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TheMailMan78 said:
So the bum VGA did something to your mobo?
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Yes. Well, not physically, but it does seem to have introduced some BIOS corruption. However, that's not the VGA itself.. it's the driver crashing that does it. The how or why, I am not sure, and will have to get ASUS to look into this.

However, the driver crashing on the good card, when pushed too far, will do the same thing, although this one crash messed things up in BIOS far worse than I have experienced before.

For example:


Now, I can reset BIOS. CPU voltage does not get reset. Multiplier does not get reset. I can change options in BIOS, they will save, and when I enter the BIOS, they will appear to have taken, but go back into Windows, and no settings have changed.


What is going foul here, I have no idea. Other boards will have the BIOS reset form time to time, but nothing like what's going on on this MVF.
 
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cadaveca said:
Yes. Well, not physically, but it does seem to have introduced some BIOS corruption. However, that's not the VGA itself.. it's the driver crashing that does it. The how or why, I am not sure, and will have to get ASUS to look into this.

However, the driver crashing on the good card, when pushed too far, will do the same thing, although this one crash messed things up in BIOS far worse than I have experienced before.

For example:


Now, I can reset BIOS. CPU voltage does not get reset. Multiplier does not get reset. I can change options in BIOS, they will save, and when I enter the BIOS, they will appear to have taken, but go back into Windows, and no settings have changed.


What is going foul here, I have no idea. Other boards will have the BIOS reset form time to time, but nothing like what's going on on this MVF.
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Interesting. Keep us posted. Ive never heard of a OS messing up a bios like that via drivers. Learned something new indeed. Its kinda cool to know.......not cool for you.
 
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TheMailMan78 said:
Interesting. Keep us posted. Ive never heard of a OS messing up a bios like that via drivers. Learned something new indeed. Its kinda cool to know.......not cool for you.
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The real issue, is that to get this sorted, I'll have to deal with both ASUS and AMD, and I'm sure they'll each end up blaming the other, when really, I think it's both. ASUS new BIOSes have support for setting changes form within Windows, this gets mucked with by the driver crashing. Why that driver does that, and why the BIOS lets it... I dunno. I have a sneaking felling this may be around for a while.



Then again, you know, I do tend to be pushing things to the limit lately a lot, so maybe it's just me pushing too far. I am not sure.. I don't really think it's my doing, but I cannot ignore that possibility, too. Driver failures should not cause BSOD's or system freezes, and BIOS should not have issues with saves in such instances, either. I gotta try to fix the board, and then force it to happen again. But first, the board BIOS needs fixing.


Like I don't have enough issues to deal with right now...:shadedshu
 
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cadaveca said:
The real issue, is that to get this sorted, I'll have to deal with both ASUS and AMD, and I'm sure they'll each end up blaming the other, when really, I think it's both. ASUS new BIOSes have support for setting changes form within Windows, this gets mucked with by the driver crashing. Why that driver does that, and why the BIOS lets it... I dunno. I have a sneaking felling this may be around for a while.



Then again, you know, I do tend to be pushing things to the limit lately a lot, so maybe it's just me pushing too far. I am not sure.. I don't really think it's my doing, but I cannot ignore that possibility, too. Driver failures should not cause BSOD's or system freezes, and BIOS should not have issues with saves in such instances, either. I gotta try to fix the board, and then force it to happen again. But first, the board BIOS needs fixing.


Like I don't have enough issues to deal with right now...:shadedshu
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But its that "Gotta know WHY?!" feeling that will take you over. Belive me I KNOW! :laugh:

Keep us updated. This isnt your run of the mill issue and it would be good to track.
 
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Hey guys, this must be tipically something of Asus Z77 series... Apart from having video cards weirdness *exactlly* as Cadaveca tells it, right now I went into the BIOS to lower the core CPU volt a little, and back in Windows I noticed my soundcard is gone. The other day I had trouble getting TV card and X-Fi recognized. These Maximus V boards like to fool with the user!

EDIT: Are we hyjacking this thread? :)
 
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erixx said:
Hey guys, this must be tipically something of Asus Z77 series... Apart from having video cards weirdness *exactlly* as Cadaveca tells it, right now I went into the BIOS to lower the core CPU volt a little, and back in Windows I noticed my soundcard is gone. The other day I had trouble getting TV card and X-Fi recognized. These Maximus V boards like to fool with the user!

EDIT: Are we hyjacking this thread? :)
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No this is windows 8 related I think.
 
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Haha that's the most original IE ad I've ever seen!
 
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Drone said:

Haha that's the most original IE ad I've ever seen!
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That was a good commercial period! :laugh:

Thats going to be reposted SO MANY TIMES ON TPU.
 
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Techtu said:
Where would I go to do this?
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Under your pc settings (click it under the settings menu bar,right under the power down button) ,Advance start up options(under general),let it reboot then select advance options under driver look up click the tab so it shows no dot.
 
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I'll be installing soon. :rockout:
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I have 3 ssd drives. I have windows 7 ultimate on the 2 120GB drives and just installed Windows 8 on the newest 500 GB Samsung ssd drive. I anticipated problems and paid for Stardock's Start 8 application, so at least I have thew start button. I see no compelling reason for windows 8. Certainly the user interface has no advantage for most people. I have a 23" screen why would I need a windows tablet design. I do not own or intend to own a windows phone or a windows tablet. It is a poorly conceived operating system . I see no performance improvements in the windows scheduler that were promised in windows 8 for people with 8 core cpus like the AMD FX-8350 which I own. I prefer windows 7 Ultimate and . I can tolerate windows 8 with the modified interface I have now. This was a bogus upgrade as their is no compelling improvements in its design. I' am glad I only paid for 1 license , I have no intention of "upgrading" my notebook, or second pc.
 
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i seemed to have lost my windows 8 x64 pro DVD!!! i have the license key still. i know that downloading the ISO is not illegal it is using a cracked key/etc that is illegal. anyone have an iso for me?
 
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i seemed to have lost my windows 8 x64 pro DVD!!! i have the license key still. i know that downloading the ISO is not illegal it is using a cracked key/etc that is illegal. anyone have an iso for me?
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I can give you an iso but are they tied to the number? I don't want to do anything illegal.
 
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I can give you an iso but are they tied to the number? I don't want to do anything illegal.
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you purchase a key not an iso or a disc so it is not illegal. do you have an ftp client? if so you can upload it to me.
 
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The key isn't tied to the discs. I used the same ISO I downloaded the first time on all my W8 installs.
 
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what sucks is i downloaded it from dreamspark when it came out but my account expired since i graduated. i need somebody to hook me up. i bet mailman is trolling.
 
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what sucks is i downloaded it from dreamspark when it came out but my account expired since i graduated. i need somebody to hook me up. i bet mailman is trolling.
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No I got it man. Just not sure how to get it to you. I can try Skydrive.
 
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No I got it man. Just not sure how to get it to you. I can try Skydrive.
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ftp client like filezilla is free and a minimal install. i can give you my ftp url to upload it directly to me. no cloud nonsense.
 
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Easy Rhino said:
ftp client like filezilla is free and a minimal install. i can give you my ftp url to upload it directly to me. no cloud nonsense.
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I can upload it to Skydrive and share it with you.

I'm not installing anything.
 
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I can upload it to Skydrive and share it with you.

I'm not installing anything.
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alright. i have never used skydrive so you will have to let me know how. also, don't be scared of installing things. not everything has a virus like dayz :roll:
 
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