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X800 Pro VIVO to XT PE Bios Mod

PhAnToM

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Ok so I bought a X850 Pro AGP and a Zalman VF700-Cu today. My max core is 560, however my max mem is only 560. I've seen other people's mem go way over their max core, what am I doing wrong? Right now I have my card flashed to X850 XT specs and is running stable and at about 40 degrees idle.

Sorry, I meant 560 max mem. If I go much beyond 560 I start to get artifacts :(.
 
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PhAnToM said:
Ok so I bought a X850 Pro AGP and a Zalman VF700-Cu today. My max core is 560, however my max mem is only 560. I've seen other people's mem go way over their max core, what am I doing wrong? Right now I have my card flashed to X850 XT specs and is running stable and at about 40 degrees idle.

Sorry, I meant 560 max mem. If I go much beyond 560 I start to get artifacts :(.

If 560 is where the celing on your memory.
Leave it there, Set your core to 520 or 525 whichever you want.
Check for any odd looking colors on the monitor.
If everything is good, leave it where you set it.
You are going from a 850 Pro to the XT pe, that is a great jump in performance.
You have done nothing wrong. Every card has different max mhz on the memory.
Some may go higher, some may not even reach where you are.
Count your blessings and stay where you are.
 

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It's really weird but I tried to find my max memory again afterwards and got up to 585. The thing is, while everything is perfect when I use the X850XT bios, when I switch to the X850XTPE bios games won't start and 3DMark05 won't recognize my card. I haven't seen any artifacts so far with 560 core and 585 memory. 16 pipes have been unlocked and I'm running at 40 degrees idle and about 65 max load. Maybe there's something wrong with the bios on the bios page?
 

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PhAnToM said:
It's really weird but I tried to find my max memory again afterwards and got up to 585. The thing is, while everything is perfect when I use the X850XT bios, when I switch to the X850XTPE bios games won't start and 3DMark05 won't recognize my card. I haven't seen any artifacts so far with 560 core and 585 memory. 16 pipes have been unlocked and I'm running at 40 degrees idle and about 65 max load. Maybe there's something wrong with the bios on the bios page?

After you flashed to the X850 XT pe, did you completely install the 5.10 drivers again?
 

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102466&ATT=Video+Cards&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r
says it has VIVO but the reviews says it has laser cut so is it still modable?


yeah looks that way if u have it then u can see if it has a laser cut or not , if u dont , i'd recommend getting the asus x850 pro VIVO since newegg doesnt have the x800pro vivo in pci express asuming that its pci express card u r looking for , get the x850 pro vivo asus it wont le tu down not bad for the price either. 250 dollars somewhere around there ! ;)

p.s thx for the last tip DAN , i am running my asus x800pro at xt pe speeds and 16 pipes unlocked , although i did have the ati silencer 4 rev 2 at hand , which eventually i needed i didnt wanna run the card at 70 degrees C whenever i played now its at 51-55 c max load .......... very nice , thx !
 
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Glad I can be of help. :toast:

-Dan
 
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A little bit confused

I have read this large post now, and I have been looking specially for the ASUS AX850Pro Vivo with PCI-E. In the start of this thread from august 2004 it is mentioned that with modified flashrom program you can mod all AGP and PCI-E cards ! No matter it is a 800 or 850 card and where you bought it, but it must be a vivo card. Later reading I understand that there is problem with modding x850pro vivo with PCI-E. Since I'm a newbie but want to learn about this, I am reading this great thread with big interest, and thanks for all the posting. But I hope all of you can precise whether you are using a AGP or PCI-E card. I do believe many have been confused here ?
So is it still not possible to flash / mod a 850Pro vivo PCI-E to eg. xt or xt pe ? If not; the start of this thread should be edited because of confusing people. And again; Thanks for a grat forum !

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It seems that all the PCI-E versions have a on-die lock on them. So just because the laser cut is connected, you still can't seem to unlock the pipes. You can check to see if your card is moddable by going here.

-Dan
 

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Hi all,

I hope this thread is still getting viewed. I have a question for the successful flashers and/or the think tank involved with this BIOS flash. I bought an ATI X850 Pro VIVO AGP from Best Buy yesterday. It appears to be the exact same one that everyone else is buying. I have tried unsucessfully for the better part of this evening to unlock the extra 4 pipes but to this piont I am unsucessful. I have tried several different BIOS, I tried flashing the "empty.bin" first then the X850XTPE BIOS, I used the flashrom as well as the atiflash but every time I reboot after a flash, ATITool tells me I have only 12 active pipes. Can it be that I have an X850 Pro that can't be modded? The UPC sticker on the side of the box says "RAD X850XT AGP" and it has the yellow connector and I believe 16ns chips. I don't understand why it won't mod. I am using the -f command with the flashrom. Anybody have any ideas...?

Thanks in advance for any info/thoughts.

edit: I reinstalled the 5.9 Cats and ATITool after I posted this message but it didn't seem to make any difference. Still showing 12 pipelines. Just thought I would add that...
 

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Hey Racer-x I'm having the exact same problem as you. My card is ATi x850 pro with yellow connecter and rage theater chip with 1.6 memory.

On the box it doesn't say VIVO though, but it came with a video-in cable.

I flashed with the ATi XT and XTPE Bios's used ATiflash -newbois -f -p 0 xx.bin , I had the increase in speed core/mem but still only 12 pipes.

I'm getting an artic cooler so I'll get a look at the GPU when it arrives.
 
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Hello, I have just flashed my x850 PRO AGP from Comp USA. Yesterday!
Looks like you forgot to in clude the command "-newbios" to overwrite the ROM.
Try this then see if you have 16 Pipes. I do!!!!___:D
 

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I have tried every combination of flash tools/commands I can think of. According to the register dumps I am screwed:

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFE
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xa60

Apparently the "B" in the first fuse and the "E" at the end of the second means they are locked some other way than just the BIOS.

Maybe I will return the card for another. I have flashed the original BIOS back and it is working perfectly as a 12-pipe card right now. Of course now the question is do I gamble for another card that may unlock or do I just bite the bullet and order a true X850XT from Circuit City for $319 with free shipping? That one should do XTPE speeds, is a true 16-pipe card and has a better cooling solution but is also $70 more than what I paid for the Pro.
(Actually I just noticed that Best Buy has the BFG 6800GT OC for $299 this week. And it's in stock all around here. Too bad the XTPE will kill it in almost everything.)

Hmmm... now what?
 
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Racer X said:
I have tried every combination of flash tools/commands I can think of. According to the register dumps I am screwed:

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFE
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xa60

Apparently the "B" in the first fuse and the "E" at the end of the second means they are locked some other way than just the BIOS.

Maybe I will return the card for another. I have flashed the original BIOS back and it is working perfectly as a 12-pipe card right now. Of course now the question is do I gamble for another card that may unlock or do I just bite the bullet and order a true X850XT from Circuit City for $319 with free shipping? That one should do XTPE speeds, is a true 16-pipe card and has a better cooling solution but is also $70 more than what I paid for the Pro.
(Actually I just noticed that Best Buy has the BFG 6800GT OC for $299 this week. And it's in stock all around here. Too bad the XTPE will kill it in almost everything.)

Hmmm... now what?




I guess it does look like the Fuses have you blocked for unlocking.:mad:
Sorry to see that. You could try again, Thats up to you. Just trying to help.:)
 

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I'm having trouble getting 16 pipes 'read^up'

looks flashable though ?

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861

Maybe I'll try a different bios.
 
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Hello,
I used the ATI X850xt bios, with this command" atiflash -p -f -newbios 0 x850xt.bin".
After saving original! After verifing 16 pipes in ATItool, I reflashed with the original
bios with this command "atiflash -p -f 0 original.bin" To RESTORE CONTROL OF
DYNAMIC FAN FUNCTION. That did not work right after flash with the XT bios.;)
I hope this helps.:D
 
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VTwedge said:
well i left my core running at 450 and tried to overclock memory just for kicks, well the limit before was 520/520 now memory got pushed up to 565 before givin up instead of 520! thats 65 over the rated limit mind you;) time ti bench at 450/550 just to be safe hold on!;)
Hey,

Is tht a Connect3D X800GTO card you have, if it is and it has modded to 16 pipes then those are good clocks for a supposedly inferior core and memory. I sure hope you have a Connect3D as I will have one with me soon also

:)
 
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16 pipes not showing up...

Hey Racer X, if you read in some of the earlier posts you'll find this issue is already addressed. The 16 pipes won't show until you upgrade the driver. Try that, if you haven't already, and see if they show up. If not, let us know.

Hope this helps! I'm gonna take a close look at my ATI x850Pro when I get home to make sure I can unlock it. Keeping fingers crossed!

Annah
 

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Hello, This looks like an AGP x850 PRO? I have two of these cards, Both are running
16 pipes and 520/540 with NO PROBLEMS. Use ATITool to check registers.
 
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Connect 3D x800 Pro

Hi guys, i have a connect 3D x800 pro Vivo which i have currently flashed to the 16 pipe Bios. All works fine, all pipes unlocked and have had it like that for a few months now. I have tested the card to see if it can run at XT PE speeds and it runs fine without any artifacts. Would it be worth my while to flash it to a XT PE or just keep the bios that i got now and overclock to the XT PE speeds? Im not sure if it would make any difference speed wise? Any advice would be great, thankz.
 

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VIVO simply means video in video out. This means you could watch TV on your computer monitor. You could use the TV as your monitor. This is great for gaming.
I have flashed several cards for myself and others, friends, relatives etc.
So far I have never had a flash go bad with a video card.
 
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