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Fluffmeister said:
Well the 2070 Super with 2560 cores performs right in-line if slightly above the 1080 Ti with 3584 cores.
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Green memory is peculiar:

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medi01 said:
Green memory is peculiar:
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Memory may be peculiar but their reading comprehension skills are up there.

Indeed core for core, Turing smashes Pascal, my GTX1080 has the same 2560 / 160 / 64 - core / texture / ROP count and gets its ass handed to it by a 2070S (yes there are even more factors to consider, but this one remains)

So many leaks, so many experts, but I think I'll still wait for W1zzards comprehensive review and opinion above a lot of what I've read here. I truly didn't realise we have so many experts on yet unreleased products. Ya'll better start a GPU company and do better than AMD and Nvidia with how much you know.
 
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wolf said:
Indeed core for core, Turing smashes Pascal...
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It's become an unfortunate meme & probably a testament to Nv DX11 perf. TU coissue & esp 2xfp16 leaves prior arch well behind. Pure raster perf is just better in every way.

Although it's not long now, let's not halt the hype train just yet... Board samples have been with reviewers for some days. No official drivers. AIB cards >400W. Recommend min 750W PSU. AIBs estimating high prices - not official. I'll be particularly interested in the power consumption info of the SKUs. Let's see what TGP really means. I speculate 3080 10GB initially as GDDR6X supply ramps (& waitng to see what NV21/2 brings), then 3080 20GB. 3070 will be interesting.
 
rtwjunkie said:
All of you are assuming there will be a Super. Just because Nvidia did it one generation does not indicate if or in which follow-on generations it will be done again.
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Almost every generation had its updates. Whether they use a SUPER sticker for them is beside the point really. Pascal was constantly updated with new products that shaved off the sharp edges on every price point, too. It didn't improve much on performance (VRAM updates gave it 3-4% at the very best), but price wise got pretty competitive. Same thing for Turing's SUPER line up. The whole reason they gave that a special sticker was to re-launch the gen as the initial reception was lukewarm at best.

You get stickers when the original didn't get the expected outcome. Kepler was next level: they made it a whole refresh 'gen' with the 700 series. And not without reason, back then competition was fierce and they needed every last drop of mindshare and performance to keep up with AMD's 7970 and Hawaii. But realistically Kepler refresh was the same thing as SUPER. A few tiny performance bumps, and mostly a price/tier shift. The 780(ti) on the top-end could have had a place in the 600 stack no problem... but we got a dual GPU instead that nobody even looked at.
 
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Vayra86 said:
Almost every generation had its updates. Whether they use a SUPER sticker for them is beside the point really. Pascal was constantly updated with new products that shaved off the sharp edges on every price point, too. It didn't improve much on performance (VRAM updates gave it 3-4% at the very best), but price wise got pretty competitive. Same thing for Turing's SUPER line up. The whole reason they gave that a special sticker was to re-launch the gen as the initial reception was lukewarm at best.

You get stickers when the original didn't get the expected outcome. Kepler was next level: they made it a whole refresh 'gen' with the 700 series. And not without reason, back then competition was fierce and they needed every last drop of mindshare and performance to keep up with AMD's 7970 and Hawaii. But realistically Kepler refresh was the same thing as SUPER. A few tiny performance bumps, and mostly a price/tier shift. The 780(ti) on the top-end could have had a place in the 600 stack no problem... but we got a dual GPU instead that nobody even looked at.
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My point is the youngsters think there will be the large improvements at the level of the Super. Really, until we see what the performance is and how much headroom there is once the entire generation is released there is no way to anticipate and pin all of one’s hopes on a Super, as some of these people clearly are.

Every gen has had some special model or two when it could be improved upon, but it’s fantasy to pin your hopes on a whole lineup of Supers.
 
rtwjunkie said:
but it’s fantasy to pin your hopes on a whole lineup of Supers.
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Time will tell on this prediction.

But I see this as becoming commonplace, personally. It's easy to do and brings out a better card down the line.
 
EarthDog said:
Time will tell on this prediction.

But I see this as becoming commonplace, personally. It's easy to do and brings out a better card down the line.
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Maybe it will. I don’t deny it is a possibility. Planning your whole purchase cycle, hopes and dreams on something unannounced and not even hinted at yet is silly. My whole point was people act as if an announcement has been made.
 
rtwjunkie said:
Nope. I just have no evidence they will. People in this thread are openly speaking as if the Super is a given. That’s a huge difference.
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I just feel like they built the name so they won't let it go. It's branding and it draws attention.
 
So after the conference, the rumors were right all along about the 3070 being better than the 2080ti
 
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