Xeon Owners Club

[Capitan Harlock]

Strangely enough , after discovering that my i7 4820k is dead .
I found for a good price a Xeon E5 1650 V2 that is essentially a i7 4930k XD .
Can't wait to Oc it and see how it goes .
Gonna post as soon as it get's here in the next week.

 

[Edwired]

How ya managed to kill it?

 

[Capitan Harlock]

How ya managed to kill it?

I opened a thread about it. My pc not booting up after i turned it off and powering off the power strip where was connected .
After i turned the power strip back on the pc just didn't boot anymore.
Motherboard was trying to boot but nope . Its was like starting it without cpu.
So in the end that was last thing to consider .
I was running it at 4.5 ghz .
It was already a used Cpus that i got 3 years ago and was already being pushed up to 5ghz by the previous owner.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I opened a thread about it. My pc not booting up after i turned it off and powering off the power strip where was connected .
After i turned the power strip back on the pc just didn't boot anymore.
Motherboard was trying to boot but nope . Its was like starting it without cpu.
So in the end that was last thing to consider .
I was running it at 4.5 ghz .
It was already a used Cpus that i got 3 years ago and was already being pushed up to 5ghz by the previous owner.

So it was likely near burnt out and a light power surge pushed it over the edge. Your new Xeon will likely be more robust, but it would wise to be happy with 4.4ghz at no more that 1.375v. Anything more will render diminishing returns and cause long term damage.

 

[Edwired]

That why I don't buy used cpu by people who had it before though it be fun slapping the nuts off of the cpu then automatically sell it afterward it like a dodgy car sale person selling a car with heavy oil in the engine just to cover up the knocking noise and fill the gap in the piston rings then 10 miles later the engine gives up

 

[Capitan Harlock]

That why I don't buy used cpu by people who had it before though it be fun slapping the nuts off of the cpu then automatically sell it afterward it like a dodgy car sale person selling a car with heavy oil in the engine just to cover up the knocking noise and fill the gap in the piston rings then 10 miles later the engine gives up

Welp, it lasted 3 years and is the first time something like this happen to me.
This Xeon is not have been abused XD.

 

[HUSKIE]

@Capitan Harlock Life is boring if you didn't crank up that Xeon.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Well...Sabertooth X79 arrived today,seems like everything is working just fine,now I will need to replace that I7 3820 and get something more serious.....so far I have few options and price to performance is very important to me,so here is what I can get and for what prices:

1)Xeon 2650 V2(8c/16t)--------40€
2)I7 4930k (6c/12t OC)---------80€
3)Xeon 2680(8c/16t)-----------80€
4)Xeon 2687W(8/16t)---------100€
5)Xeon 2658 V2(10c/20t)-----100€


I am tempted to get that cheap 2650V2 and try a bit BCLK OC to see what can be achieved.....also that I7 4930k seems like OK price...If you guys have experience with any of those CPU's your suggestion will be very appreciated.......

 

[Grog6]

You will be disappointed, IMO.

I bought a 2650L v2 (10/20 cores), and was unable to bck overclock it much at all.
I got 2.6GHz out of a 2GHz chip; good, but not gameable.

I also bought a 1650v2 (6/12 cores), and it runs about the same as my 3930k, except much cooler.
It hits 4.6GHz with no problems, slightly lower voltage than the 3930k.
It would probably do 4.8 on water.

If you search this thread, there's a couple of guys that found 1680v2's for a decent price, and they're 8/16 cores, and OC as good as the 1650 I've got.

The biggest problem I found was that the Xeons max out the Memory at 1866MHz; the 3930k does 2400 no sweat.

16xx chips are unlocked multiplier, to whatever the turbo value is.
The 4930k will probably give you the best overclock, out of the list you gave.
The 26xx chips are a tougher OC.

I think you'll like the mobo; I've had one for years, and hadn't considered upgrading until this year.
At 4.6GHz, it's not much slower than the new intels; especially with the fixes for the various stuff.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

You will be disappointed, IMO.

I bought a 2650L v2 (10/20 cores), and was unable to bck overclock it much at all.
I got 2.6GHz out of a 2GHz chip; good, but not gameable.

I also bought a 1650v2 (6/12 cores), and it runs about the same as my 3930k, except much cooler.
It hits 4.6GHz with no problems, slightly lower voltage than the 3930k.
It would probably do 4.8 on water.

If you search this thread, there's a couple of guys that found 1680v2's for a decent price, and they're 8/16 cores, and OC as good as the 1650 I've got.

The biggest problem I found was that the Xeons max out the Memory at 1866MHz; the 3930k does 2400 no sweat.

16xx chips are unlocked multiplier, to whatever the turbo value is.
The 4930k will probably give you the best overclock, out of the list you gave.
The 26xx chips are a tougher OC.

I think you'll like the mobo; I've had one for years, and hadn't considered upgrading until this year.
At 4.6GHz, it's not much slower than the new intels; especially with the fixes for the various stuff.

Ohh I know I will loved this mobo....it's one of my dream boards....earlier this year I tried Ryzen 1700 and even if was fast CPU compared to my old X58 6core I didn't liked the B450 mobo it looked like a cheap toy and I flipped that configuration fast....so now I decided to go with the X79 as I find this board relatively cheap(110€ i7-3820 included)now I will only needed to see and find a good CPU for it...
P.S. 2650 V2 have base clock 2,6Ghz with turbo 3,4Ghz and I seeing some people did fairly good BCLK OC with that CPU.....

 

[Capitan Harlock]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_X79/HelpDesk_CPU/
This is the cpu supported on the Sabertooth and the 16xx v1 and 26xx v1 are not supported .
Get the V2 versions .
I got a Xeon E5 1650 v2 and i can't wait for it.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_X79/HelpDesk_CPU/
This is the cpu supported on the Sabertooth and the 16xx v1 and 26xx v1 are not supported .
Get the V2 versions .
I got a Xeon E5 1650 v2 and i can't wait for it.

I am well aware what CPU's working on this board....the problem is what CPU's I can find relatively cheap in my country....If I could I will go with the 1680 V2 or 2697 V2....but first one is 2 much expensive and second one ain't easy to find here....

 

[Grog6]

I got the processors I bought for $40; the 1680 was $200 last I looked.

I just wanted to mention my difficulties with the 26xx chips; with a 1650 being so cheap, and overclocking as well as my 3930k, it's worth trying.

If you can't get a 16xx chip, I'd go for the 4930k, as it's unlocked too.

My 3930k booted once at 5.1GHz and 250W on my Sabertooth board; I shut it down as fast as I noticed; it went to 100C really fast, lol.

Apparently, if you type a 3 digit number into the multiplier box, it goes to the highest available value, or 51 for my 3930k.
I think my finger bounced when I typed in 44, and typed 444 instead, and the bios went to 51.

It did boot all the way into Win7x64, so it's a kickass motherboard.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I got the processors I bought for $40; the 1680 was $200 last I looked.

I just wanted to mention my difficulties with the 26xx chips; with a 1650 being so cheap, and overclocking as well as my 3930k, it's worth trying.

If you can't get a 16xx chip, I'd go for the 4930k, as it's unlocked too.

My 3930k booted once at 5.1GHz and 250W on my Sabertooth board; I shut it down as fast as I noticed; it went to 100C really fast, lol.

Apparently, if you type a 3 digit number into the multiplier box, it goes to the highest available value, or 51 for my 3930k.
I think my finger bounced when I typed in 44, and typed 444 instead, and the bios went to 51.

It did boot all the way into Win7x64, so it's a kickass motherboard.

THX for advice I am not in a hurry and I still really love my old X58 that works perfectly and it does the job for me but yeah I was curious and wanted to try out X79 platform when opportunity arises...so now is here.... when it come's to the CPU still checking out prices and searching the web for other people experiences....

 

[Grog6]

The x5670 I put in my P6TD Deluxe is only about 10-15% slower than the 3930k at 4.6GHz.
And it's 6/12 cores too.

It runs a lot cooler than the i7-920 I had in it, and has a much better OC.

These Xeons were over $1000 when they were new; It's nice to breathe new life into these older boards, for almost no money.

 

[Edwired]

I suppose the board decided to do overshoot on vcore on the poor cpu causing it to an early grave that would be my guess as some people don't do the check for actual vcore on hardware level with dmm than rather using software to show vcore reading

 

[lexluthermiester]

I suppose the board decided to do overshoot on vcore on the poor cpu causing it to an early grave that would be my guess as some people don't do the check for actual vcore on hardware level with dmm than rather using software to show vcore reading

Not everyone has a multimeter or knows the right testing pads. The reality is that software readings(when calibrated correctly, and most are) have an error margin of +/- 1.5% which is more than reasonably accurate.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

The x5670 I put in my P6TD Deluxe is only about 10-15% slower than the 3930k at 4.6GHz.
And it's 6/12 cores too.

It runs a lot cooler than the i7-920 I had in it, and has a much better OC.

These Xeons were over $1000 when they were new; It's nice to breathe new life into these older boards, for almost no money.

Sure I know my beloved @E5645 OC on 4,2Ghz combined with the Asus P6X58D Premium board still doing great job,especially in gaming heaving no trouble at all to push RX 480 always at the max 100% of workload,I believe that this Xeons when they are properly OC can push to the limits even Vega56/64,GTX 1070TI,1080,1080TI maybe even RTX 2070 or RX 5700....

 

[Mr.Scott]

The reality is that software readings(when calibrated correctly, and most are) have an error margin of +/- 1.5% which is more than reasonably accurate.

I very seldom disagree with you on things, but this is crap.
Software is very poor at best for reading voltage on anything.

 

[Grog6]

Measuring 0.01V on a board with a switching power supply making 100+ amps is damn near impossible; there's some serious averaging going on.

A good ground is where?

Even the voltage drops on the cpu pins at this current level are huge, relatively.

 

[agent_x007]

The biggest problem I found was that the Xeons max out the Memory at 1866MHz; the 3930k does 2400 no sweat.

I got 2133MHz CL9 out of 32GB of mine though ?
2400MHz isn't stable, but that might be my X79 Sabertooth not being OC friendly enough.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Software is very poor at best for reading voltage on anything.

This has not been my experience. I do have a multimeter & oscilloscope and when I suspect a PSU/board issue, voltages are tested and compared to BIOS/software readouts. Most boards made within the last 15years have very good voltage regulation & monitoring functionality. They have to keep voltage within the tolerances specified by Intel/AMD. Passing on the data monitored to BIOS/software is more or less a trivial effort.

Measuring 0.01V on a board with a switching power supply making 100+ amps is damn near impossible; there's some serious averaging going on.

On the power lines straight from the PSU, this is somewhat true, but after the power is filtered through the VRM system and passed on to the socket, that story changes. Generally, the higher quality the board the better the line filtering is and the more stable the power stays within specs. OEM systems also generally do a good job on the power filtering side of things. It's common sense really, if they didn't stay within specs they would have a very serious problem with quality control. Most companies do not have such problems.

 

[Edwired]

Then on the Asus p5q deluxe the coils on the back of the board have the vcore going toward the CPU it should be similar on newer board it looks like cube coils

 

[lyra]

Hello everyone. I am back, long time no see.
Havent been doing much with computers much recently cause work got in the way. Sad times.
I have got my die hard amd fan friend to finally get an intel cpu and of course its a westmere xeon cause what else.
He got himself an x5670 and an evga x58 sli motherboard and its all up and running with an i7 920 but we cant work out how to update the bios on it. Does anyone have any experience with this board?

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Hi guys , update on the Xeon E5 1650 v2 , i got it yesterday i but can't even use it because my Asus p9x79 is dead too and despite i got a Msi x79a gd45 (4d) i can't use it.
I got a Xeon e5 1620 to use with the Msi mobo because was supported and cheap.
I update the bios to the latest version to not get any incompatibility but if i use slot 3 and 4 i get error code 67. I don't have any bent pin in the socket .
The ram modules are supported by the motherboard and are the same i have in my description of my main system . A kit 4x4gb 16gb ddr3 2133mhz from Gskill.
After that discovery the most annoying one was getting error A2 if i connect all my hard drives and the ssd to the sata ports .
In the end i contacted the dealer where i got the motherboard and is gonna test it and in case i'm gonna get a refund .
Just to be safe i'm send to him some picture too of the socket so is not gonna say i'm lying and stuff .
Gonna update as soon as i can get one of them running .