X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[kohan69]

ALL NOOBS GO HERE:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1114939#post1114939

 

[DanishDevil]

i tried for the armor devil its the sweetest case i could find but its around 100 english pounds so its over my badget now damn i drool just looking at that case i got a coolermaster centurion its good enough for now. im running the stock cooler on my c3gto at 520 520 the core is 38C idle and 60 under load and im tryin to get a new fan to replace the stock one, do u guys think the zalman vf700 alcu is better ot the arctic cooling ati silencer 5 rev 2?im leaning towards the arctic cooling for now any suggestions?

Get the Zalman unless you're a guy with bad case ventilation. The Zalman will outperform the AC in every test unless you need to get rid of hot air anyway (which you wouldn't want surrounding your card anyway).

 

[tigergenerals]

Nuts, the Zalman won't fit with my card and particular motherboard!

And for some reason my temps stay pretty high even at default. I'm at 61 right now at default settings... what temp should I ease off at?

When I was doing artifact checks, it would get up to 80 C. Any help?

 

[omega_prime]

Put your memory to 565, then test your core going up from 550. You might get lucky at 555 or 560. Your memory should be good at 565, let me know, good luck!

so ... did another try with he zalman at 7v ... it don't look good. i can't put the memory over 550 ...
but hey ... a card for 170 Euros which runs on 16 pipelines and 550/540 is just fine
i didn't look whether i can o/c the core further .. .i will test this later ...

 

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

C3D gto findings

Im gonna start with something important:
I studied the original mod article closely prior to makin mods, but Im pretty sure that nowhere did it say I had to set my C3D's fan to permanently 100% using Ati Tool!!!

I would have deemed this erm, Rather Important, seeing as my card ran at 80oC prior to the above mod!, it now runs at half that!!!

Is anyone getting corruption in the cat control centre?, ie. the little red racing car animation
Mines looks like its being drawn in two different positions, alternately, & some of the road is up in the sky!!! lol.

its really strange, cos all my games play absolutely spot on now, with the exception of some older titles, ie Americas Army- Bridge Map, MotoGp1

Games that I like which exhibit absolutely no corruption on the system are...
Battlefield2
Americas Army 2.5 (All Maps except the bridge ones)
Need4Speed- Most Wanted
F.E.A.R.

I cant decide whether the card is 'fried' in some way or is it because Im on .net 2.0 instead of 1.1 (for CCC I mean) or is it issues between the motherboard & Grphx card

Another wierd one is that the latest version of CPU-z reads my memory as running at 133 Mhz :shadedshu

I'd be greatful for 'ANY' ideas from anyone who has this or a similar setup...

My System...
Ath64 Venice @ 2 Gig Not o/c
Asrock Dual Sata 2
Connect3D Gto on 16 pipe original bios 'rabit'ed to 500/500 (never gets above 60oC now/ Fan @ 100% via Ati Tool)
512mb of rather crappy PC3200 memory
WD Raptor 74Gb

 

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

Nuts, the Zalman won't fit with my card and particular motherboard!

And for some reason my temps stay pretty high even at default. I'm at 61 right now at default settings... what temp should I ease off at?

When I was doing artifact checks, it would get up to 80 C. Any help?

Yeah, I got caught with this too man, Ati Tool>Fan Control>100% Pleeeese!
Problem solved... but is the damage done?

Hey man, is the little car in Cat Control Centre displaying correctly? lol

 

[tigergenerals]

Yeah, I got caught with this too man, Ati Tool>Fan Control>100% Pleeeese!
Problem solved... but is the damage done?

Hey man, is the little car in Cat Control Centre displaying correctly? lol

I don't think I saw that fan thing, I will be sure to try it. That would help out a lot. In that case, should I also try to bump up my case fan to 100% as well? It gets freak loud.

The car runs fine in Catalyst. I have done artifact checks, and no errors. I don't think my card is fried... I only had lock ups when I was toying with the mem above 570 with the core at 520. I'll probably drop both by 20 to be on the safe side.

What's the default XT PE clocks again?

And does changing the speeds in ATI Tool keep the clock? Cause in Catalyst Graphics Hardware properties, it still says I'm at defaul 400/490 speeds.

Thanks.

 

[blsnelling]

540/590 I believe.

 

[VTwedge]

i think its 540/560

 

[anomen]

I don't think I saw that fan thing, I will be sure to try it. That would help out a lot. In that case, should I also try to bump up my case fan to 100% as well? It gets freak loud.

The fan properties are under Settings -> Fan Control

Crank up your case fans if you need. I'd really only recommend it during intense 3D action, ie game-time, cause for normal computer use, ie surfing and pr0n, your computer shouldn't be working that hard and generating much heat anyway.

What's the default XT PE clocks again?

default clocks can be found on page 1 of this thread:
standard clocks of 400 Mhz core and 490 Mhz memory
XT speeds of 520 MHz / 540 MHz
XT PE speeds of 540 Mhz core and 590 MHz memory

 

[ShadowFlare]

X800 XT PE is 520/560
X850 XT PE is 540/590

 

[VTwedge]

shadowflare is right as always lol

 

[tigergenerals]

X800 XT PE is 520/560
X850 XT PE is 540/590

Any advantages to flashing to X800 XT PE bios or X850 XT PE bios?

Drawbacks?

 

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

Any advantages to flashing to X800 XT PE bios or X850 XT PE bios?

Drawbacks?

If its a Sapphire Gto2 yes, if its a C3D Gto erm, nah, I wouldnt b doin that, cos of slower 2.0ns memory on later...
From wot Ive read you'll get corruption city on C3D with anything other than powercolor x800xt bios which is rated for 2.0ns memory

 

[DanishDevil]

I keep getting this gay message like .net framework has caught an unexpected error. I'll post a pic on here in a second.

 

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

I keep getting this gay message like .net framework has caught an unexpected error. I'll post a pic on here in a second.

Oh Really!, My card is great apart from this in cat control centre...

see attached jpg

 

[DanishDevil]

I think it has something to do with my Videora program (converts movies to the ipod video format). Here is the shot:

and the test of the Details:

See the end of this message for details on invoking 
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at VideoraConverter.02a04fb4e6760e36.1274e629368eaa38(String cdaeea7afaf570ff)
   at VideoraConverter.02a04fb4e6760e36.1bf5e5805116330e(Object e0292b9ed559da7d, EventArgs fbf34718e704c6bc)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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VideoraConverter
    Assembly Version: 1.0.2141.24358
    Win32 Version: 1.0.2141.24358
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/VideoraiPodConverter/VideoraiPodConverter.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
VideoraUI.Controls.ListViewEx
    Assembly Version: 1.0.2084.32710
    Win32 Version: 1.0.2084.32710
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/VideoraiPodConverter/VideoraUI.Controls.ListViewEx.DLL
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PieChart
    Assembly Version: 1.2.0.3
    Win32 Version: 1.2.0.3
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/VideoraiPodConverter/PieChart.DLL
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System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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    Assembly Version: 1.0.2141.24358
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

If I try to continue, I get another error like that that messes up videora, and if I quit, everything seems to be fine. Hasn't really caused problems except I have to click quit every goddamn time. I have manually removed .Net Framework 1.1 and 2.0 and windows updated them, and it didn't help. I'mma try reinstalling videora now. I'll let u all kno if it helps.

 

[DanishDevil]

OK I just reinstalled videora, so no worries it's all working well. I'm not sure what the whole problem is with CCC tho.

Is there any way to force 0x AA and AF instead of app controlled thru CCC?

 

[traveler]

Any advantages to flashing to X800 XT PE bios or X850 XT PE bios?

Drawbacks?

How about a survey on what people think is the optimal flashing strategy for the GTO2?

1) Original article method with Flashrom and the linked bios, enabling all 16 pipelines, keeping default clock speeds. OC manually when desired.
2) Two step flash method using ATIFlash, 1st step enabling all 16 pipes, 2nd step going back to the original bios but with all 16 pipes remaining enabled. This also keeps default clock speeds. OC manually when desired.
3) Flash to x850XT or x850XTPE bios. This enables all 16 pipes and defaults to higher clock speeds, but seems to mess up stock cooling. It is also necessary to customize the bin file with Rabit if using Sapphire bios to disable VIVO which is part of Sapphire’s x850XT cards but not on the GTO2
4) Some other permutation. For example, I’m used the first method, but after verifying OC capability on my card, modified the linked bios with Rabit to default to x850XT clock speeds and re-flashed. Card appears to run at 45C idle and <60C under moderate load with stock (automatically adjusting) cooling.

 

[DanishDevil]

I have done some tests on some of the Catalyst Control Center 3D Options. Click the link below to download the Word Document.

ATi Catalyst Control Center Tests

Enjoy!

-=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

 

[Ombracol]

I dont know about others but i get A higher oc using the x850 xtpe bios
What do you guys know about the crossfire bios think that would work ? I've heard croosfire uses software diferent
from nvidia witch is hardware enabled

 

[DanishDevil]

Crossfire cards versus regular cards (referred to as "slave" cards in crossfire) have a different back panel connector. Therefore, you cannot flash a non-crossfire card to a crossfire bios.

I might try out the X850XTPE BIOS. My core won't handle 540 though.

 

[Dr.D]

Alright I wanted to post my my specs in hope of finding more about tempratures

System:(Dell 8400 )
P4 530@3.0Ghz
160GB HD
1GB DDR2 533
X800GTO2 (Use to be X300SE )
2 DVD drives
350W PSU

3DMark05 Scores:
X300SE - 1118
X800GTO2 Stock - 4405
X800GTO2 Unlocked - 4913

Tempratures:
X300SE - Unknown
X800GTO2 Stock - Forgot

X800GTO2 Unlocked:
39-43C Idle
63C Max while playing games

Any thoughts on my tempratures? Should they be lower? Are they fine? Average? Comment on anything else if you like

-Thanks

 

[Dynamic]

That load temp is fine, but are you using the fan control on ATI TOOL? You should use the fix function when you load games. Sound like you're using it because if you weren't then you temp would of hit around 70c. I got a Zalman VF700-cu and my idle/load temps are 30/55.

 

[Dr.D]

That load temp is fine, but are you using the fan control on ATI TOOL? You should use the fix function when you load games. Sound like you're using it because if you weren't then you temp would of hit around 70c. I got a Zalman VF700-cu and my idle/load temps are 30/55.

Yeah I am using it, I have it set so my fan is 100% all the time