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You get the idea, just <insert woman of choice here>. But man, I don't know what I would do if that card ever went kaput; I'd probably go nuts.
 

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hey if anything at all went kaput in my rig id go nuts - one of the things im afraid of the most next to injections.....

feeling the shit run down your legs after a bad system failure & crossing your fingers n hoping it aint the worst case scenario...
 

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yea that is always a bad feeling, or when the thing just shuts off completely and you can't get it to POST >.<
 

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The X-fi club eh? I would like to join and add my Elite Pro to the ranks. IMO, the EP is the best thing since sliced bread. It, and my Sennheiser HD 650s produce a flawless sound (well I am sure there are flaws, but none that I can tell.) that is as smooth and sexy as a soaking wet Halle Berry.

Very nice article though; it's nice to see all of the differences in the PCB layouts. Do you have any idea of when you will get material for the modding section?


Alrighty - I'll add ya up :toast:


I have more material for the modding section - whenever I can get around to firing up the soldering iron for my current card . . . I had done some with my previous XGFP . . .

there's another user I need to get back in touch with as well over some more technical stuffs - he knows the caps a lot better than I do.

I'm also planning on attempting to swap the DAC at some point - I have a unit that will work, but there's one hurdle to get over, as well as having to solder all those tiny legs :twitch:
 

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Alrighty - I'll add ya up :toast:


I have more material for the modding section - whenever I can get around to firing up the soldering iron for my current card . . . I had done some with my previous XGFP . . .

there's another user I need to get back in touch with as well over some more technical stuffs - he knows the caps a lot better than I do.

I'm also planning on attempting to swap the DAC at some point - I have a unit that will work, but there's one hurdle to get over, as well as having to solder all those tiny legs :twitch:

Yeah, that would suck if you bridged two joints. So what kinda DAC are you gunna use? Have you heard nice things about it?
 

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Yeah, that would suck if you bridged two joints. So what kinda DAC are you gunna use? Have you heard nice things about it?

The DAC I have is a CS4385, which is hardware compatible with the CS4382.

It's still a 24b/192kHz, 114db SNR output device - from what I've read, though, it's much better in terms of accuracy and it's ability to convert sounds quickly compared to the CS4382 - haven't seen anything on it's overall tone, though . . . Should really boost the overall subjective sound quality either way, and coupled with the new caps and OPAMPs should *hopefully* have a marked improvement.
 

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New X-Fi driver set available - driver version 2.18.008

release notes:

This download supports the following audio devices only:

  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty® Professional Series
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi


Added Features:

For systems using Windows Vista

  • Dolby® Digital and DTS® decode re-established for sound cards that included decoding in their Windows XP drivers (Not applicable for products that included a 3rd party software DVD player license in the package).
  • DVD-Audio playback re-established for sound cards that included the application in their Windows XP software suite (For Windows Vista 32-bit only).
  • Requires the latest Creative MediaSource DVD-Audio Player software. Click here to download.

Fixes:

  • Resolves issue of audio popping when playing AC-3 Wave files or using Dolby Digital Live via the digital output on Windows Vista.
  • Resolves Audio Control Panel issue of incorrect X-Fi CMSS®-3D behavior while using Audio Creation Mode.


Requirements:

  • Windows Vista 64-bit, Windows Vista 32-bit, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows XP Media Center Edition (MCE) 2005 or Windows XP MCE 2004
  • Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi audio devices listed above
 

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Ya, snagged me those last night. Had to do an emergency re-install and checked for new driver sets instead of using my back-ups. Haven't had a chance to test them out yet, but it looks like they added a few nice things for Vista users... even though it appears it doesn't have true Bluray support for Vista yet. I wonder if they have any plans to make Media Source BD/HD-DVD compatible?
 
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I just picked up a X-fi Titanium Fatal1ty for a hell of a deal at Best Buy!! After everything I paid 96 bucks so I decided the card can't be that bad. So far I'm very impressed and love the clarity over the onboard Soundmax. No more popping so far and tomorrow I'll see how it does with movies.
 

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I think somebody should write to or email Creative & let them know that they 'DO' Acutaly have a card called 'Titanium Fata1ty Professional' floating out on the deep blue market & 'Actualy' write some new drivers for us....

Last official drivers (unless im wrong - so i havent looked but i know the latest 2.18.008 pack wont have anything for me/us/idiots who bought a Titanium Fata1ity Professional) were last August. A few bugs have then since then appeard - such as FALLOUT 3 - breaking the console.

I set the thing in game mode & play some Fallout 3 but after i end the session the console jams up & i can no longer switch to Entertainment mode unless i restart my machine.


what the hell are those creative muppets doing??? dont tell me their gonna blame their 'inactivity' due to the laying off of much need programmers, which would be a bonus in creatives case because they are useless anyway who then will blame their sacking on the credit crunch????


there should be a regulatory body/council formed to monitor Creatives 'Customer Satisfaction' ratings to make sure they dont slack off & of course to higher the right sort of people to do their dirty work. - I dont mind slackers. dont get me wrong. Id rather they take forever to whip up a package that actually works rather then them taking forever & whipping up a package that thinks its an installer package for a f**king finger print scanner....

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& i know you dont tolerate bashing on this thread, please allow me to vent my frustration in this 1 post.
 

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Speaker/Subwoofer connection w/Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Audio card

Just found this Forum. Have been reviewing posts. Looks as though you folks may be able to help. This will be a long post as I want to be clear that there is no problem with my X-Fi but rather my problem is the proper way to hook my card up to an old set of speakers. Hopefully the following will explain:

I have a problem. Recently, my on board sound system quite working. I decided to purchase a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatality Pro. So far so good. However, my speaker system is about ten years old and although it still works flawlessly, its two audio inputs (analog & S/PDIF) don't jibe with my new sound card (I think?). At least I am confused regarding how to hook things up.

My speaker system is an Altec Lansing ADA880. This is a multimedia amplified speaker system featuring Dolby Digital AC3 and Dolby Pr0-logic surround and stereo reproduction. The unit is comprised of a subwoofer and two satellite speakers. This combination provides surround sound on a desktop by utilizing side firing speakers. For enhanced surround sound the tip speaker portion of each satellite can be separated and placed on a provided stand with long speakers wires. This enables the separated speakers to be placed for text surround sound performance. All four speakers and plugged into the back of the subwoofer. The amplifier inputs can simultaneously operate on analog and digital (S/PDIF) auido signals. Still OK, but here is the problem.

The input lines to the Subwoofer are 1) an analog line w/mini-stereo plugs (green) and 2) an S/PDIF line with RCA plugs (black).

The question is, how do I hook these two lines to the Sound Blaster card. The sound plaster has five Jacks or Connectors:

1)AD_Link connector; a 26 pin connector for an X-Fi I/O Console,
2) Line out 3 Jack: On 5.1 systems for the Front Center speakers and Subwoofer. On 6.1 systems for Front Center, rear center speakers and Subwoofer. On 7.1 systems: Front Center, Side left speakers and Subwoofer.
3)Line Out 2 Jack: On 4.15.1 and 6.1 systems for Rear Left and Rear Right speakers. On 7.1 systems for Rear Left and Rear Right speakers.
4)Line out 2 Jack: Connect the Front Left and Front Right inputs on powered analog speakers or a home theater receiver to this jack. You can also connect your stereo headphones with a 3.50 mm (1/8-inch) plug to this jack.
5)FlexiJack: Connect one of the following to this jack:
1.Analog devices like cassette and other lin-in sources
2.a microphone
3.the digital I/O Module
4.external digital audio devices that accept stereo PCM or compressed Doldy Digital/DTS Bitstream from the S/PDIF output.d

What this suggests to me is that I only need to hook up my S/PDIF cord from the Subwoofer to the FlexiJack on the X-Fi audio card. Right? Or am I missing something? It does make me nervous to leave unplugged the analog input.

Any suggestions?
 

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Ask people over on the Creative Labs Forums for Assistance in hooking your system up.



On another note, i hope these latest stable drivers are better than the betas ive tried in the past, as they would cause lag spikes, i wound up goin with a driver from 2006.
 

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Hey, I have already asked the Creative Labs Forum Tech's for help. They responded but I was hopeful of getting a second opinion from others. It looks to me like all I need to do is purchase a mini-stereo adapter for my RCA cord and plug it into the X-Fi's FlexiJack. Should I also plug in the analog line to X-Fi's line out 2? What do you think?
 

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A late joiner to the party, I've just upgraded my Audigy 4 to an X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fata1ity Pro. Definitely impressed with the sound quality so far, with the Crystalizer on in FarCry 2 the reports from the rifles are fantastic. Running the latest drivers without any issues so far, although I only have a 2.1 speaker set.

I reckon I got a good deal, PC World (of all places) were selling it at £50, half the price of the current Xtreme Gamer which was £97. Sure, the X Ram will probably never be used but I feel the upgrade was still well worth it
 

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A late joiner to the party, I've just upgraded my Audigy 4 to an X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fata1ity Pro. Definitely impressed with the sound quality so far, with the Crystalizer on in FarCry 2 the reports from the rifles are fantastic. Running the latest drivers without any issues so far, although I only have a 2.1 speaker set.

I reckon I got a good deal, PC World (of all places) were selling it at £50, half the price of the current Xtreme Gamer which was £97. Sure, the X Ram will probably never be used but I feel the upgrade was still well worth it

for £50???? was it in their 'bargain' section?? even if it was wrapped in cling film i doubt they would sell it that cheaply - thats what happend with a set of Logitech V20 speakers - they were just sitting there - no box, no manual, no additional cables or accessories - & how much do u think they were selling it for???? £10 off the full retail price which made me ROFL in the assistants face for like 5mins before i was able to tell her i didnt want them.

Marketing like that is hilarious - like the time i was in a Sainsbury's supermarket & they had a sign above boxs of peeled shrimp that said something along the lines of this - "Sainsbury's keeps tabs with all supermarket retailers to ensure they wont be beaten on price"

THEY were selling the shrimp @ 1p less per box then Asda - a fact they also quoted on their little note thing.


I love people/retailers who think their curing cancer by lowing their prices by 1p.
 

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Yes yes, I have worked retail, and I too know of such rofltacos. I have never understood the way management thinks. They honestly think they are going to sell an open box used item with half the crap missing for a mere 10 percent discount. For some reason they seem to think that if they take more off they are losing money. When in fact, they fail to realize that said item has already been bought and paid for... by the store. So, in fact, by not selling the item (which they definitely won't at that pathetic discount) they are losing more money than if they were to just put 30 percent off. Better to lose 30 percent than 100...
 

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for £50???? was it in their 'bargain' section?? even if it was wrapped in cling film i doubt they would sell it that cheaply - thats what happend with a set of Logitech V20 speakers - they were just sitting there - no box, no manual, no additional cables or accessories - & how much do u think they were selling it for???? £10 off the full retail price which made me ROFL in the assistants face for like 5mins before i was able to tell her i didnt want them.

Marketing like that is hilarious - like the time i was in a Sainsbury's supermarket & they had a sign above boxs of peeled shrimp that said something along the lines of this - "Sainsbury's keeps tabs with all supermarket retailers to ensure they wont be beaten on price"

THEY were selling the shrimp @ 1p less per box then Asda - a fact they also quoted on their little note thing.




I love people/retailers who think their curing cancer by lowing their prices by 1p.
Straight up bud, no shit. Go to PC Worlds' site and have a look for yourself. Fully boxed and sealed too. I had to drive 35 miles to get it at the Gloucester store, but I'm glad I did. Just loaded up Quake 4 and with the X-FI, 4870 and 1920x1080 on Ultra Textures I nearly shat meself, LOL
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=289718&category_oid=
 

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Zgrats on an excellent purchase mon friar. I hope it brings you many years of beautiful music. And just to be witless... once you go black, you never go back. :toast: *Holds up a Guinness* To another successful conversion!
 

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Ya, snagged me those last night. Had to do an emergency re-install and checked for new driver sets instead of using my back-ups. Haven't had a chance to test them out yet, but it looks like they added a few nice things for Vista users... even though it appears it doesn't have true Bluray support for Vista yet. I wonder if they have any plans to make Media Source BD/HD-DVD compatible?

On BR support - not certain yet. Technically, any audio card is capable of supporting HD-DVD audio quality playback (24b/192kHz), but only in 2-channel mode - this is the only mode this audio is encoded in. But, not sure what features might be supported in the future, only time will tell . . . it's possible, seeing as how the Titaniums are the first X-Fis to fully support Dolby encoding.


I think somebody should write to or email Creative & let them know that they 'DO' Acutaly have a card called 'Titanium Fata1ty Professional' floating out on the deep blue market & 'Actualy' write some new drivers for us....

Last official drivers (unless im wrong - so i havent looked but i know the latest 2.18.008 pack wont have anything for me/us/idiots who bought a Titanium Fata1ity Professional) were last August. A few bugs have then since then appeard - such as FALLOUT 3 - breaking the console.

& i know you dont tolerate bashing on this thread, please allow me to vent my frustration in this 1 post.


I don't have much of a problem with people airing their grievances with Creative on occasion, as long as they at least try to provide some reason aside from the "they just suck" excuse so common with the majority of bashers . . . and as long as negative comments don't get too out of control . . .

but, in regards to your issue - it might be possible it could be an issue with the game not backing out properly . . . doubtful, but possible.

Curious - were you using EAX (does FO3 even support EAX?)?

Just found this Forum. Have been reviewing posts. Looks as though you folks may be able to help. This will be a long post as I want to be clear that there is no problem with my X-Fi but rather my problem is the proper way to hook my card up to an old set of speakers. Hopefully the following will explain:

I have a problem. Recently, my on board sound system quite working. I decided to purchase a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatality Pro. So far so good. However, my speaker system is about ten years old and although it still works flawlessly, its two audio inputs (analog & S/PDIF) don't jibe with my new sound card (I think?). At least I am confused regarding how to hook things up.

My speaker system is an Altec Lansing ADA880. This is a multimedia amplified speaker system featuring Dolby Digital AC3 and Dolby Pr0-logic surround and stereo reproduction. The unit is comprised of a subwoofer and two satellite speakers. This combination provides surround sound on a desktop by utilizing side firing speakers. For enhanced surround sound the tip speaker portion of each satellite can be separated and placed on a provided stand with long speakers wires. This enables the separated speakers to be placed for text surround sound performance. All four speakers and plugged into the back of the subwoofer. The amplifier inputs can simultaneously operate on analog and digital (S/PDIF) auido signals. Still OK, but here is the problem.

The input lines to the Subwoofer are 1) an analog line w/mini-stereo plugs (green) and 2) an S/PDIF line with RCA plugs (black).

The question is, how do I hook these two lines to the Sound Blaster card. The sound plaster has five Jacks or Connectors:

1)AD_Link connector; a 26 pin connector for an X-Fi I/O Console,
2) Line out 3 Jack: On 5.1 systems for the Front Center speakers and Subwoofer. On 6.1 systems for Front Center, rear center speakers and Subwoofer. On 7.1 systems: Front Center, Side left speakers and Subwoofer.
3)Line Out 2 Jack: On 4.15.1 and 6.1 systems for Rear Left and Rear Right speakers. On 7.1 systems for Rear Left and Rear Right speakers.
4)Line out 2 Jack: Connect the Front Left and Front Right inputs on powered analog speakers or a home theater receiver to this jack. You can also connect your stereo headphones with a 3.50 mm (1/8-inch) plug to this jack.
5)FlexiJack: Connect one of the following to this jack:
1.Analog devices like cassette and other lin-in sources
2.a microphone
3.the digital I/O Module
4.external digital audio devices that accept stereo PCM or compressed Doldy Digital/DTS Bitstream from the S/PDIF output.d

What this suggests to me is that I only need to hook up my S/PDIF cord from the Subwoofer to the FlexiJack on the X-Fi audio card. Right? Or am I missing something? It does make me nervous to leave unplugged the analog input.

Any suggestions?


hmmm . . .

I get the feeling the one mini-jack connection coming from your speakers is for the left/right channel speakers. If this is true, this connection with go into line_out 1.

The RCA cable sounds like it feeds the subwoofer seperately (although I can't be 100% certain), but if this is true, you'd need a mini-jack to RCA adapter that would plug into line_out 3 (center/sub channel).

Again, this is just kinda a guess - it sounds like you have a rather unconventional hook-up configuration for common computer speakers.
 

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hmmm I just thought about something how many games actually utilize EAX...I know there is a ton but there are some I question though, because for some reason they just advertise on the back of the box. Like GRID....


Also what would be a good set of headphones for these. I may go cheap and get Sennhd201's but if anyone has any other suggestions I'm open, Selling off my x540's because I'll be moving pretty soon here I hope.
 

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hmmm I just thought about something how many games actually utilize EAX...I know there is a ton but there are some I question though, because for some reason they just advertise on the back of the box. Like GRID....


Also what would be a good set of headphones for these. I may go cheap and get Sennhd201's but if anyone has any other suggestions I'm open, Selling off my x540's because I'll be moving pretty soon here I hope.


As to EAX - it's become a little ambiguous . . . any game that uses OpenAL can technically claim to support EAX. Although I'm sure to use the EAX image and all they must pay some kind of royalty for it . . .

OpenAL pretty much includes EAX 2.0 extensions, and the EAX 2.0 SDK is free, IIRC, and the OpenAL SKD is 100% free. So, any developer that feels like using these audio extensions can get away with it, and technically support EAX (although it might no be EAX 5-HD).

Take STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl, for example, it supports EAX and Open AL . . . but only EAX 2.0.



Oh, and on the headphones . . . it's a little rough to recommend something. Altec Lansing makes some good headsets, some of the 5.1 headsets are great (if you're willing to pay for them) . . . theres just so much on the market, though . . . just make sure to do some reading before making a purchase. Look up reviews, look if other's have post their opinions, etc. Take it all with a grain of salt, though, not all users who share their comments on a specific product might have the "ear" to really back up their statements - same goes for reviewers as well. I see a lot of reviews for speakers, etc where they're reamed by users for stoopid reasons that have nothing to do with output quality nor build quality.
 

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As to EAX - it's become a little ambiguous . . . any game that uses OpenAL can technically claim to support EAX. Although I'm sure to use the EAX image and all they must pay some kind of royalty for it . . .

OpenAL pretty much includes EAX 2.0 extensions, and the EAX 2.0 SDK is free, IIRC, and the OpenAL SKD is 100% free. So, any developer that feels like using these audio extensions can get away with it, and technically support EAX (although it might no be EAX 5-HD).

Take STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl, for example, it supports EAX and Open AL . . . but only EAX 2.0.



Oh, and on the headphones . . . it's a little rough to recommend something. Altec Lansing makes some good headsets, some of the 5.1 headsets are great (if you're willing to pay for them) . . . theres just so much on the market, though . . . just make sure to do some reading before making a purchase. Look up reviews, look if other's have post their opinions, etc. Take it all with a grain of salt, though, not all users who share their comments on a specific product might have the "ear" to really back up their statements - same goes for reviewers as well. I see a lot of reviews for speakers, etc where they're reamed by users for stoopid reasons that have nothing to do with output quality nor build quality.

Yea this is true. In audio land it's always tough trying to find that right piece of equipment, that goes for speakers, headphones, headsets, heck even the audiophile setup. but I'll take a look though, sennhd201's were the first thing that came to my mind though.
 

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I've heard that the Senn 280's are a nice set for the money. However, if you have the spare scratch I would suggest doling out $250 for the 580's or the full $380 for the 650's. Personally, I will never use anything other than Sennheiser ever again. There shear level of build and sound quality is amazing. I have dropped my 650's on solid concrete well over a dozen times and they sound just as good as the day I bought them.(They got a few scratches and dents, but nothing major). I have never listened to anything the same way after owning these. Which may or may not be a good thing, as I have now acquired champagne taste on a beer budget.


Also, a slight caveat, almost all of the full sized headset from Sennheiser have around a 100 hour break in period. When you first get them they sound like crap. The best thing to do is gather up all of the unused pillows and blankets and bury the headset. Then leave it on for a while with the volume fully cranked. In about 12 hours you will have a great sound that will be more than tolerable until the break-in period has passed.


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Straight up bud, no shit. Go to PC Worlds' site and have a look for yourself. Fully boxed and sealed too. I had to drive 35 miles to get it at the Gloucester store, but I'm glad I did. Just loaded up Quake 4 and with the X-FI, 4870 and 1920x1080 on Ultra Textures I nearly shat meself, LOL
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=289718&category_oid=

thats a great offer!!! but its probably a lot easier for you to get to Glouchester from where you are :p - obviously petrol didnt cost you too much otherwise you'd probably paying the equivalent for the other XFi cards that are bought localy/online.

shame they dont do home deliveries with that offer which makes pc world that bit much more gay
 
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