X1900 Launch Analysis by NVIDIA

[TooFast]

this is uncalled for and annoying.. if you dont wish to post something even partially useful, please save w1zzard some bandwidth

btw, why didnt you go with the 30" apple? Its so much more beautiful than the 23 lol

but nice system. love to see mac os x on it.

sorry my bad, but for now ati is in the lead

 

[zOaib]

sorry my bad, but for now ati is in the lead

u need to post a pic of your x1900xt crossfire setup soi we can all drool here

 

[jydie]

I am glad that there are 2 major video card developers in the field. Competition is great. I really do not like it when either slams the other though. Let your products do the "talking". The consumer and magazine reviews will do plenty of "talking". I have had great luck with ATI cards in the past and their All-In-Wonder cards have almost no competition. I honestly think that the few nvidia cards I have had in the past run a little to hot. Even the lowly 5200 runs extremely hot and can barely play a game at 800x600... not sure why they ever made that card... it is almost worthless.

Both ATI and Nvidia seem to have some great cards on the upper end, but I will not be able to afford those for a few years, so I can not comment on them. Honestly, both Crossfire and SLI seem like overkill to me... that and a way for people to waste another $500 so they can play their games at 200 FPS and use their system as a space heater.

ATI has many great options in the $75-$150 range. I strongly recommend going with an ATI 9600XT, 9800 PRO, or X800 if you have an AGP port. If you have PCI-E, go with the X700 PRO, or even better the X800 PRO/GTO... the X1600's also look good, but I have not had the chance to try them out yet. Nvidia's 6800 GS is nearing this price range, and it may be a decent card to look into. I have never used one yet, so I do not know how it benches or what temps it runs at. You can try your luck with a 6600 GT, but the ones I have had run hot and did not have a long life-span.

Keep the cards coming ATI and Nvdia. This is a great time to be a PC gaming consumer.

 

[Dreamchaser]

Nvidia's trying to CON the Consumer

The idiots at Nvidia think gamers likes us r stupid to believe what they have posted on the internet.
If you noticed, in the past they did the same thing, attacking ATI"s hardware (GPU) claiming that their cards runs faster and better in technological overall, and they did it again this time!
If ATI started to post thier comments on the internt, I personally don't blame them for doing so! (who's started the fight first?)
Yeah I agree the fact that they had had this SLI out first, but look at how many people can actually afford two expensive cards.For me , I just barely afford one.
Yes, bothe Crossfire and SLI are great for gamers who can afford it, but I read on the internet, one of the site did a comparision b/w a single card Vs. crossfire and SLI to see if there is any exceptional gain in FPS. The end result was that it's not worth your hard-earn cash! What they advised people is to buy the fastest single card and still provides you with excellent game play.

Anyway, stupid Nvidia are always think people are dumb and I hate their logo "The way it's meant to be Played" program that inserted into most games that I played .....I don't want to see that crap everytime I load up me games
Any thoghts on this guys?
Tell me what you think anyway

 

[Ser-J]

There is more the 10 different websites where x1900xt/xtx were reviewed. 80% of these websites of course were comparing x1900xtx vs 7800gt 512 and in most cases ati outperforms nboyz. My question now is that this, does nVidia really think that we are that stupid to look at the benchmark numbers they made up and believe them when we have other sources that do not support or proof their bull sh!t.

 

[MissingXtension]

you know when i read this i though more people were going to be suckered by this (like bushies). I am surprised to see such ekepticism, and its good people are asking questions. But the main point that has to be made is that Nvidia thinks they can set theyre own prices even though the reason they beat out the voodoo had to with a low end feature rich (riva) card that still packed the punch. In Cnet nvidia said they had 600 dollar plus video cards because people were willing to pay for them. I am an ATI whore i love my AIW9800pro and the fact that its ATI. Nvidia forgot about theyre victory over 3dfx (witch i regret i still have my 3500)and that is theyre down fall. for the price they want ive been looking at some profesional cards like fire gl and wildcats because if consumer cards are going to be that expensive i migh as well get an industrial grade single chip config.

 

[MissingXtension]

http://www.tomshardware.com/1998/10/07/nvidia_vs/page15.html
i remember seeing this in tomshardware b 4 and i thought it was a perfect example of what nvidia forgot!!

 

[TooFast]

It is a FACT that ATI cards are in the lead!

 

[Dreamchaser]

You're are right buddy!!
Just let the N-nerd post their stupid comments about Ati and more people will stay away from them lol

 

[zOaib]

VIVA LA RADEON !

 

[Cybie1111]

VIVA LA RADEON !

Was that necessary?

We dont need anymore fanboy posts.

My next card will be nVidia since I switch to different brands of graphics maybe just to piss off my uncle because I just cant stick to one brand (he sticks to ATi). The other system I have at home uses the GeForce 5200 now before I got this system with my X700 a year ago. The other system was not suppose to be a gaming system but its sufficent for my parents for office use now.

 

[Jodiuh]

Wow...some of these comments are taken so out of context. And who sees these slides anyway? I've only seen them here and on other forums, lol! I know they're not for us, or does NV really think we're that dumb? Maybe it's for the OEMS? Who knows.

Someone put together a list of benchmarks from 20 or so sites that looked at the r580. Anyone
know, got that link handy?

 

[inotocracy]

Fud

Somehow I cant help but believe Techpowerup.com is creating these slides to drive traffic to their site. Does no one notice how similar all of these slides are to eachother?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/X1900LaunchAnalysis/1

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/WhatToExpect/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/NVDesperate/2

Maybe I'm just paranoid... anyhoo, for safe measure I figured it wouldn't hurt to Email these links to ATI and Nvidia PR reps.

 

[Polaris573]

Sombody forgot to take their pills this morning.......

 

[AMDCam]

It is true, both ATI and Nvidia seem to be making the exact same types of slideshows. But inotocracy, you're taking it way too far man. Obviously you're (inotocracy) not gonna be back on I assume (just 1 post to tell us about this), but if you are, you need to calm down. You don't go to this website, you don't know anything about anyone here, including W1zzard, and you have no idea how people interact here so why try to get this site in trouble like that? Are you looking for problems to blame on people? Being a virtual taddle tale is the pussiest thing I can think of man, get a life.

 

[wazzledoozle]

W1zzard just has good connections.

Nvidia and ATI's marketing departments probably just do these for fun... its like football fans rooting for their teams after a win.

 

[Dreamchaser]

You have had no idiea

Somehow I cant help but believe Techpowerup.com is creating these slides to drive traffic to their site. Does no one notice how similar all of these slides are to eachother?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/X1900LaunchAnalysis/1

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/WhatToExpect/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/NVDesperate/2

Maybe I'm just paranoid... anyhoo, for safe measure I figured it wouldn't hurt to Email these links to ATI and Nvidia PR reps.

It seems obvious to me that you have no idiea what we have been writing about.
You don't belong to this forum. Why are you saying this bullshit of yours about Techpowerup? Have you ever thought that Nvidia has posted the slide show before? ........They asked for it! not Techpowerup nor ATI mate. You're out off context!!!!
Don't ever come back to this site again.
You bloody looser .....piss off!!!

 

[Dreamchaser]

W1zzard just has good connections.

Nvidia and ATI's marketing departments probably just do these for fun... its like football fans rooting for their teams after a win.

:shadedshu I don't think Nv is doing this just for fun. It's actually a tatical move to devour us lot in order to gain market share.
Further to this argument, Nv has been caught their hands in the cookie jar agian. The accusation was that Nv and it's dear partner "AEG" inadvertently using methods of online shills used in marketing for video games and other products.
It seems to me that the Nv are envy of ATI's technological advancements (Ati always invent themselves...taking things to the next level) Remember the good old Radeon 9700? That card gave Nv a deep gop smacked in the face, and it took Nv a fairwhile to catchup. Also, they're ashamed, 'cos ATI's 16 pipelines shit on their 24 piplines. So, this is away of saving red faces at Nv's
Anyhow, here's the link to http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/40689 regarding Nv shills

 

[Ser-J]

All this is becoming really interesting.

 

[edgy1]

I get tired of the ongoing spin doctoring. ATI and NVIDIA are both guilty of it. Pick the benchmarks that best serve your product, build a power point presentation with tons of techy looking graphics, and waste bandwidth disseminating it.

This generation is almost an apples to oranges contest, anyway. Good luck finding a NVIDIA GTX 512MB (Talk about paper launches)... and if you find one expect to pay a premium!! I just took a look on Ebay (not the greatest source, but one of the only ones where you'll find this rare beast) and people are asking over $900US. Now consider buying four of these (+another new mobo) for quad SLI. Yeah... the kid can go without diapers and formula for the next couple months.

Checking out Newegg I find the 1900xtx selling for $509-559US. Hmmm.... I could almost buy two of them for the price of one of the NVIDIA cards... but then I need that damn new mobo again!

Wait a few months. By then the NVIDIA 178000 will be out (this is sarcasm) with 40 bazillion gigaflops throughput, able to run on 64 wide screens at 1020p, in a proprietory 3d holographic visual format (NVIDIA SuperDupervision). At only $3000 a piece it'll be a steal (ok... stealing is the only way I'd be able to afford it ). And you can buy 15 other cards in order to really experience graphics as they were supposed to be. "NVIDIA®: The way it's meant to be lived". (I took some artistic license with that).

In the ATI camp will be the new 27000 XTX STi AWD AM/FM Mega Toxic AVENGER (the advertising boys decided to be subtle that day). It'll sport 2 petabytes (oh, a petabyte, how cute. Can I have one?) of DDRXXII super overclocked mega RAM. You'll be able to shut off your furnace on cold Canadian winters (yes, it's true... we do live in igloos up here) and will even be able to turn on your a/c. But talk about immersive... I won't even have to leave my living room to experience a moose (substitute a horse/emu/zebra depending on country of origin). And by then the new Creative Smellavision Deluxe Rotisserie Edition will be available. That adds a whole new dimension to the whole moose/horse/emu/zebra thing.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for technology, I'm just (no longer) a zealot. Past a point, real life sets in. The inexorable quest for every FPS is put aside and reality hits (Oh no... sounds like pre-midlife). I'm happy with my second generation crap. Amazingly, it runs all current games and likely will for the forseeable future. By the way I have two systems (one with ATI, one with NVIDIA).

I'll leave it to the fanboys to lead (and finance) the technological charge. I can't afford the time or effort anymore.

Sorry about the rant. I've had one too many of these wonderful presentations.

 

[W1zzard]

Somehow I cant help but believe Techpowerup.com is creating these slides to drive traffic to their site. Does no one notice how similar all of these slides are to eachother?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/X1900LaunchAnalysis/1

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/WhatToExpect/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/NVDesperate/2

Maybe I'm just paranoid... anyhoo, for safe measure I figured it wouldn't hurt to Email these links to ATI and Nvidia PR reps.

thank for driving ati and nvidia corporate traffic to this site

and you think ati or nvidia do not know that slides got posted here? why did nvidias lawyers call me when i posted stuff? i think i have better things to do with my time than make slides... maybe this is a business opportunity .. start pumping out slides and soon start working as external marketing consultant for several manufacturers.

 

[Dreamchaser]

Now, that's good to hear that you standup for yourself and said something about it. Just one idiot can cause troubles later on

 

[OBR]

Somehow I cant help but believe Techpowerup.com is creating these slides to drive traffic to their site. Does no one notice how similar all of these slides are to eachother?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/X1900LaunchAnalysis/1

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/WhatToExpect/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/NVDesperate/2

Maybe I'm just paranoid... anyhoo, for safe measure I figured it wouldn't hurt to Email these links to ATI and Nvidia PR reps.

I AM SURE, author of all of this is the same person! Maybe Wizzard?

 

[zOaib]

I get tired of the ongoing spin doctoring. ATI and NVIDIA are both guilty of it. Pick the benchmarks that best serve your product, build a power point presentation with tons of techy looking graphics, and waste bandwidth disseminating it.

This generation is almost an apples to oranges contest, anyway. Good luck finding a NVIDIA GTX 512MB (Talk about paper launches)... and if you find one expect to pay a premium!! I just took a look on Ebay (not the greatest source, but one of the only ones where you'll find this rare beast) and people are asking over $900US. Now consider buying four of these (+another new mobo) for quad SLI. Yeah... the kid can go without diapers and formula for the next couple months.

Checking out Newegg I find the 1900xtx selling for $509-559US. Hmmm.... I could almost buy two of them for the price of one of the NVIDIA cards... but then I need that damn new mobo again!

Wait a few months. By then the NVIDIA 178000 will be out (this is sarcasm) with 40 bazillion gigaflops throughput, able to run on 64 wide screens at 1020p, in a proprietory 3d holographic visual format (NVIDIA SuperDupervision). At only $3000 a piece it'll be a steal (ok... stealing is the only way I'd be able to afford it ). And you can buy 15 other cards in order to really experience graphics as they were supposed to be. "NVIDIA®: The way it's meant to be lived". (I took some artistic license with that).

In the ATI camp will be the new 27000 XTX STi AWD AM/FM Mega Toxic AVENGER (the advertising boys decided to be subtle that day). It'll sport 2 petabytes (oh, a petabyte, how cute. Can I have one?) of DDRXXII super overclocked mega RAM. You'll be able to shut off your furnace on cold Canadian winters (yes, it's true... we do live in igloos up here) and will even be able to turn on your a/c. But talk about immersive... I won't even have to leave my living room to experience a moose (substitute a horse/emu/zebra depending on country of origin). And by then the new Creative Smellavision Deluxe Rotisserie Edition will be available. That adds a whole new dimension to the whole moose/horse/emu/zebra thing.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for technology, I'm just (no longer) a zealot. Past a point, real life sets in. The inexorable quest for every FPS is put aside and reality hits (Oh no... sounds like pre-midlife). I'm happy with my second generation crap. Amazingly, it runs all current games and likely will for the forseeable future. By the way I have two systems (one with ATI, one with NVIDIA).

I'll leave it to the fanboys to lead (and finance) the technological charge. I can't afford the time or effort anymore.

Sorry about the rant. I've had one too many of these wonderful presentations.

thats a good rant !

 

[W1zzard]

I AM SURE, author of all of this is the same person! Maybe Wizzard?

did you read my reply three posts above yours?