammit

I got two computers and one runs W10 and another runs W11. Perfectly balanced.

Maybe you should get an additional SSD just for installing W10 there, these devices are borderline free nowadays anyway.

Just a lazy question about W11: where do I edit the taskbar font size? Clock&date font size more precisely. I want it to be bigger.

freeagent · Jul 4, 2023

Beginner Micro Device said:
Maybe you should get an additional SSD just for installing W10 there, these devices are borderline free nowadays anyway.

I dual booted for about 9 months or so, I found myself using 11 more than 10..

Beginner Micro Device said:
ust a lazy question about W11: where do I edit the taskbar font size? Clock&date font size more precisely. I want it to be bigger.

Display Settings maybe?

Macro Device · Jul 4, 2023

freeagent said:
I dual booted for about 9 months or so, I found myself using 11 more than 10..

Display Settings maybe?

This makes EVERYTHING bigger. I only need to adjust one single segment. Tried googling that, no luck.

freeagent · Jul 4, 2023

Beginner Micro Device said:
This makes EVERYTHING bigger. I only need to adjust one single segment. Tried googling that, no luck.

I use +175 :laugh:

eidairaman1 · Jul 4, 2023

freeagent said:
Still rips for me.. considered going back to 10 again.. meh.. I will probably just stick to 11, it is good. 10 still benches better though.. dammit

Eliminate WUD and it fixes 10 as well lol

P4-630 · Jul 4, 2023

Microsoft is preparing to launch Windows 12 in the fall of 2024, with a wider rollout in 2025,
and it is internally experimenting with several new design ideas, including a new desktop experience with a ‘floating’ taskbar.
Microsoft wants to create a floating effect for the taskbar by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the edges.

Microsoft hints at Windows 12, explores a new floating taskbar design

Microsoft is preparing to launch Windows 12 in the fall of 2024, with a wider rollout in 2025, and it is internally experimenting with several new design ideas, including a new desktop experience with a ‘floating’ taskbar. Microsoft wants to create a floating effect for the taskbar by separating...

www.windowslatest.com

windwhirl · Jul 4, 2023

P4-630 said:
Microsoft wants to create a floating effect for the taskbar by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the edges.

Isn't that whatever MacOS has?

lexluthermiester · Jul 5, 2023

johnspack said:
Anyone try Win11 on a 1st gen ryzen yet? I might as well. Got a legal key I can use... but no proper hardware. So I'll fix it.

Works fine. Make sure you use bypasses, but enjoy.

Shrek said:
Has this already been covered?

"Windows 11 SSD slowdown bug has been hanging around for months – and people are fed up"

Windows 11 SSD slowdown bug has been hanging around for months – and people are fed up | TechRadar

Wasn't that fixed quite a while ago?

eidairaman1 said:
I never experienced this issue

Me neither. Of course, it may have happened but with a good performing system one might not even notice.

3x0 · Jul 5, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
Wasn't that fixed quite a while ago?

Apparently not, it's doing the rounds again.

lexluthermiester · Jul 5, 2023

3x0 said:
Apparently not, it's doing the rounds again.

I'm not seeing it. My SSD's still benchmark right where they should be..

3x0 · Jul 5, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
I'm not seeing it. My SSD's still benchmark right where they should be..

Not all people are affected. My friend has problems on his Zen 4 PCIe gen 4 SSD. Various configs are affected apparently. It's more noticeable when reading/writing small files than big sequential R/W ops.

eidairaman1 · Jul 7, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
Windows 9X did not have Windows Update. Automatic Updates started with XP in the consumer space and it was a constant source of unpleasantness and headache. The recent microsoft shenanigans are only an extension of that.

I do rember running WUD on 98SE, back Then it wasn't intrusive like it is on XP-8.1 (auto updates) and the worst on 10/11 (forced auto updates)

Windows 98 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"Windows 98 was the first edition of Windows to adopt the Windows Driver Model, and introduced features that would become standard in future generations of Windows, such as Disk Cleanup, Windows Update, multi-monitor support, and Internet Connection Sharing."

Bomby569 · Jul 7, 2023

P4-630 said:
Microsoft is preparing to launch Windows 12 in the fall of 2024, with a wider rollout in 2025,
and it is internally experimenting with several new design ideas, including a new desktop experience with a ‘floating’ taskbar.
Microsoft wants to create a floating effect for the taskbar by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the edges.

Microsoft hints at Windows 12, explores a new floating taskbar design

Microsoft is preparing to launch Windows 12 in the fall of 2024, with a wider rollout in 2025, and it is internally experimenting with several new design ideas, including a new desktop experience with a ‘floating’ taskbar. Microsoft wants to create a floating effect for the taskbar by separating...

www.windowslatest.com

just get the damn dark mode to work in a coherent manner in all the OS and drop the dam 3 click menus, instead of the useless visual crap "improvements"

lexluthermiester · Jul 7, 2023

Bomby569 said:
just get the damn dark mode to work in a coherent manner in all the OS

What do you mean? Dark mode currently works perfectly and has since late 2021.

Bomby569 said:
drop the dam 3 click menus

On this we 100% agree. However, WinAeroTweaker to the rescue... Or a few regedits..

Bomby569 · Jul 7, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
What do you mean? Dark mode currently works perfectly and has since late 2021.

There's a lot of stuff that isn't dark mode in the dark mode, i'm sure you noticed it. There was this reddit post that had a long enormous list. Most are legacy stuff but there's also a lot of windows current day tools like the file transfer thing, task manager for example.
There is nothing worst then using dark mode in the dark, you open something and get a bright white whatever you open.

windwhirl · Jul 7, 2023

Bomby569 said:
just get the damn dark mode to work in a coherent manner in all the OS

You could more or less do that... if you could still adjust classic Windows UI elements. Which you can not anymore.

Bomby569 · Jul 7, 2023

windwhirl said:
You could more or less do that... if you could still adjust classic Windows UI elements. Which you can not anymore.

still, not a real dark mode.

R-T-B · Jul 8, 2023

Bomby569 said:
still, not a real dark mode.

You open control panel and it's like getting a full frontal from a lighthouse.

Klemc · Jul 8, 2023

So, what do i do now with my unnecessary Win Ten install (dual boot) ?.. bc i use only Eleven now !

Hachi_Roku256563 · Jul 8, 2023

Just Wondering If anyone Else has had win 10 Enable the TPM? and then Offer Windows 11
I had mine disabled so it wouldn't ask and now Its renabled Get its Possible a CMOS reset Or somthing but I have noticed anything else flip back to default

lexluthermiester · Jul 9, 2023

Bomby569 said:
There's a lot of stuff that isn't dark mode in the dark mode, i'm sure you noticed it. There was this reddit post that had a long enormous list. Most are legacy stuff but there's also a lot of windows current day tools like the file transfer thing, task manager for example.
There is nothing worst then using dark mode in the dark, you open something and get a bright white whatever you open.

Ah, you mean all the legacy components that microsoft is too damned lazy to update? I know what you mean, and I agree, it is VERY irritating!

Klemc · Jul 12, 2023

So, i'm on 2023-2 KB5022845 update now, should i apply the 2023-7 KB5028185 ?

Windows 11 et les MAJs KB5028182 et KB5028185, quoi de neuf ? - GinjFo

Le Patch Tuesday de juillet 2023 donne naissance à deux nouvelles mises à jour cumulatives Windows 11, KB5028182 et KB5028166.

www.ginjfo.com

In French !

P4-630 · Jul 12, 2023

Klemc said:
So, i'm on 2023-2 KB5022845 update now, should i apply the 2023-7 KB5028185 ?

Windows 11 et les MAJs KB5028182 et KB5028185, quoi de neuf ? - GinjFo

Le Patch Tuesday de juillet 2023 donne naissance à deux nouvelles mises à jour cumulatives Windows 11, KB5028182 et KB5028166.

www.ginjfo.com

In French !

Update for windows 11 released yesterday:

July 11, 2023—KB5028185 (OS Build 22621.1992) - Microsoft Support

support.microsoft.com

Or wait a week if you can find issues on the internet with this update..

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July 11, 2023—KB5028185 (OS Build 22621.1992) - Microsoft Support

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