• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Z390 Fiasco to Freeasco!

Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
I have been on 4th generation (Z87-Z97/i7 4790k) for 10 years since 2014. I used to upgrade every couple of years and was pretty savvy with my builds. Just before Halloween I decided it was time to Upgrade to some newer technology. Found a seller with a Z390 motherboard, RX 580 Nitro + GPU, and 40GB of memory. The seller had upgraded to a Z790 system and was selling his old stuff. I had all the parts by the 10th of November. It took two days to get the PC to boot. The GPU was DOA! The Memory only works in single channel! I spent a couple of more days troubleshooting the PC and believe the A2 memory slot is faulty. I contacted the seller and told him what issues I found and that I was considering a refund. While waiting for the seller to reply I was in the process of reporting the issues to ebay and uploading photos when all of a sudden I received a refund notification email from ebay! The seller apologized and initiated a refund in under five minutes! I contacted the seller to arrange return of his components. He may be able to RMA the board and GPU and sell the memory which appears to be fine. The seller told me not to worry about returning the components!!! I have ordered a NEW GPU and I am looking at a NEW Z390 motherboard. The Z390 motherboard is a brand NEW Chinese version with Chinese packaging and documentation. Has anyone here dealt with the Chinese version of their motherboard and are there any issues i need to worry about?:confused:
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
Yeah, no telling how long the old components had been sitting around before he sold them. If he is using a Z790 system now I'm sure he is not worried about Z390 components. I don't think the seller intended to sell faulty items. All in all a great seller. I'm currently using these components to learn more about 8th gen systems. Sort of a blessing in disguise.;)
Glad you got your money back. Pretty much everything is out of warranty by now for sure.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,941 (6.71/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Yeah, no telling how long the old components had been sitting around before he sold them. If he is using a Z790 system now I'm sure he is not worried about Z390 components. I don't think the seller intended to sell faulty items. All in all a great seller. I'm currently using these components to learn more about 8th gen systems. Sort of a blessing in disguise.;)
Those old boards are stiched together and are like a box o chocolates.

Its like Ali Express repackaging rx580s as afox, mllse etc
 
Joined
Feb 4, 2014
Messages
354 (0.09/day)
Location
Oztralia down under
System Name K9
Processor i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz and 32deg C - delid + Grizzly Conductonaught LM
Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Gaming X
Cooling Custom water cooling loop - GPU + mobo (+VRM's) + CPU
Memory G Skill - Trident Z RGB DDR4 - 3866Mhz x 32Gb @ 3800Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Aorus 11Gb GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Extreme @ 2250Mhz
Storage Samsung 500Gb M2 970 EVO + Samsung 850 Pro SSD + ADATA 512Gb SSD + Samsung 1Tb & 3T + WD 1Tb + 3Tb
Display(s) ASUS 27" ROG Swift 1440p @ 165Hz & BenQ 27" LED
Case Thermaltake Core P7 - Open frame
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z906 - 5.1ch
Power Supply EVGA 1200W
Mouse Roccat LeadR + Razer Nagar V2 Pro
Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX with Cherry Red switches
Software Win 10 Pro 64bit
Benchmark Scores v/fast
hi rockit00,

Shame u got a faulty one, as I'm still rocking my Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X mobo with a Gigabyte 1080Ti GPU card, which I purchased in 2017.

I to, will be doing the full u/g around Jan 2025 = Z890 system = $7,000.00 Oz.
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
Yeah, I was puzzled by all those goofy branded RX 580's all over the place. I ended up spending my whole refund on a NEW Power Color RX 6600 XT. Spent another $85.00 on a NEW Z390 motherboard. I don't Game as much as I used to. Mostly multi-media stuff (music, movies, etc.) with a minimal overclock. I don't plan on ever needing more than 8 cores but needed a legit Win 11 ready system going forward. I'll probably get STALKER 2 and Homeworld 3 after the new year. Good luck with that Z890 system. Edit: The Z390 boards that I'm dealing with are MSI MEG Z390 Gaming Plus boards. The NEW board is from a US seller but has Chinese packaging and documentation. Hopefully I can change the language in the Bios. Time will tell.:confused:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
The problem is that Z390 and older (pre-Comet Lake) has a severe CSME flaw and requires a BIOS update. I think it should be in the form of a BIOS update. It got a rating of critical. (remote-code-execution)

Interestingly, I haven't heard of people getting hacked because of this CSME flaw, despite the rating of being particularly severe!

It was fixed already with the 10th generation.
 
Joined
Feb 24, 2023
Messages
3,236 (4.74/day)
Location
Russian Wild West
System Name DLSS / YOLO-PC / FULLRETARD
Processor i5-12400F / 10600KF / C2D E6750
Motherboard Gigabyte B760M DS3H / Z490 Vision D / P5GC-MX/1333
Cooling Laminar RM1 / Gammaxx 400 / 775 Box cooler
Memory 32 GB DDR4-3200 / 16 GB DDR4-3333 / 3 GB DDR2-700
Video Card(s) RX 6700 XT / R9 380 2 GB / 9600 GT
Storage A couple SSDs, m.2 NVMe included / 240 GB CX1 / 500 GB HDD
Display(s) Compit HA2704 / MSi G2712 / non-existent
Case Matrexx 55 / Junkyard special / non-existent
Audio Device(s) Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites.
Power Supply Thermaltake 1000 W / Corsair CX650M / non-existent
Mouse Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress...
Keyboard Makes some noise. Probably onto something.
VR HMD I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one.
Software Windows 11 / 10 / 8
Hopefully I can change the language in the Bios
1733250233023.jpeg

It's fairly straightforward. See the "English" in the top right? There's the language swap button. And of course, Chinese versions come with all languages support. You might even be lucky to have it anglicised out of the box.

Then, of course, you must install the latest BIOS if it's not flashed already. Security comes first.
I ended up spending my whole refund on a NEW Power Color RX 6600 XT
That's a good gaming device anyway. Surely it won't be blistering in the newest titles and will struggle with higher resolutions but for casual gaming, it's plenty. Nice choice if <200 USD.

Z390 is a nice platform. Should be able to overclock the snot out of your RAM and, perhaps, even CPU. If that's an 8600K or 9600K then OC is a must.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2020
Messages
1,017 (0.65/day)
System Name ASUS TUF F15
Processor Intel Core i7-11800H
Motherboard ASUS FX506HC
Cooling Laptop built-in cooling lol
Memory 24 GB @ 3200
Video Card(s) Intel UHD & Nvidia RTX 3050 Mobile
Storage Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB
Display(s) Laptop built-in 144 Hz FHD screen
Audio Device(s) LOGITECH 2.1-channel
Power Supply ASUS 180W PSU
Mouse Logitech G604
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex 7 TKL
Software Windows 10 Enterprise 21H2 LTSC
I have been on 4th generation (Z87-Z97/i7 4790k) for 10 years since 2014. I used to upgrade every couple of years and was pretty savvy with my builds. Just before Halloween I decided it was time to Upgrade to some newer technology. Found a seller with a Z390 motherboard, RX 580 Nitro + GPU, and 40GB of memory. The seller had upgraded to a Z790 system and was selling his old stuff. I had all the parts by the 10th of November. It took two days to get the PC to boot. The GPU was DOA! The Memory only works in single channel! I spent a couple of more days troubleshooting the PC and believe the A2 memory slot is faulty. I contacted the seller and told him what issues I found and that I was considering a refund. While waiting for the seller to reply I was in the process of reporting the issues to ebay and uploading photos when all of a sudden I received a refund notification email from ebay! The seller apologized and initiated a refund in under five minutes! I contacted the seller to arrange return of his components. He may be able to RMA the board and GPU and sell the memory which appears to be fine. The seller told me not to worry about returning the components!!! I have ordered a NEW GPU and I am looking at a NEW Z390 motherboard. The Z390 motherboard is a brand NEW Chinese version with Chinese packaging and documentation. Has anyone here dealt with the Chinese version of their motherboard and are there any issues i need to worry about?:confused:
have you seen that this is "chinese" MB before buying? as about rx580, I think even 3 y.o. baby or 90 y.o. man living not in abandoned island knows that this is SCAM-"refub" cards....
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
Well my neighborhood power company and grid has changed for the worse since 2019. Momentary power interruptions were rare before, but now I get one or two a month and occasionally two in one day. The power company recommends a UPS to protect sensitive electronics. Bios update will be a necessary gamble in my case. I'm hoping my Z390's are capable of being flashed with the power off via flash drive. I'm looking into that CSME flaw also. I'd hate to have to invest in a cheap UPS but it may be a wise bet. The Hellhound 6600XT was under $200 and ought to be good for 1080p gaming. My 8700k @ 4.00GHz and 32GB ( 16x2 ) Corsair ram ought to do the trick for casual gaming. The Chinese motherboard I bought comes with a 30 day warranty and appears to be legit, unlike them crypto fried fake RX 580's.:fear: Thanks to all for the tips, I've gotten a little rusty since Devils Canyon. I feel like a NOOB all over again. :D
 
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
The con, is 8 lanes instead of 16 lanes. Makes it better off to get a Turing or a Pascal, maybe a Radeon Vega 64 or 56? Or of course, the Radeon RX 6700 family, preferably RX 6700 XT, if not the refresh RX 6750 XT.
I'm wondering about the lanes, even for 2013-2019 games. Also older as well, including DirectX 9 games.

Of course, you won't game hard like I do.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 24, 2023
Messages
3,236 (4.74/day)
Location
Russian Wild West
System Name DLSS / YOLO-PC / FULLRETARD
Processor i5-12400F / 10600KF / C2D E6750
Motherboard Gigabyte B760M DS3H / Z490 Vision D / P5GC-MX/1333
Cooling Laminar RM1 / Gammaxx 400 / 775 Box cooler
Memory 32 GB DDR4-3200 / 16 GB DDR4-3333 / 3 GB DDR2-700
Video Card(s) RX 6700 XT / R9 380 2 GB / 9600 GT
Storage A couple SSDs, m.2 NVMe included / 240 GB CX1 / 500 GB HDD
Display(s) Compit HA2704 / MSi G2712 / non-existent
Case Matrexx 55 / Junkyard special / non-existent
Audio Device(s) Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites.
Power Supply Thermaltake 1000 W / Corsair CX650M / non-existent
Mouse Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress...
Keyboard Makes some noise. Probably onto something.
VR HMD I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one.
Software Windows 11 / 10 / 8
The con, is 8 lanes instead of 16 lanes. Makes it better off to get a Turing or a Pascal, maybe a Radeon Vega 64 or 56?
1733267246489.png

1% lows are lowkey messy but the OP will be fine. Turing GPUs are power hogs, Pascal are obsolete, and Vegas are just e-waste. 3060 Ti is the healthiest alternative but it's more expensive.
 
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,941 (6.71/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
The 6600 is fine.
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
This is so much fun! Some of you older TPU misfits (geniuses) from 2009- 2010 may have forgotten me. Remember the Core 2 Duo E8600 and the Unreleased Wolfdale E8700? Do you remember "@Fearlessleader, I got it by mistake days?" Things don't change much between Computers, Geeks, and Opinions! Google some of that old stuff and you will see the Dual Core speedsters vs the new Quads. This battle applied to the GPU's, and Memory at the time also. This is what we do! Although a lot of enthusiast sites have gone down since 2000-2020, TPU is my house. Discuss, Dispute, Argue (in a civilized manner) and learn. I see old names crawling out of the woodwork with valid things to say. Thanks to all, I'm Listening, I'm Learning!:toast:
 
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
Remember the Core 2 Duo E8600
I got my E8600 in the 2K 'teens, LOL. After being unable to get one brand new back in 2008 or 2009.

4.0 GHz OC is a piece of cake!
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
@RJARRRPCGP, you were a voice in 2009. You made a valid comment about E8600 vs E8700 back then. At first there were two owners of this promised but unreleased E8700 Wolfdale. rockit00 and Fearlessleader accidently obtained the only two of them seen anywhere! There was a third owner from August 2009 who put his on ebay. The E8600's were breaking records back then. Fearlessleader was an overclocker with skills. I was a lucky E8700 finder who wanted to run at stock, compare and sell for a profit. There was a small window for good profit back in 2009-2010. The E8700 was Sasquatch and the Unicorn rolled into one. And while we were all marveling at this Intel freak rare CPU, some one let the DOGs OUT! In early 2010 the E8700 started appearing everywhere. All the E8700's flooded the market!!! HWbot,Overclock.net, Anandtech, Xtremssystems, and more. The internet never forgets. The main thing was the transition from Core 2 Duo to the next generation and the opinions and ideas going forward. I still want to know, WHO LET THE DOGS OUT E8700 Wolfdale, LMASOFL!!!
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
Well I got my new Z390 motherboard and RX 6600 XT on Friday. It turns out that the motherboard is a brand new sealed MSI Z390 Gaming Plus aimed at the Asian marketplace. The included manual is as thick as a hotel bible. Luckily the first chapter is in English followed by four other chapters of Asian languages. Probably not intended for the European market. I'm still practicing with the faulty memory slot Z390 for now. Bios update was a success, Win 10 to Win 11 upgrade was a success, gaming test with the RX 6600 XT was a success. I plan on a complete Win 10/Win 11 dual boot set up with this single channel Z390 and hope to swap with the NEW Z390 later this week. The single channel motherboard ought to make a good test rig down the road. Z390 will allow for i9 and XT 7000 upgrades in the future. Thanks to all for the tips.:rockout:
 

Attachments

  • 20241206_123755.jpg
    20241206_123755.jpg
    948.5 KB · Views: 20
  • 20241206_123743.jpg
    20241206_123743.jpg
    894.8 KB · Views: 18
  • 20241206_123919.jpg
    20241206_123919.jpg
    880.9 KB · Views: 21
  • 20241206_134741.jpg
    20241206_134741.jpg
    967.1 KB · Views: 21
  • 20241206_140509.jpg
    20241206_140509.jpg
    802.8 KB · Views: 22
  • 20241206_140825.jpg
    20241206_140825.jpg
    766.6 KB · Views: 21

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,941 (6.71/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Well I got my new Z390 motherboard and RX 6600 XT on Friday. It turns out that the motherboard is a brand new sealed MSI Z390 Gaming Plus aimed at the Asian marketplace. The included manual is as thick as a hotel bible. Luckily the first chapter is in English followed by four other chapters of Asian languages. Probably not intended for the European market. I'm still practicing with the faulty memory slot Z390 for now. Bios update was a success, Win 10 to Win 11 upgrade was a success, gaming test with the RX 6600 XT was a success. I plan on a complete Win 10/Win 11 dual boot set up with this single channel Z390 and hope to swap with the NEW Z390 later this week. The single channel motherboard ought to make a good test rig down the road. Z390 will allow for i9 and XT 7000 upgrades in the future. Thanks to all for the tips.:rockout:
Thank Goodness you dodged a bullet
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
30 days later.....It's ALIVE! I had hoped to have my new 8th gen build up and running on 11-11-2024 "Veterans Day". Alas due to un-anticipated events the offensive was delayed. On 12-11-2024 at 12:01 AM the deed is done! I swapped out the Z390 "Lemon motherboard" for the NEW Z390 motherboard. A swap tends to be twice the work of a straight new build and took three hours! Got it all connected and went for the mandatory BIOS update. 90 seconds of pure terror later I'm on the latest 7-2024 BIOS! And then I fell into the LOOP#%$!!! It took me 30 minutes to figure out how to solve the M2 Genie raid error. Had to go into the BIOS over and over to finally find the integrated peripherals settings to disable M2 raid and set to AHCI mode. @ Macro Device, you were correct about default English language BIOS, they are named Micro Star "International" for a reason! I could not be happier as I dodged a bullet two times. Customizing Windows 10 Pro as we speak and just received the Windows 11 Pro upgrade for FREE notification, LOL.:clap::toast::peace::roll:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
August 2009
Meanwhile, in late August, 2009, I was so happy to get a Core 2 Duo E4500! The E4500 sample I got, was light years better than my E2180, even when older than my E2180!
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
OK, You probably remember the AsRock Conroe 865PE motherboard also. DDR1 plus AGP let you test all the intel Core 2 Duo CPU's without buying a whole new LGA775 setup. The Conroe 865PE was never released to the US market and had to be purchased from the UK or Australia. Those were the Good Old Days!
 
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
2,509 (0.52/day)
Location
Springfield, Vermont
System Name KHR-1
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s) Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s) Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
OK, You probably remember the AsRock Conroe 865PE motherboard also. DDR1 plus AGP let you test all the intel Core 2 Duo CPU's without buying a whole new LGA775 setup. The Conroe 865PE was never released to the US market and had to be purchased from the UK or Australia. Those were the Good Old Days!
Years ago, I got words about socket 775 motherboards that have AGP. Wasn't sure about DDR1, though. That kind of hybrid (A.K.A. franken-mix) would have been good before 2008.
In 2008, by September, I had enough money for an entire new system, so I didn't think of that.

September, 2008, was when I got the dud E2180, for an E4500 from 2007 to take its place in late August, 2009. So I popped the E4500 into my Asus P5QL Pro, after the PC that had it, was given to me.

The Asus P5QL Pro was the motherboard of choice for a tight budget in 2008. (P43 chipset) The other PC that it came out of, still worked OK, so I popped the E2180 into it, because there wasn't any OC'ing, anyways. The PC it came out of, became a PC for Linux distro-hopping!
 
Joined
Sep 24, 2005
Messages
386 (0.05/day)
Merry Xmas to ALL! This NEW build has been very enlightening! I am very satisfied with it except for one issue. I am using two Seagate 2TB 3.5" HDD's for a dual boot Win 10/11 Pro system. Needless to say that these HDD's are ideal for storage but are horrible for a gaming build. Speed is what I need and these drives are not going to make the grade. I've been OK with SSHD's in my older rigs and I am wondering which way to go forward. The 2.5" 2TB Firecuda SSHD's are looking good at the moment. I don't know much about the current SSD offerings and I don't think NVME's and SSD's are necessary for this build. I'm wondering what tweak will give me the best bang for buck in 2025?
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,941 (6.71/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Merry Xmas to ALL! This NEW build has been very enlightening! I am very satisfied with it except for one issue. I am using two Seagate 2TB 3.5" HDD's for a dual boot Win 10/11 Pro system. Needless to say that these HDD's are ideal for storage but are horrible for a gaming build. Speed is what I need and these drives are not going to make the grade. I've been OK with SSHD's in my older rigs and I am wondering which way to go forward. The 2.5" 2TB Firecuda SSHD's are looking good at the moment. I don't know much about the current SSD offerings and I don't think NVME's and SSD's are necessary for this build. I'm wondering what tweak will give me the best bang for buck in 2025?
SATA SSD or even a Velocitaptor. Sad to say but Crucial just stopped producing the MX500 line which was the only contender to Samsung 800/900 Pro Line, so if Seagate have a contender I'd go with them
 
Top