Xeon Owners Club

[alucasa]

Just download Blender. Download BMW benchmark scene and run it on CPU and GPU on two instances. It's a real world application. Doesn't get better than that.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Dual X5670 figures from
https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-x5670-dual-six-core-processor-benchmarks-review/

so using my same ( assumed ) figures of 40 for the board and 15 watts for extras

174 - 55 = 119

119/2 = 59.5 against my guess of 63 (post 1524)

60 watts at idle for my X5670 i reckon. plus or minus

 

[alucasa]

60watt at idle? Hmm.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Correct me if you think im wrong......i would like to think its lower but i am fearing not...

 

[alucasa]

I am thinking the CPUs were different back in time. I can't recall what I saw back then.

My i7-6700 rig I built on H110 mobo used 25watt on idle. My media rig I have on sale (haswell) uses 20watt on idle. This xeon rig I am using uses 50watt on idle due to extensive features that X99 chipset has. A CPU on idle hardly uses power.
At least, that is with relatively recent CPU.

I guess Intel did really suck at power control during Netburst and sometime afterwards. I mean an idle CPU sucking 60w is, to me at least, absurd.

 

[Bill_Bright]

My apologies for joining this thread so late, and double apologies for not even attempting to go back 61 pages of posts to catch up.

If mentioned before, I apologize a 3rd time but if you have a decent UPS with a LCD display and/or UPS monitoring software like APC's PowerChute, I have found they too are very accurate at reporting power consumption. Of course, they report the demand total of everything supported by the UPS. So if like me, you have your monitors and network gear connected to the UPS too, you have to subtract those figures to see how much the computer power supply is pulling. And of course, you need to take off another ~10 - 15w per hundred for the PSU's inefficiency too - but you have to do that with a traditional watt meter too.

I don't have any Xeon based computers under my care anymore so not really sure I really have a standing with you folks to even comment. But back in the day when we were putting together servers using Xeons, the clients couldn't care less about power consumption - especially at low to idle load levels. Xeons always were and still are intended for business class servers, not home gaming rigs. The word "game" is not mentioned here once. It was all about performance and heat generation (or rather, heat extraction). Power consumption was just a cost of doing business - which is tax deductible! And a server that's idle is not being utilized, or making money. So power consumption while taxed was the only concern in that area.

My point is, I agree that 50 to 60W at idle is absurd, but there is just no demand for Intel to make these server processors less thirsty at idle.

 

[FireFox]

Max load should be higher than Gaming load
Perhaps you mixed the pics up @Knoxx29 ????

I know that but for some reason and I double checked running Aida stability test power consumption is 311W.

so you'll have to take my word for it

Your words are more than enough

Knoxx's idle was very high as well.

I am using dynamic OC, minimum CPU downclock is 2.0GHz plus i have 2 CPUs 32nm which are power hungry and each one 4 cores = 8 and using a bus speed of 167, additional power come from the GPU,
even when my CPUs are in idle they work at a higher clock speed, normally the lower clock speed when a CPU it's in idle is 1.6GHz.

don't run Prime 95 either you don't want it crashing or bsod .....

Prime95 it's not a problem anymore, i have managed to run it without issues, running the version 26.6 the system doesn't crash

run the CPUZ bench but use the stress cpu button and run Valley at the same time. That will run everything at 100%.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[FireFox]

Running Prime95 power consumption is 400w and once again and for some weird reasons 451W while Gaming

Sorry for the double post.

 

[Recon-UK]

55 watt minimum.
197 watts max load

Gaming load 371 watts.


I'm making it up but i ber i'm not far off for my system.

 

[Dream0386]

Good evening.
I'm new here, I just found this forum.
First of all sorry for my language, I am French.
I just bought a used W3650 xeon. I proceeded to overclocking, I would like your opinion.
Overclocking to 4522 MHz with vcore of 1.36V. (133x34). RAM = 1600 Mhz. UCLK = 3200 MHz. What do you think ?
I can not go higher because of the temperature. The maximum global temperature is 69 ° after one hour OCCT in Linpack mode.
I have a CPU PLL = 1.8V, and QPI / VTT = 1.18V

How can I do to lower the temperature and increase further overclocking this CPU?

 

[dorsetknob]

what /which CPU cooler you useing ????

 

[m1919]

Off the top of my head, gaming load subtracting 80W or so from my monitors is around 380W.

Full load on all cores with HT enabled and GPU is about 600W I believe. This was testing before my Seasonic X760 died. Running an EVGA Supernova 850P2 so I expect the numbers are a bit lower now.

Idle is pretty bad, around 150 or 160W from what I remember last, but I have a Corsair 800D... so lots of fans and 2 AIO coolers so the actual figure alone for just the procs and GPU is probably a fair amount lower.

 

[Durvelle27]

I want a 10C Xeon now

 

[Dream0386]

I use a corsair H80 push-pull

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Good evening.
I'm new here, I just found this forum.
First of all sorry for my language, I am French.
I just bought a used W3650 xeon. I proceeded to overclocking, I would like your opinion.
Overclocking to 4522 MHz with vcore of 1.36V. (133x34). RAM = 1600 Mhz. UCLK = 3200 MHz. What do you think ?
I can not go higher because of the temperature. The maximum global temperature is 69 ° after one hour OCCT in Linpack mode.
I have a CPU PLL = 1.8V, and QPI / VTT = 1.18V

How can I do to lower the temperature and increase further overclocking this CPU?

Welcome.

Thats a great o/c. i would be very happy with it.


Can you run the CPUZ so we can compare?
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

 

[alucasa]

I want a 10C Xeon now

Ebay is your friend.

 

[Durvelle27]

Ebay is your friend.

I know I already have one in my cart now

Just trying to find a 2011 board that's not overly priced

 

[alucasa]

2011 board is as expensive as 2011-3. I did a long search on that before giving up and went for 2011-v3.

 

[Dream0386]

Welcome.

Thats a great o/c. i would be very happy with it.


Can you run the CPUZ so we can compare?
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

This is ok?
http://valid.x86.fr/ypvu35

 

[FireFox]

Good evening.
I'm new here, I just found this forum.
First of all sorry for my language, I am French.
I just bought a used W3650 xeon. I proceeded to overclocking, I would like your opinion.
Overclocking to 4522 MHz with vcore of 1.36V. (133x34). RAM = 1600 Mhz. UCLK = 3200 MHz. What do you think ?
I can not go higher because of the temperature. The maximum global temperature is 69 ° after one hour OCCT in Linpack mode.
I have a CPU PLL = 1.8V, and QPI / VTT = 1.18V

How can I do to lower the temperature and increase further overclocking this CPU?

Gaming or rendering Machine?

 

[dorsetknob]

Dream0386

I use a corsair H80 push-pull

your using an AIO cooler thats ok
To cool it better your probably have to either build a custom full loop or increase the Size of your Sealed AIO Cooler
Both Cost more ( you can offset some of the cost by selling your existing cooler later )

 

[Dream0386]

Gaming or rendering Machine?

especially for gaming. I also overclocking for my pleasure. But I have a little purse and I did not have a real watercooling lol

 

[FireFox]

especially for gaming. I also overclocking for my pleasure. But I have a little purse and I did not have a real watercooling lol

If @dorsetknob, @CAPSLOCKSTUCK, @Recon-UK and @Durvelle27 agree with me then i would say HT off.

Edit: my temperatures dropped 10c/12c with HT off.

 

[Dream0386]

If @dorsetknob, @CAPSLOCKSTUCK, @Recon-UK and @Durvelle27 agree with me then i would say HT off.

Edit: my temperatures dropped 10c/12c with HT off.

so I thought, but I would keep the HT. Do you think I can play on other voltages instead?

 

[Recon-UK]

If @dorsetknob, @CAPSLOCKSTUCK, @Recon-UK and @Durvelle27 agree with me then i would say HT off.

Edit: my temperatures dropped 10c/12c with HT off.

Yup HTT does barely anything for gaming and makes performance worse or better in some scenario's, however for me it boosts productivity performance and because my GPU is a mid powered card nothing too fancy the HT on / off scenario is not a huge difference.

20c cooler though with HTT off.