XFX Radeon RX 590 Fatboy 8 GB

[unikin]

Well do you want to work at AMD and fix it, people are expecting a 2080 ti here for peanuts, AMD can't compete in the high end market, get over it - and when they do nvidia fanboys like the ones in this thread will continue to buy nvidia. If it's not for you don't buy it, It's got it's use case and people will buy what meets their needs best or at least most of the time. Remember AMD works on nowhere near as much as R&D as intel and nvidia have, AMD is poor in comparison to the two AND they have no choice to not release a card every year, or they'll basically be handing over some more market share to nvidia, and remember their staff need to get paid so they need to release something people will buy or they'll end up bankrupt.

I've been in Red team most of my life, buying their FirePro series and gaming GPUs, just to support some competition in GPU market, knowing that I would be paying $10K+ for PRO GPUs if AMD goes under water. BUT saying it's OK to sell 3 years old Polaris for more money than RX 470/480 have originally costed is not OK with me. AMD used to be much better value than NGreedia, now it's not anymore. If Navi doesn't deliver GTX 1080 performance for $350, I'm going 2nd hand high end Green on my gaming PC and wait for better times to arrive.

 

[Gasaraki]

What a joke article. This got a "Highly Recommended" even though it is more expensive, has super high power draw, lower performance per $, lower performance per watt, no overclocking headroom than a 1060 6GB.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

AMD used to be much better value than NGreedia, now it's not anymore.

And why do you think that is?
They are fighting a 2 front battle here, it's like a car and van company fighting a richer dedicated car only company and a richer dedicated van only company then having a bunch of retards complain and expect some faster than 2080 ti card to launch from AMD, AMD got hurt bad from intel playing dirty and bribing companies to only use intel.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/05/25/why-did-nvidia-win-the-gpu-market/#40c504b575ef

 

[newtekie1]

Still 60$ more in your pocket, some people care about saving what they can.

Sure, and that argument can be applied to the RX 590. The GTX 1060 is $50 cheaper, that's still $50 more in your pocket, some people care about saving what they can. That doesn't change that the GTX1070 really is a better buy, even if you are gaming at 1080p, simply because the extra power of the GTX1070 will last longer than the RX 590 for people that hold onto a graphics card as long as possible. Of course an even better buy is the GTX 1070Ti or Vega 56. When it comes to high endish graphics cards that have the horse power to last and at a good price point too, those two cards both take the cake.

BUT saying it's OK to sell 3 years old Polaris for more money than RX 470/480 have originally costed is not OK with me.

Honestly, I would have much preferred a die shrunk Vega at a lower price point than a die shrunk Polaris at a higher price point. Give me a die shrunk Vega 56 at $300 and you have a winner on your hands.

Or, even better, instead of sitting on ass for the past year and a half, and then hastily die shrinking Polaris why not instead work on Vega? Give us some lower end Vega cards, rework the core a little so it will use regular GDDR memory, maybe make it a little smaller. Perhaps just make a Vega48, a die shrunk Vega that is designed with only 48CUs to start with that uses traditional GDDR. The smaller less complext die along with the elimination of HBM should give a pretty good cost reduction allowing the card to be priced in the $300 range and still be profitable. I'd probably be a damn good performing card too!

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Of course an even better buy is the GTX 1070Ti or Vega 56

Vega 64 wins in the UK in terms of price-performance
£398 and the 1070 ti costs £380 atm, both cards new.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38j-sp.html

 

[unikin]

And why do you think that is?
They are fighting a 2 front battle here, it's like a car and van company fighting a richer dedicated car only company and a richer dedicated van only company then having a bunch of retards complain and expect some faster than 2080 ti card to launch from AMD, AMD got hurt bad from intel playing dirty and bribing companies to only use intel.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/05/25/why-did-nvidia-win-the-gpu-market/#40c504b575ef

Agree, but things look brighter for AMD with their 7nm Epyc release. Data centers can't ignore much better AMD's price/performance ratio anymore. It has become too obvious, that's why Intel is kindda panicing. They are the same monopoly bastards as NGreedia is, thats why I use Threadripper in my build. God knows Xeons have costed me fortune in the past. Thanks to AMD I can get very, very good value on CPU market today. I hope they manage to do the same with Navi. They don't need to go high end. GTX 1080 equivalent for $350 and they would sell shitloads of GPUs.

 

[bug]

What a joke article. This got a "Highly Recommended" even though it is more expensive, has super high power draw, lower performance per $, lower performance per watt, no overclocking headroom than a 1060 6GB.

It's a new card though. I mean, is there any new card that doesn't get the "highly recommended" badge?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Agree, but things look brighter for AMD with their 7nm Epyc release. Data centers can't ignore much better AMD's price/performance ratio anymore. It has become too obvious, that's why Intel is kindda panicing. They are the same monopoly bastards as NGreedia is, thats why I use Threadripper in my build. God knows Xeons have costed me fortune in the past. Thanks to AMD I can get very, very good value on CPU market today. I hope they manage to do the same with Navi. They don't need to go high end. GTX 1080 equivalent for $350 and they would sell shitloads of GPUs.

Yes in the CPU market they've caught intel off guard, it doesn't change the fact nvidia has steamed ahead in the time that they haven't been competing and nvidia and intel both have the advantage of a hell of a lot more cash to blow

And AMD is definitely going well now they've moved past the crap FX lineup and those athlons on fm2+ - I've sold both of my fm2+ and am3+ rigs after being disappointed by performance, I'm not upgrading for a long time but when I do it'll probably be an amd setup

 

[newtekie1]

Vega 64 wins in the UK in terms of price-performance
£398 and the 1070 ti costs £380 atm, both cards new.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38j-sp.html

Saddly, that isn't the case in the states. The cheapest Vega64 is $410 and it's the crappy reference cooler version. The cheapest version with a decent aftermarket cooler is $500. Right now, in the US, Vega64 is a horrible buy, but Vega56 isn't that bad if you're ok with the loud reference cooler otherwise Vega56 isn't really a good buy either.

 

[W1zzard]

Are you sure about this prifle in multimonitor? (932 MHz2000 MHz0.950 V)
932 mhz? Seems to bit strange to me

yeah that's the frequency, it looked strange to me too

 

[Imsochobo]

Where do you find 580's so cheap?

For me it's cheaper than a GTX1060 3gb, performance way above 1060 6gb.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Saddly, that isn't the case in the states. The cheapest Vega64 is $410 and it's the crappy reference cooler version. The cheapest version with a decent aftermarket cooler is $500. Right now, in the US, Vega64 is a horrible buy, but Vega56 isn't that bad if you're ok with the loud reference cooler otherwise Vega56 isn't really a good buy either.

I was tempted myself, it is new after all but it's a pass since I'm saving to replace my cpu with a better one

 

[bug]

For me it's cheaper than a GTX1060 3gb, performance way above 1060 6gb.

How would you find a 580 having "performance way above 1060 6gb", when this card right here is only like 10-15% faster than 1060?

 

[W1zzard]

What a joke article. This got a "Highly Recommended" even though it is more expensive, has super high power draw, lower performance per $, lower performance per watt, no overclocking headroom than a 1060 6GB.

you forgot to cherry pick individual benchmarks where the 1060 is faster

 

[buildzoid]

The exposed top of an IR3578 is connected to the switch node not ground.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

Standalone, this is too expensive. It should be $250 tops. If you want any of the 3 free games though, then sure, it's a good deal.

But for only occasional gamers like me (I'm talking 1-2 games a year), that promotion is lost on me unless I sell them each.

 

[bug]

you forgot to cherry pick individual benchmarks where the 1060 is faster

You mean if you had $300 on your hands, you'd seriously consider getting one of these?

Also, two of the bundled titles come with Denuvo and the other one is from Ubisoft. I'm not sure that's an automatic pro for everyone. I know I have thrown out some "free" titles before because of online activation crap.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

What a joke article. This got a "Highly Recommended" even though it is more expensive, has super high power draw, lower performance per $, lower performance per watt, no overclocking headroom than a 1060 6GB.

You should know that was more like a “participation trophy” : Congrats to RTG for releasing SOMETHING in 2018 so people still remember they also sell GPUs

 

[W1zzard]

You mean if you had $300 on your hands, you'd seriously consider getting one of these?

Yeah, why not?

 

[bug]

Yeah, why not?

Because you can get performance in the same ballpark for $50 less. Lower power draw, too, if you go green.
I was just asking because I wasn't sure these were worth anything to you.

 

[Ravenas]

W1zzard, any plans to do a crossfire review? Say take the Sapphire 590 and the XFX 590?

 

[W1zzard]

W1zzard, any plans to do a crossfire review? Say take the Sapphire 590 and the XFX 590?

No plans, multi-GPU is a waste of time these days

 

[Supercrit]

At 12nm but has nearly the same performance and power consumption as a 28nm Fury X, either way past efficiency peak or terribly memory starved.

 

[Fluffmeister]

At 12nm but has nearly the same performance and power consumption as a 28nm Fury X, either way past efficiency peak or terribly memory starved.

Yeah performance per watt is still worse than Maxwell too. I doubt even 7nm would get it to close the likes of Pascal.

The game bundle at least sweetens the deal for what is a rather mediocre card.

 

[FeelinFroggy]

Nope your wrong, your comparing the "founders" 1080 ti to an aftermarket card
That's my 1080 ti ftw3 power consumption, My 1080 ti draws more than "230w average"
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-gtx-1080-ti-ftw3-gaming,5061-5.html
Besides, your forgetting the pricing difference between the 1080 ti and rx 590 - it's a stupid comparison.

Yes, your top end FTW 1080ti pulls 280 watts for gaming workload, still below your 300 watt proposal. Maybe your should read the chart.

You were the one who brought up the 1080ti power consumption, I never said anything about price. Honestly, there is nothing to really compare the 2 GPUs other than power consumption as that is the only thing that is close.

Furthermore, I don't even know what you are trying to accomplish here. You berate someone for having a Radeon HD and say they know nothing and then you start blathering about your 1080ti's power consumption. Sounds like you are trying to make up for something you are lacking by bragging about your 1080ti and tearing other people down.