Your Haswell-E max stable OC

[petedread]

This lot arrived today but my Plextor M6e 256g M.2 drive didn't, so I wont be installing it all until Saturday . Super excited as this is my first time on 2011, or any extreme platform. I had to settle for Kingston Predator (3000mhz cas 15) because all the UK shops stuck a extra £100 on Gskill's 3000mhz kit 2 weeks ago. Luckily the Kingston cost the same as the Gskill kit did originally, but no doubt this won't last for much longer.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Hey guys do these temps look normal to you i mean is it normal for cores to be around 10c apart on a load test or do i have a bad mount?

 

[GhostRyder]

Hey guys do these temps look normal to you i mean is it normal for cores to be around 10c apart on a load test or do i have a bad mount?

In my experience yes its normal. Sometimes things just turn out like that because the specific core has less load on it or its just a fluke with the sensor which is why I normally look at all the CPU sensor areas including package over just the individual core temps. In short I would not worry about it.

 

[Mydog]

Bench testing memory 1.5V on 3200 MHz CAS 13, might need to tighten up on the secondary's a bit?

Using adaptive vcore is good when you want to get the SS down to max temp.

 

[cadaveca]

read-write timings are what's affecting your AIDA, but that's still some pretty respectable numbers!

 

[THE_EGG]

Because I am very lazy when it comes to OCing CPUs, I thought I'd give the auto-OC thing a try on the X99-Deluxe. This is what I got:

With the same voltage using the same CPU on ye olde Gigabyte X99-Gaming 5 I achieved 4.3ghz. Quite a jump I must say.
Edit: This being said though, my Gaming 5 was faulty so I'm thinking it could have gone higher if it were fully operational.

It seems stable so far when using ABBYY Finereader 11.

I haven't OCed my ram yet and tbh, I don't think it will OC very well considering it's bargain basement crucial ram (2133mhz no heat-spreader version).

 

[petedread]

Stock Bios, XMP not enabled yet. So is this my VID? 1.69v. Will try overclocking after work this evening. Need to download some bench and monitoring software, will post more numbers.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Because I am very lazy when it comes to OCing CPUs, I thought I'd give the auto-OC thing a try on the X99-Deluxe. This is what I got:View attachment 60352


With the same voltage using the same CPU on ye olde Gigabyte X99-Gaming 5 I achieved 4.3ghz. Quite a jump I must say.
Edit: This being said though, my Gaming 5 was faulty so I'm thinking it could have gone higher if it were fully operational.

It seems stable so far when using ABBYY Finereader 11.

I haven't OCed my ram yet and tbh, I don't think it will OC very well considering it's bargain basement crucial ram (2133mhz no heat-spreader version).

Not bad overclock u have there make sure you download LinX 0.6.4 do not run 0.6.5 as it uses AVX2 which draws to much current. i used this version http://www.mediafire.com/?0vlniujny4i8sjo


So I'm 4 hours stable on LinX @ 4.5Ghz 1.3v i get a BSOD on 1.3v for 4.6Ghz. These temp are lower now as i had a problem with my CPU block.

 

[EarthDog]

read-write timings are what's affecting your AIDA, but that's still some pretty respectable numbers!

The one thing that irritates me about AIDA is that its MEMORY bandwidth is core dependent... WTH???? Can you shed some light on that for me and does that translate to real world anything?

 

[GhostRyder]

Because I am very lazy when it comes to OCing CPUs, I thought I'd give the auto-OC thing a try on the X99-Deluxe. This is what I got:View attachment 60352


With the same voltage using the same CPU on ye olde Gigabyte X99-Gaming 5 I achieved 4.3ghz. Quite a jump I must say.
Edit: This being said though, my Gaming 5 was faulty so I'm thinking it could have gone higher if it were fully operational.

It seems stable so far when using ABBYY Finereader 11.

I haven't OCed my ram yet and tbh, I don't think it will OC very well considering it's bargain basement crucial ram (2133mhz no heat-spreader version).

Wow that's pretty dang good for a Auto overclock! You got a real winner of a chip there!

Not bad overclock u have there make sure you download LinX 0.6.4 do not run 0.6.5 as it uses AVX2 which draws to much current. i used this version http://www.mediafire.com/?0vlniujny4i8sjo


So I'm 4 hours stable on LinX @ 4.5Ghz 1.3v i get a BSOD on 1.3v for 4.6Ghz. These temp are lower now as i had a problem with my CPU block.

That seems to be very similar to my chip though mine did 4.6ghz around that point, I cannot remember exacts off the top of my head but you and I seem to have very similar 5930K chips!

 

[LiveOrDie]

Wow that's pretty dang good for a Auto overclock! You got a real winner of a chip there!

That seems to be very similar to my chip though mine did 4.6ghz around that point, I cannot remember exacts off the top of my head but you and I seem to have very similar 5930K chips!

Did you change any other settings in the bios or just the Core voltage? i will try for 4.6Ghz soon maybe use 1.35v see how i go.

 

[GhostRyder]

Did you change any other settings in the bios or just the Core voltage? i will try for 4.6Ghz soon maybe use 1.35v see how i go.

Yea a few others sorry I am at work and cannot remember what my settings are, ill try and grad a screenshot of what I did but I was focused on minimum overclock of 4.5ghz and a max of 4.8ghz with the lowest possible voltage settings. I managed a 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, and 4.7ghz stable with stress testing and benchmarks though the voltages for 4.6ghz+ were a bit higher than I felt I wanted for the chip for the life (Plus games and other things really are fine up to that point) so I played more with my 4.5ghz to get the setting stable for a long run of stress testing for 12+hours at the lowest voltages and setting possible and decided I was happy.

 

[cadaveca]

The one thing that irritates me about AIDA is that its MEMORY bandwidth is core dependent... WTH???? Can you shed some light on that for me and does that translate to real world anything?

Memory interfaces with l3, which interfaces with CPU core... blah, blah, blah... and yeah, it does translate, but only as much as memory bandwidth does, which isn't a lot, of course, unless you have high bus workloads, like multi-gpu, etc.

 

[cadaveca]

The one thing that irritates me about AIDA is that its MEMORY bandwidth is core dependent... WTH???? Can you shed some light on that for me and does that translate to real world anything?

I was in school when I responded last, so I'll add this as well... it's possible that the offered memory bandwidth isn't being fully utilized by the core, so increasing core speed gets better numbers since the memory is capable of supporting more CPU workload. If CPU speed increases in anything did NOT affect memory benchmarks, then that'd indicate that the memory speed is a bottleneck. I'd also want to check with other apps to confirm that the increases were there, and from what I have seen, increases in AIDA definitely are reflected in other benchmarks, too. There's SiSoft Sandra, Maxxmem, SuperPi, etc, etc... and typically increases in any of these is reflected in all of them.

 

[EarthDog]

Thanks for elaborating!

There are definitely increases in read amd copy(I think, knee to look at my notes) with clock speed. But aida is sensetive to the number of cores. Maxmemm I do not think responds this way, but again, I need muh notes!

 

[cadaveca]

But aida is sensetive to the number of cores.

...which indicates that the memory bus isn't fully utilized by the algorithm used, whether byy limits imposed by L2/L3 interaction, or whatever, I am not sure. Of course asking @Fiery might give you a better answer.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Yea a few others sorry I am at work and cannot remember what my settings are, ill try and grad a screenshot of what I did but I was focused on minimum overclock of 4.5ghz and a max of 4.8ghz with the lowest possible voltage settings. I managed a 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, and 4.7ghz stable with stress testing and benchmarks though the voltages for 4.6ghz+ were a bit higher than I felt I wanted for the chip for the life (Plus games and other things really are fine up to that point) so I played more with my 4.5ghz to get the setting stable for a long run of stress testing for 12+hours at the lowest voltages and setting possible and decided I was happy.

Cool what programs did u use to test your overclock i find some pass when others don't so its some times hard to find a good voltage.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Yea a few others sorry I am at work and cannot remember what my settings are, ill try and grad a screenshot of what I did but I was focused on minimum overclock of 4.5ghz and a max of 4.8ghz with the lowest possible voltage settings. I managed a 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, and 4.7ghz stable with stress testing and benchmarks though the voltages for 4.6ghz+ were a bit higher than I felt I wanted for the chip for the life (Plus games and other things really are fine up to that point) so I played more with my 4.5ghz to get the setting stable for a long run of stress testing for 12+hours at the lowest voltages and setting possible and decided I was happy.

Hey Ghost what stress test did you use i have been testing with AVX2 stress tests and here what i have found. If you could post your settings up i would like to try them out .

So i just wanted to see if i could get my system stable running LinX 0.6.5 with Linpack 11.2.1.009 heres what i have found lol.

Both tests done for 4 hours with all memory.
LinX 0.6.4 stable on 4.5Ghz @ 1.290v , LLC 6 , Input voltage 1.85
LinX 0.6.5 stable on 4.4Ghz @ 1.32 , LLC 7 , Input voltage 1.91

 

[THE_EGG]

Not bad overclock u have there make sure you download LinX 0.6.4 do not run 0.6.5 as it uses AVX2 which draws to much current. i used this version http://www.mediafire.com/?0vlniujny4i8sjo


So I'm 4 hours stable on LinX @ 4.5Ghz 1.3v i get a BSOD on 1.3v for 4.6Ghz. These temp are lower now as i had a problem with my CPU block.

What settings should I input into LinX 0.6.4? How long do you think it should be run for a stability test?

It all seems stable so far with no BSODs when I tried with Cinebench R15 and using some normal programs and games for several hours (BF4, ABBYY Finereader 11 <- this Finereader 11 maxes the crap out of the CPU when text recognizing).

What other programs do you guys think I should try for stability tests? Back in the day I used to use Prime95 but I've now read that I shouldn't use that for Haswell-E. Pretty confused now.

Edit: should I maybe use OCCT? or IBT?

 

[LiveOrDie]

What settings should I input into LinX 0.6.4? How long do you think it should be run for a stability test?

It all seems stable so far with no BSODs when I tried with Cinebench R15 and using some normal programs and games for several hours (BF4, ABBYY Finereader 11 <- this Finereader 11 maxes the crap out of the CPU when text recognizing).

What other programs do you guys think I should try for stability tests? Back in the day I used to use Prime95 but I've now read that I should use that for Haswell-E. Pretty confused now.

Edit: should I maybe use OCCT? or IBT?

I normally run LinX for 250 minutes which is just over 4 hours, I have also left Aida64 going for over 12 hours, Have read of the info below the newest versions of Prime95 and LinX use AVX which pulls a lot of current which can downgrade your CPU that what Asus says but i have run it for 4 hours probably 10 in total, Until i read that below AVX tests shouldn't be used to test stability as when you set a adaptive/offset voltage the CPU will increase your voltage when AVX instructions are detected, What you can do is use a manual voltage to see what is needed for AVX stability then set a adaptive voltage and do a small short test to see what voltage the CPU ramps to then use that data to try to match your finding using the manual voltage.

What settings are you using for your OC also im from Perth nice to see another ozzy on here .

There is one issue with Offset and Adaptive Mode that needs to be taken into account. The processor contains a power control unit which requests voltage based upon software load. When the PCU detects AVX instructions, it will ramp Vcore automatically beyond normal load voltage. There is no way to lock Vcore to prevent this if using Offset or Adapative Mode. This is pre-programmed by Intel into the PCU.

As an example, a CPU is perfectly stable at 1.25V using a manual voltage (static), if Adaptive or Offset Mode is used instead, it is impossible to lock the core voltage when running software that contains AVX instruction sets – stress tests such as LinX 0.6.5 and Prime contain AVX instruction sets. When the AVX instructions are detected by the PCU, the core voltage will be ramped an additional ~0.1V over your target voltage – so 1.25V will become ~1.35V under AVX load. If you intend to run heavy load AVX software, it is recommend to use Manual Vcore, NOT Adaptive or Offset Mode.

 

[petedread]

Can anybody explain how the Asus OC profile save section of the BIOS works? This is my first Asus board since p67 and although it's a long time a go, and I don't remember anything else about the bios, I do remember this bit perfectly well because it frustrated constantly.

If I put load from 4, does it load immediately or after save and exit?
It seems that if if I put load from 4 it will load from immediately 4 and because I have save to 5 it overwrites 5 with 4. So when ever I start the computer and want to make a new OC I have to loose the OC that loaded.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Can anybody explain how the Asus OC profile save section of the BIOS works? This is my first Asus board since p67 and although it's a long time a go, and I don't remember anything else about the bios, I do remember this bit perfectly well because it frustrated constantly.

If I put load from 4, does it load immediately or after save and exit?
It seems that if if I put load from 4 it will load from immediately 4 and because I have save to 5 it overwrites 5 with 4. So when ever I start the computer and want to make a new OC I have to loose the OC that loaded.

It load once you selected it and hit enter but like my board the bios locks up trying to reload profiles after you leave the bios.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Just tested out adaptive voltage and it doesn't seem to spike any more like my old X79 did.

 

[GhostRyder]

Hey Ghost what stress test did you use i have been testing with AVX2 stress tests and here what i have found. If you could post your settings up i would like to try them out .

So i just wanted to see if i could get my system stable running LinX 0.6.5 with Linpack 11.2.1.009 heres what i have found lol.

Both tests done for 4 hours with all memory.
LinX 0.6.4 stable on 4.5Ghz @ 1.290v , LLC 6 , Input voltage 1.85
LinX 0.6.5 stable on 4.4Ghz @ 1.32 , LLC 7 , Input voltage 1.91

I test with a couple of things (Sorry about late reply)
Prime95 is still one I like to use, I normally test for 30 minutes to get a beginning of stability checked and then after I have everything confirmed I do it once again as part of a Burn in for a long period of time (Generally a couple hours depending) for final temps and to make double sure. I also use Heaven, AVX2, FireStrike (Mostly for fun), Pi, CineBench, and a few random depending on what I hear is a good recent one. I change when I hear about new ones or programs that are getting better checks for certain processors or just are now better for checking.

As for settings, well my settings (I checked this weekend but forgot to post and I am at work so this is off memory) were 1.275 for VCore and manually entered the ram settings for this system which is about the extent needed for my 4.5ghz overclock which was fairly easy to find (Stability wise), I plan on going back alter and trying some additional changes to try and lower the Vcore a bit when I have some extra free time. To achieve 4.6ghz I got it after playing around some more with settings to 1.295 Vcore, Ring (I believe) 1.10-1.2 (Cannot remember exact ill again have to double check), and then bumped the input voltage up a bit which got me some good stability which I may go back to (its a saved setting) but for right now I am more than happy at 4.5ghz on it. I have not devoted enough time to playing around with changing the input and such to see if I can get that 4.5ghz lower because I have been to busy and actually not been using it much lol.

Not enough time in the day sometimes with my recent position change at work along with a move, however this week should allow some extra time that I may go for a bit of playing.

 

[EarthDog]

Live or Die... any reason you are adjusting the input voltage at non extreme clocks?