You Really Shouldn't Delid AMD's Ryzen 7 CPUs

[R-T-B]

That has already been long debunked. Intel soldered smaller CPU dies in the past without issue (see every sandy bridge i3 for instance at 149mm2).

Ryzen is smaller then a sandy bridge quad core (195mm2 vs 216mm2) yet AMD had no issue soldering them. Intel simply cheaped out because they could.

He's not saying they can't, it has a higher failure rate to solder small dies. Which is true. Again, it comes down to money, but at least for Intel a lost chip here and there is a slightly more legit expense than a simple cost of materials for solder.

 

[silkstone]

He's not saying they can't, it has a higher failure rate to solder small dies. Which is true. Again, it comes down to money, but at least for Intel a lost chip here and there is a slightly more legit expense than a simple cost of materials for solder.

I can't imagine they physical cost of materials and energy for making a CPU is high. Most of the cost will be for the machinery and licences.

It's only a very slightly more legitimate expense.

He's not saying they can't, it has a higher failure rate to solder small dies. Which is true. Again, it comes down to money, but at least for Intel a lost chip here and there is a slightly more legit expense than a simple cost of materials for solder.

I can't imagine they physical cost of materials and energy for making a CPU is high. Most of the cost will be for the machinery and licences.

It's only a very slightly more legitimate exp

if they didnt solder, there seem to be evidence that the cpu would overheat - based on the temps at it is they NEEDED to user solder to even reach the (very) minor OC of the 1800x

On the other hand kabylake still reaches 4.8-5.1 depending on the lottery. Would it be nicer to reach this with 10-20 C lower? yes - but it still does it.

Intel uses solder on HEDT because its needed there and paste on mainstream becauses its not. Overclockers can void their warrenty, delid at get 100-200 MHz more at lower temps. But its just business strategy - plain and simple, you cant fault them for that (although im sure there are plenty of entitled people that will).

It'll be interesting to see what AMD do with their Quad and Hexa-core chips that shouldn't 'need' solder.

 

[DarkHill]

It'll be interesting to see what AMD do with their Quad and Hexa-core chips that shouldn't 'need' solder.

I think the cost of setting up different production lines will void the gain of not soldering since it seems all the ryzen cpus are physically identical.

 

[Evangeline]

One chip

Juan Chip does plenty.

 

[m1dg3t]

It took 9 days for this to become 'news' on TPU? Wow.

 

[ADHDGAMING]

Nobody told derBauer? Oh oh oh...

Im also surprised, AMD has a history of IHS set ups like this lol .. But hes the Delid guy if its a CPU, he delids it its kind of his thing. He will likely Delid the R5s and R3s too.

 

[Vayra86]

One does not simply enter Ryzen.