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No it doesnt.

The registry is a mix of a database and a configuration file. The problem with the registry is that it becomes too deep and you get directories, inside directories, inside more directories. On Ubuntu, I like knowing that all the configuration I need for apache is right in /etc/apache2. I need to update X, /etc/X11, presto!

The registry is too clunky and just gives developers and easy and lazy way to obfuscate configuration settings from the user. It wasn't good on 3.11 and I can tell you it hasn't gotten any better now.
 

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I,m trying to install for a test and at the beginning they tell me to enter the serial key. But I never recieved any I just downloaded the trial from their website. How do i get a key for this ?
 
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Ok, after reading through 3 pages of peoples opinions about wether or not W8 is worth buying, I just want to ask a couple easy questions..lol

Is it better in games?
Does it take less resources to maintain?

Thank you..
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Everytime new MS OS is released, rants come from OLD people (>20).

I kept hearing these pathetic rants about supposed "end of the everything" since win98, through win 2000, win XP, Vista and 7. All of those were "end of the game", yet I can't imagine myself going back to Vista or XP because of their UI, which is plainly worse.

Now I'm 28 myself... and Win8 seems a bit too strange for me.
Aw hell... Maybe we should just euthanise elderly people. Like... everyone above 18 :D
 

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What you mean because of their UI ? What does UI stands for ?
 

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Everytime new MS OS is released, rants come from OLD people (>20).

I kept hearing these pathetic rants about supposed "end of the everything" since win98, through win 2000, win XP, Vista and 7. All of those were "end of the game", yet I can't imagine myself going back to Vista or XP because of their UI, which is plainly worse.

Now I'm 28 myself... and Win8 seems a bit too strange for me.
Aw hell... Maybe we should just euthanise elderly people. Like... everyone above 18 :D

IDK I can withstand UI of 95,98, 2000, XP, 7

8 reminds me too much of Win 3.1 and lower, very cumbersome.

What you mean because of their UI ? What does UI stands for ?

UI means User Interface-

GUI is Graphical User Interface
 
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Heh found these:



 
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That pic is total bullshit. When Windows 95 got released it was a hit. Actually Win95 was the first revolutionary operating system which brought a lot of ui and other improvements. It was rather Win98 which didn't add anything special and looked like old wine in a new bottle.
 

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95 and 98 were good. ME was bad, 98SE was good.

wheres NT, 2K, XP MCE, and XP64 in that list?
 
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win31 was bad either.. too many general protection fault,, too many manual setup. it considered good only because it brought colorful desktop.
 

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Apple doesn't use a registry. Works fine.

That's nice, it is totally irrelevant and it doesn't answer my question though.

The registry is a mix of a database and a configuration file. The problem with the registry is that it becomes too deep and you get directories, inside directories, inside more directories. On Ubuntu, I like knowing that all the configuration I need for apache is right in /etc/apache2. I need to update X, /etc/X11, presto!

The registry is too clunky and just gives developers and easy and lazy way to obfuscate configuration settings from the user. It wasn't good on 3.11 and I can tell you it hasn't gotten any better now.

Yes, but that just means that /etc becomes the same thing as the registry. It is just part of the file system. Nothing is stopping developers from doing that on Windows now. In fact, that system is already in place in Windows, it is called the /ProgramData directory. I can do in there now and several programs use it to store configuration data.

There is nothing that says Windows programs have to use the registry to store configuration data, the only real things that have to go in the registry is a few keys to tell Windows the program is installed and where the uninstaller is located, so that it shows up in Programs And Features, and that isn't even required either if you don't want the program to appear in Programs and Features.

95 and 98 were good. ME was bad, 98SE was good.

wheres NT, XP MCE, and XP64 in that list?

That would complicate things.

And I seem to remember 98 being rather shit, but 98SE being good. Of course Win2k was like Vista, shit at first but after a few Service Packs they both became rather good. I think I've said this several times, but if I didn't get Win7 for free, I'd still be using Vista. In it's current form, it isn't all that much different from Win7.
 
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with the removal of the start button, it looks like win7 will be the new xp.
M$ will be begging users to stop using win7 :D

hope you get the point :)
 
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with the removal of the start button, it looks like win7 will be the new xp.
M$ will be begging users to stop using win7 :D

hope you get the point :)

Who needs a start menu when you have a desktop?

hope you get the point :)
 
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If you happen to be playing with Windows 8 and are missing the silly windows games like solitaire or free cell there is a work around to get these installed and working in windows 8.

Found this forum when looking for them to enable these games for the wifes laptop.

http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sh...t-Free-Cell-and-Solitaire-working-in-Win-8-CP

I did this as stated and the wife is playing free cell without issues.
 

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quite a restricted test on just one laptop, but at least improvements are there.


problem is that he said all updates are installed. that means his win 7 install would have had a much more fragmented hard drive than the win 8 install, so both OS's should have been fresh with no updates, or defragged (with the same tool) before testing.
 
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No matter how horrid it is, it was made to make money, with low money
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If you happen to be playing with Windows 8 and are missing the silly windows games like solitaire or free cell there is a work around to get these installed and working in windows 8.

Found this forum when looking for them to enable these games for the wifes laptop.

http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sh...t-Free-Cell-and-Solitaire-working-in-Win-8-CP

I did this as stated and the wife is playing free cell without issues.

Jumping through hoops to play Freecell and solitare? Oy vey. That's certainly a bad sign
 
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I'll try to resurrect this thread. Installed Win 8 RP 64b clean on a machine that was running Vista Ultimate 32b for the last 4 years. When I said 4 years that's the last time an OS was installed on that machine and has gotten to the point where a clean install was necessary so instead of taking out my Vista OEM disk I decided to give windows 8 a last chance to impress me.

Now, compared to Vista and the state in which the OS was on this computer, Win 8 is flying.
Boot is amazingly fast on a more than average system (E8400 3GHz, P35, mechanical 4 year old HDD). Headaches begin after...

Since it's a long list I will ask for advice just for one for now. When I shutdown the system everything goes (again) fast and the screen gets in standby but... the computer is still powered up! Any thoughts?
 

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Does anyone know the stand alone price for Win8? Not the upgrade. The stand alone. Ive read 70 bucks.
 
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