Windows 1903 - just reverted back to 1809

[freeagent]

I have had absolutely zero problems or crashes. I can't really understand anyone's problem with it. My build no. is 18362.116

I'm going to guess once stable overclocks that are no longer as stable as one thought thanks to mitigations..

I kid.

I've been running it since 5/4 and its pretty sweet.

 

[MrGenius]

If they tweak the OS so your CPU performs better, you might need to "restabilize" your OC. Since your OC was only "stable" with less volts and/or higher clocks because your CPU wasn't working as hard. As in clock for clock performance was lower. This is pretty obvious overclocking 101 stuff here. If your CPU's working harder, it will need more volts and/or lower clocks to achieve stability when overclocked. Which doesn't necessarily mean lower performance. You might even come out ahead performance wise with more volts and/or lower clocks. You don't get something for nothing.

Cooling also plays a roll. But I'm considering that a constant.

 

[Valantar]

This is Agile development man, its all the rage these days. You release a lot, and hope it sticks. When it doesn't, you release some more. Amazing 'time to market', much profit

I deal with students indoctrinated into this rather inane development process ideology every spring semester. In a class that focuses on creative interdisciplinary project development. Needless to say, the most gung-ho "agile/scrum" people are usually the ones both most focused on putting out a product, no matter what (leading to worse concepts due to the focus on "making something"), and simultaneously the ones most prone to messing up on the way (as the lack of clear goals combined with the development method leads to sidetracking and projects veering way off course). Fun times for all involved!

If they had learned that garbage from someone at my department, I'd go have a very serious conversation with that person, but (un?)fortunately they're all from different departments.

 

[Chomiq]

I've been on 1903 since 09/04/19 , and it is very stable for me, even though it was probably a "test" build. I have had absolutely zero problems or crashes. I can't really understand anyone's problem with it. My build no. is 18362.116

I've had complete slowdowns of the entire system with everything slowing to a crawl (sound, cursor, apps) on official 1903. I've been running stable builds ever since I've installed 10 and stuck to the corporate update ring. I'm lucky I actually didn't delete the 1809 copy that was created during the update process, since the slowdowns occurred on the third day after install.

 

[Vayra86]

I deal with students indoctrinated into this rather inane development process ideology every spring semester. In a class that focuses on creative interdisciplinary project development. Needless to say, the most gung-ho "agile/scrum" people are usually the ones both most focused on putting out a product, no matter what (leading to worse concepts due to the focus on "making something"), and simultaneously the ones most prone to messing up on the way (as the lack of clear goals combined with the development method leads to sidetracking and projects veering way off course). Fun times for all involved!

If they had learned that garbage from someone at my department, I'd go have a very serious conversation with that person, but (un?)fortunately they're all from different departments.

Its one of those ideologies that relies entirely on people and responsibilities... I see its merit, but in business it gets abused to shove lots of work in too little time up your alley, only to conclude the better half wont ever get done... that is when everything turns to shit and technical debt accumulates already in the first dev cycle.

Ive also experienced Agile/scrum in a positive setting and when its used then, it leads to a great work atmosphere and ethic. But you need a team that is motivated and honest. Supported by a business that is the same.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I've had complete slowdowns of the entire system with everything slowing to a crawl (sound, cursor, apps) on official 1903. I've been running stable builds ever since I've installed 10 and stuck to the corporate update ring. I'm lucky I actually didn't delete the 1809 copy that was created during the update process, since the slowdowns occurred on the third day after install.

That is strange, mine has been 100% fine, i see others with problems too, I must be just lucky I guess.

 

[Chomiq]

That is strange, mine has been 100% fine, i see others with problems too, I must be just lucky I guess.

It actually looked like some serious issue with superfetch or something. I just didn't want to troubleshoot this for unknown amount of time and decided to revert to 1809.

 

[erpguy53]

I've been on 1903 since 09/04/19 , and it is very stable for me, even though it was probably a "test" build. I have had absolutely zero problems or crashes. I can't really understand anyone's problem with it. My build no. is 18362.116

I too had been beta testing 1903 for a while and found no problems with it

I have v1903 build 18362.145 from the KB4497935 update rather than the .116 build, tigger. have you updated to that .145 build yet?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I too had been beta testing 1903 for a while and found no problems with it

I have v1903 build 18362.145 from the KB4497935 update rather than the .116 build, tigger. have you updated to that .145 build yet?

just downloading it now.

Eddit installed, not expecting any problems.

 

[trog100]

anybody else it wont install for.. on my desktop machine it tells me something is not suitable for this build of windows no need to take any action keeps using the build you have which is the 1809 build.

trog

 

[xorbe]

I pulled the trigger and updated to 1903. It seems to be working here okay (8086K + Z370 + nvme + 2080Ti). I hate that it resets certain settings and preferences.

 

[metalfiber]

I did a clean install of 1903 and everything works just fine. I had to get that new driver package from nvidia which didn't include the control panel. I had to get it from the windows store for free.

 

[biffzinker]

I had to get that new driver package from nvidia which didn't include the control panel. I had to get it from the windows store for free.

Universal Windows drivers enable developers to create a single driver package that runs across multiple different device types, from embedded systems to tablets and desktop PCs.
Only a three minute read if your interested.

Getting Started with Windows Drivers - Windows drivers

Windows Drivers allow you to create one driver that will run on all Windows variants.

docs.microsoft.com

 

[delshay]

I wonder if their is a small tweak to 1903 update. There's a message on the update apps that say's 1903 is not ready for my laptop, but it's on it's way. .

Laptop is Acer Ferrari 1200 (very old laptop)

 

[trog100]

I wonder if their is a small tweak to 1903 update. There's a message on the update apps that say's 1903 is not ready for my laptop, but it's on it's way. .

Laptop is Acer Ferrari 1200 (very old laptop)

i repeatably got that exact same message on my desktop.. it dosnt mean what you think it does..

in my case it was because i had a couple of usb drives plugged in.. i removed them and it installed..

trog

 

[phill]

I've just gone from 1803 to 1903 simply because I couldn't find a working ISO for 1809 (even direct from MS it seemed to hang when you booted off of the USB key.....) still, the only thing I had an issue with so far was when trying to access my Synology system I wasn't getting thumbnails correctly when viewing pictures.. Strange thing was it was showing them and then they'd disappear..

Also interestingly enough the OS was activated even without a key or me doing anything to it... Little confused there but not bothered in the slightest If anyone could let me know of a 1809 ISO I could download, I'd be most grateful

 

[metalfiber]

Universal Windows drivers enable developers to create a single driver package that runs across multiple different device types, from embedded systems to tablets and desktop PCs.
Only a three minute read if your interested.

Getting Started with Windows Drivers - Windows drivers

Windows Drivers allow you to create one driver that will run on all Windows variants.

docs.microsoft.com

Yeah, I did the research after the nvidia driver package kept saying it was not compatible with my system. I used one of those $12 oem keys to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro to have more control over Windows updates. All the other drivers are unaffected.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Jumped on 1903 and lost sound. The OS has some conflict with creative cards that breaks DDL and DTS functionality.

Its a widely documented issue. Creative know about it and have released driver fixes for the early XFi series cards but nothing for the SB-Z series and above just yet.

Reinstalled 1809

 

[metalfiber]

Jumped on 1903 and lost sound. The OS has some conflict with creative cards that breaks DDL and DTS functionality.

Its a widely documented issue. Creative know about it and have released driver fixes for the early XFi series cards but nothing for the SB-Z series and above just yet.

Reinstalled 1809

I had a little problem with a updated audio driver from Gigabyte. Creative BlasterX Pro Gaming 720 could not find the Realtek 1903 driver but i installed a older driver and it works fine now. Since then Gigabyte has removed that 1903 Realtek driver.

 

[delshay]

i repeatably got that exact same message on my desktop.. it dosnt mean what you think it does..

in my case it was because i had a couple of usb drives plugged in.. i removed them and it installed..

trog

Well that's interesting, I always have an SD card plug-in into the SD slot which I use for back-up. unplugging to see what happens..

UPDATE: Nope no difference, update not ready.

 

[trog100]

Well that's interesting, I always have an SD card plug-in into the SD slot which I use for back-up. unplugging to see what happens..

UPDATE: Nope no difference, update not ready.

i had two usb drives plugged in.. i read somewhere that windows would not complete the upgrade with external usb drives plugged in.. i removed mine and low and behold the update worked as it should..

i think its connected with data loss.. they play safe and and make sure any external drives are disconnected.. the "not ready" message is very vague and removing my external drives worked for me...

trog

ps.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveyw...e-wont-work-if-you-have-usb-drives-connected/

 

[Zareek]

Its one of those ideologies that relies entirely on people and responsibilities... I see its merit, but in business it gets abused to shove lots of work in too little time up your alley, only to conclude the better half wont ever get done... that is when everything turns to shit and technical debt accumulates already in the first dev cycle.

Ive also experienced Agile/scrum in a positive setting and when its used then, it leads to a great work atmosphere and ethic. But you need a team that is motivated and honest. Supported by a business that is the same.

Yes you can implement Agile development while still maintaining quality control. I'm not sure what is going on with M$, their internal testing is so bad. I used to participate in all their beta programs, especially Windows desktop OSes. Windows XP through Windows 10 but it got tedious and I just didn't have the time to devote to it anymore.

 

[kapone32]

Glad it's really working out for Microsoft, they themselves chose to stick with just one OS with multiple revisions, and for what? The quality control is all over the place, it's like a steam beta game at this point. I think Service packs worked better more often than not, even though you won't get anything new for a while.

I'm still on 1709, there's almost no reason to upgrade. Drivers or software gets broken, and "features" are added that I won't use and get added to multiple scripts released by people to remove that bloat.

They have the insider program, don't they have enough test rabbits to do this on... What a fail.

While it is anecdotal (I just updated the chipset this weekend) 1903 is supposed to have improved scheduling for Ryzen processors. My firstrike score increased by 3000+ points but I am not sure if that is attributed to my new cooler.

 

[don dolarson]

Guys, I was thinking about changing some icons in my system as I always do this kind of stuff so I've searched for this new folder and edited some icons in imageres.dll.mun but now I can't replace this file with the original. Tried to OWN the original file and everything goes successful i cmd, but the the file can't be touched. Not even name change of it. Tried to manually select full access to every profile in Advanced Security Settings but still can't touch this shit. The SystemResources folder where imageres.dll.mun file is is read only and can't be touched as well. How to get around this crap?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Guys, I was thinking about changing some icons in my system as I always do this kind of stuff so I've searched for this new folder and edited some icons in imageres.dll.mun but now I can't replace this file with the original. Tried to OWN the original file and everything goes successful i cmd, but the the file can't be touched. Not even name change of it. Tried to manually select full access to every profile in Advanced Security Settings but still can't touch this shit. The SystemResources folder where imageres.dll.mun file is is read only and can't be touched as well. How to get around this crap?

its kinda of a pain, but the folder properties need too be changed first before changing the file. I really dont recommend doing that, not just for 1 file. I dont see the problem why you cant manually change icons. Use a 3rd party app to change icons.