X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[Unregistered]

Hello Folks,

After installing Catalyst 5.10 Driver, my system sees X800GTO2 as:
Adapter: RADEON X800/X850 Series
Chipset: RADEON X850 Pro (0x5D4F)

with Catalyst 5.09 Driver,
Adapter: RADEON X850 Series
Chipset: ATI display adapter (0x5D4F)

what gives?
what drivers are you using guys?

Same issue here.

 

[ShadowFlare]

Here's the ramsinks I installed temporarily.

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They haven't seemed to make a difference so far. I need a new PSU (or at least a PCI-E Connector that gives me all 6 pins instead of the 3 that the stock adapter does) and some better cooling. Then I can really do some heavy OC work

You only have the ramsinks on the memory chips on the back, correct? It probably won't help one bit with your memory overclock if you do not have all 8 of the chips cooled down. As long as at least 1 chip isn't being cooled, your max overclock will likely be the same as if none of them had any cooling.

Hello Folks,

After installing Catalyst 5.10 Driver, my system sees X800GTO2 as:
Adapter: RADEON X800/X850 Series
Chipset: RADEON X850 Pro (0x5D4F)

with Catalyst 5.09 Driver,
Adapter: RADEON X850 Series
Chipset: ATI display adapter (0x5D4F)

what gives?
what drivers are you using guys?

Did you use the modified bios W1zzard posted? I didn't (I used the 3 step method I have posted) and mine is always detected as RADEON X800 GTO.


W1zzard: What card did you get that bios from? A very early GTO2? It seems to be different than the standard GTO2 bios besides just the pipelines.

 

[W1zzard]

yup early gto².. email me the newer bios you have if you can

 

[ShadowFlare]

OK, I've sent my bios to your e-mail address.

BTW, what is the date on that bios? I think mine was 8/23/2005.

 

[narjisse]

Did you use the modified bios W1zzard posted?

Yes, I thought that's the bios everyone is using

I didn't (I used the 3 step method I have posted) and mine is always detected as RADEON X800 GTO.

Can you provide a link for that 3 step method? This thread got too long and hard to find it.
Thanks.

 

[DanishDevil]

Nice overclock, is it still running stable?

Yes, it is VERY stable Stands Aquamark3 and 3DMark05 looping for an hour each. Temps don't go above 59C on the stock cooler. I hope to order a ZALMAN within the next week.

Elaboration on OMEGA Drivers coming soon.

 

[DanishDevil]

New OC speed. 522/618

Thermal tape on rear RamSinks finally set in. Clock is stable. Any higher on core or memory produces artifacts in ATiTool.

PS: I do not set clocks that produce ANY artifacts WHATSOEVER.

 

[Dr.D]

Recommend me a zalman cooler!

 

[DanishDevil]

Recommend me a zalman cooler!

Hey hey hey, don't get pushy now Dr.D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118125

That guy will cool our cards damn well.

Also get some of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835110108

Use Arctic Silver 5 on the Zalman Cooler, and the pre-applied thermal tape on the RamSinks. Do what you wish with the Zalman RamSinks. The copper Vantecs will cool much better than the Zalman ones.

Be sure to try to get the direction of the airflow to flow through the grooves in the RamSinks to ensure the heat is radiated into the air from the RamSinks. I'll hopefully have these 2 items installed in a week and I'll have pics for you guys.

 

[DanishDevil]

Sapphire X800GTO2 on Omega 2.6.71 Drivers

OK boys, here's what you all (or at least Dr.D) have been waiting for:

First things first:

My computer SPECS:

• Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm Winchester Core (Zalman CNPS9500LED @ Full Speed)
• Power Supply: ULTRA X-Connect UV Orange 500Watt
• Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4/SLI (SLI Version of the MSI K8N Diamond)(Vantec Iceberq Copper Cooler)
• Random Access Memory: 2x512MB OCZ Gold PC3200 2-2-2-5 Winbond BH5 (Gold Plated Copper Heatspreaders)
• Video Card: Sapphire X800GTO2 (Modded 16 Pipeline TechPowerUp BIOS @ 522/618 on stock cooling&Arctic Silver 5&4x ThermalRight V-1 Aluminum RamSinks on rear)
• Hard Drive: Western Digital 10,000RPM 74GB RAPTOR
• Sound Card: SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS
• Case: ThermalTake Armor Black SuperTower Case
• Cooling: 2x120MM Blue LED 17DBA Fans(1 Intake, 1 Exhaust), 2x92MM Orange/Black 19DBA Fans(Exhaust), 2x80MM Orange UV Reactive PSU Fans(Exhaust)
• Keyboarrd/Mouse: Logitech Media Keyboard / Logitech MX510 Blue
• Monitor: Dell Flat Screen Trinitron Monitor (Max 100MHz Refresh, Max Res. 1600x1200)

*All clocks stock unless noted above*

Sapphire X800GTO2 on Omega 2.6.71 Drivers (16 Pipelines Unlocked with the BIOS from the Article and clocked at 522/618 with stock cooling, Arctic Silver 5, and Thermalright V-1 Aluminum RamSinks on the rear memory chips)

The version of ATi Tray Tools that comes with the Omega Drivers read my card as an X850:

I just installed the new version of ATi Tray Tools:

And it read my card as an X800GTO.

Just some interesting tidbits of information. I think that they are programming recognition of the X800GTO BIOSes in new software. In case some of you were wondering, this is what Device Manager says:

I've got GREAT drawing skills with my mouse don't I?

One other interesting thing to point out. I have an MSI motherboard which comes with MSI Live Update 3. Its job is to provide automatic updates to the Motherboard BIOS, Drivers, and the BIOS and drivers of Video Cards, and updates to MSI Utilities (which suck, HARD). Anyway, these are the options that Live Update 3 gave me for Video Card drivers:

No, my card is not made by MSI, it's just interesting to see the possibilites of BIOSes that the program recommends. I may try these out sometime. I'm not making any promises though.

Anyway, I got to AquaMark 3. The first run was taken with Omega's integrated Direct 3D "Benchmarks" profile (really part of ATi Tray Tools) as seen here:

Here is AquaMark 3:

I also ran AquaMark 3 at ALL settings maxed at 1600x1200. Here is the directory where you can find the shots. I think you will enjoy them. 20 screenshots, 40MBs. PS: Temps didn't go over 60C while I was running AquaMark3 for these shots.

The rest can be found here:
http://www.nbpdexplorers.com/DANISH/TechPowerUp Pics/AquaMark 3/

OK, now onto 3DMark05:

I ran it with the Benchmark setting, and this is what I came up with:

Not too shabby of a score is it? Temps never broke 56C

Here are some shots taken with ultra settings like I did in AquaMark 3. Temps did not go over 63C. 45 pics, 24MB. *cough*Can you say HDR?*cough*

The rest can be found here:
http://www.nbpdexplorers.com/DANISH/TechPowerUp Pics/3DMARK05/

Well, this concludes my extensive examination of the Omega 2.6.71 Drivers. I love ATi Tray Tools, and will never get rid of it now that the Omegas have exposed me to the program. I also now love 3DMARK05. As you can tell from the Ultra Quality screenshots, this is a truly amazing benchmarking program. I regret not using that $10 off coupon on 3DMARK05 Advanced now Oh well. Overall, I love the Omega drivers. Soon, I will make some graphs to show how they stack up to the other major drivers out there (Catalyst and DNA Drivers).

Coming soon: Extensive review of Catalyst 5.10

Until next time,
-=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

 

[Qtax]

Not that i really mind, but do we need all the 1600 screenshots here?
Ordered an Connect3D GTO and will tell you how it works out when it arrives, hopefully another success.
Day after i ordered they lowered the price 20€, bleh... (Lowest price right now at 180€ here in Sweden.)

 

[DanishDevil]

Not that i really mind, but do we need all the 1600 screenshots here?
Ordered an Connect3D GTO and will tell you how it works out when it arrives, hopefully another success.
Day after i ordered they lowered the price 20€, bleh... (Lowest price right now at 180€ here in Sweden.)

I simply wanted to give people an in-depth review of the card's capabilities. I apologize if you have dial-up and it crashed your system

Lol, I had second thoughts about posting the shots there, but the post looks so goddamn hot after I posted it, that I said, "Nahh, Dr.D would be disappointed if I did."

I also got jacked pricewise. I bought my X800GTO2 for $230 and it's $200 now. I might have to pick another up. DAMN I wish I could harness a kind of ATi SLI on this mobo of mine

 

[DanishDevil]

Hey hey hey, don't get pushy now Dr.D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118125

That guy will cool our cards damn well.

Also get some of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835110108

Use Arctic Silver 5 on the Zalman Cooler, and the pre-applied thermal tape on the RamSinks. Do what you wish with the Zalman RamSinks. The copper Vantecs will cool much better than the Zalman ones.

Be sure to try to get the direction of the airflow to flow through the grooves in the RamSinks to ensure the heat is radiated into the air from the RamSinks. I'll hopefully have these 2 items installed in a week and I'll have pics for you guys.

Found a cheaper price:

http://www.xoxide.com/zalman-vf700culed-vga-cooler.html

For some reason though, Xoxide discontinued EVERY RamSink they carry. You'll only save a couple bucks by buying them from another place besides newegg, so I'm gonna get them from there.

PS: I was a noob, and attached some Zalman RamSinks on my old ATI AIW9600XT with my Zalman HP Blue Anodized Aluminum cooler with AS5 instead of the thermal tape about 2 years ago. Would anybody be willing to use some Vantec Copper BGA RamSinks and test MAX OCs with AS5 vs Thermal Tape vs Arctic Alumina on these? If not, I'll buy two packs or so and compare thermal tape, AS5, and Arctic Alumina.

 

[Dr.D]

Thanks alot

Great posts! I can't wait for those graphs!

 

[RatusNatus]

Guys! Finaly i want to know if anyone sucseded in unlocking pipes on:

GeCube 256Mb PCI-E ATI Radeon X800GTO (GC-RX800GTO3-D3)
Sapphire 256Mb PCI-E Radeon X800GTO DDR

plz tell me.

GeCube dosnt have a external power connector, so it wont have a good oc.

I want to know if someone has the 16p in a Powercolor GTO cus all of it has a r480 core...

What about open a new threat to a connect3d?

 

[psxcrazy]

sometimes artifacts sometimes not

Can someone help me i was excited casue i got my gto2 to oc at 540 610 artifact free for 5 minutes that i ran than all was fine for a few days then i started getting artifacts and hickups im my games and know i can only oc it to 540 550 without artifacts could it be a drive thing or software i just dont understand my card doesnt even go past 60 C on scan and about 55 playing game i just dont understand

 

[ShadowFlare]

Can someone help me i was excited casue i got my gto2 to oc at 540 610 artifact free for 5 minutes that i ran than all was fine for a few days then i started getting artifacts and hickups im my games and know i can only oc it to 540 550 without artifacts could it be a drive thing or software i just dont understand my card doesnt even go past 60 C on scan and about 55 playing game i just dont understand

You should test for the final speed for more than 5 minutes, in my opinion. I think it should be tested for 10 or more minutes. It could be possible that you messed up the memory by having it overclocked too high for too long... That memory is rated for 600 MHz, but needs adaquate cooling to be stable at that speed.

 

[Qtax]

GeCube dosnt have a external power connector, so it wont have a good oc.

I want to know if someone has the 16p in a Powercolor GTO cus all of it has a r480 core...

You can't unlock them, only GTO2 and Connect3D GTO are unlockable. It's all in the article.
I think you can confirm this here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367

 

[DanishDevil]

You should test for the final speed for more than 5 minutes, in my opinion. I think it should be tested for 10 or more minutes. It could be possible that you messed up the memory by having it overclocked too high for too long... That memory is rated for 600 MHz, but needs adaquate cooling to be stable at that speed.

I agree. Cooling is required for OCing, and running a chip or ram at too high of a frequency CAN mess it up pretty bad.

Thanks alot

Great posts! I can't wait for those graphs!

Can't you tell I yearn to be a product reviewer? I've always dreamed of being sent brand new hardware to review. That review took me all of 4 hours.

 

[Trevor]

Ugh..
I don't know how you guys are getting such amazing temps.
I'm getting 70 load, WITH a Zalman cooler, and only running 540/580.
No ramsinks on half of the RAM (But half of them I do have them on.
Using AS5.
I'm going to remount it.. but I really don't believe that to be the problem.

Any ideas?
Also, overclock dropped SUBSTANTIALLY.
I believe with lower temps I'd have a lot higher headroom.

And, I had the issue of post-flash having the card literally shut off whenever it got too high, rather than simply than clocking back down.

Going to flash to original BIOS, see if the problem (with shutting off) still exists. If it does...
then I don't know.

If it does, then I know there's a problem BIOS/otherwise.

Who knows.

--Trevor

 

[ericlikeseatin]

does anyone know if other GTO cards will work? im particularly interested in this card here because its the only GTO for AGP there seems to be.

 

[Trevor]

Ok.
Flashed back to the ORGINAL 12P BIOS, and I CAN hit the original speeds (575/610)

But whenever I flash to the 16P BIOS, I can only hit 540/580.
An ideas, at all?

 

[GreenBaron]

Brands...

You can't unlock them, only GTO2 and Connect3D GTO are unlockable. It's all in the article.
I think you can confirm this here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367

Statements like this do not aid the spirit of adventure of the overclocker. It was not very long ago that the Connect3D was not even mentioned in the main article. It has been included because of pioneers that TESTED and took a chance.

With the variety of chips used in the various brand's GTO cards, there is mixed success. I have not heard of any successful mods of the HIS, Powercolor, or Gecube brands. I have heard of some confirmed DID NOT work on these brands.

However, the Sapphire GTO (not the GTO2) has at least one positive report on this very forum that the 16p mod worked. There are others that the Sap-16p did not work...

The article shows the state of what is KNOWN, but does not rule out the possibility of other combinations. That is precisely what this forum is for. If anyone has even NEGATIVE reports of mod attempts on other GTO brands, please post. The more information, the better the conclusions.

We're weak on AGP reports. Other brands may work better if VIVO is used (this seems to be an odd common thread -- ATI VIVO cards unlock better).

-GB
Get my Connect3D GTO tomorrow.... I will report.

 

[DanishDevil]

does anyone know if other GTO cards will work? im particularly interested in this card here because its the only GTO for AGP there seems to be.

Take a chance. Doesn't seem like anybody has succesfully modded an AGP card yet.

 

[feeric]

Ok.
Flashed back to the ORGINAL 12P BIOS, and I CAN hit the original speeds (575/610)

But whenever I flash to the 16P BIOS, I can only hit 540/580.
An ideas, at all?

I have same problem, 545/602@12P and 513/602@16P

I think the quad pipe activated is the worst off the four and it limit the max core OC.