wahdangunbecause every midrange card only have one?

and this is the "new" midrange card from amd ?

That is not true.... reference 5770's had a capability for 3 and 4 way Crossfire. I think the 5750 did to but that I am not sure on.

20mmrainThat is not true.... reference 5770's had a capability for 3 and 4 way Crossfire. I think the 5750 did to but that I am not sure on.

My Sapphire and XFX 5750's did

LoosenutMy Sapphire and XFX 5750's did

Well see there yah go.... I was just proving that just because they are mid level cards (6870's) Doesn't mean that other mid level cards haven't had 3 or 4 way crossfire in the past.

XFX moved to single crossfire connectors pretty quickly from the reference design.

Also, man when did XFX become so fucking shit?

look at how open that vent area is, nice! but no, xfx ruin it by putting their logo their, that won't affect airflow in the slightest will it xfx D:

So something that cost extra and reduces thermal performance?

Genius.

I know this has been said already, but I will say it again. THIS IS A FREAKIN' SMEXY CARD!!!

I wish this displayport crap would die already. I'd prefer two HDMI ports instead.

newtekie1I wish this displayport crap would die already. I'd prefer two HDMI ports instead.

100% Agreed. Display port is just too difficult to find in a relatively inexpensive monitor, while HDMI seems to be on about everything.

Displayport, AFAIK, is royalty-free...you're hoping for too much.

newtekie1I wish this displayport crap would die already. I'd prefer two HDMI ports instead.

based on the leaked slide you can use the HDMI with two DVI, so you don't have to buy DP monitor to be able nejoy triple monitor eyefinity, and you can always buy DVI to HDMI adapter

cadavecaDisplayport, AFAIK, is royalty-free...you're hoping for too much.

Royalty free doesn't mean jack if it is a pain in the ass to use.

The monitors with DP tend to be more expensive than the ones with HDMI/DVI, and the DRM causes more hassles than it is worth.

I'd rather pay a few bucks more for a video card with HDMI than $50+ more for a monitor with DP, or $30 for the DP to DVI adaptor. Or better yet, I'd just like to see 3 DVI ports, let me use adapters if I want something else since DVI can easily be converted to VGA or HDMI without the need for more costly active adapters.

wahdangunbased on the leaked slide you can use the HDMI with two DVI, so you don't have to buy DP monitor to be able nejoy triple monitor eyefinity, and you can always buy DVI to HDMI adapter

For some odd reason you HAVE to use the DP to use eyefinity...

But that wasn't my point, if they are going to waste PCB space, I'd rather see them use it for another HDMI port than two mini-DPs.

JATownes100% Agreed. Display port is just too difficult to find in a relatively inexpensive monitor, while HDMI seems to be on about everything.

Lets all stick with VGA guys!

seriously, how do you expect new standards to come forward if you don't let them.

pantherx12Lets all stick with VGA guys!

seriously, how do you expect new standards to come forward if you don't let them.

I'm all for new standards coming forward if they are actually better. I loved when DVI came about because it actually was better than VGA. HDMI is better than DVI because it carries sound and uses smaller easier to use connectors. But I see no advantage of DP over DVI/HDMI. If you can tell me some advantages, I'll gladdly agree with your comment though.

Seriously, why would you expect us to let new standards come forward if they aren't any better(arguably worse actually) than what we already have?

Well daisy chaining monitors with dp 1.2 is pretty fucking cool regardless of whether you'll be using it you have to agree :D

6 displays driven from two ports.

Not bad.

If they beefed up their gpus and had 8 ports that's 24 displays from one card potentially.

You have to look ahead not at the now : ]

pantherx12Well daisy chaining monitors with dp 1.2 is pretty fucking cool regardless of whether you'll be using it you have to agree :D

6 displays driven from two ports.

Not bad.

If they beefed up their gpus and had 8 ports that's 48 displays from one card potentially.

You have to look ahead not at the now : ]

( or you can use two display ports to drive a monitor that is twice the resolution supported by a single display port with 1.2 ( theoretically)


Sorry this was supposed to be an edit .

newtekie1I'm all for new standards coming forward if they are actually better. I loved when DVI came about because it actually was better than VGA. HDMI is better than DVI because it carries sound and uses smaller easier to use connectors. But I see no advantage of DP over DVI/HDMI. If you can tell me some advantages, I'll gladdly agree with your comment though.

Seriously, why would you expect us to let new standards come forward if they aren't any better(arguably worse actually) than what we already have?

Couldn't agree more. Besides, most "gamer's" displays don't have displayport. Eyefinity would be more popular if it was more affordable and DP on a monitor is usually more expensive.

@newtekie1
Don't really think it's meant as an upgrade, it's just there to complement HDMI. I agree in regards to the differences in the other standards being much more significant then DP, and as you said HDMI being much more widely available on monitors, it seems much more useful.

pantherx12Well daisy chaining monitors with dp 1.2 is pretty fucking cool regardless of whether you'll be using it you have to agree :D

6 displays driven from two ports.

Not bad.

If they beefed up their gpus and had 8 ports that's 24 displays from one card potentially.

You have to look ahead not at the now : ]

No, for a standard to be popular and worth while and succeed it needs to not only offer something potentially in the future, but also offer something over the competing standards now. Not to mention what it offers has to be practical.

If I want to drive 24 monitors, I'm probably not going to be using a gaming graphics card to do it. That is a place for a workstation card. Those 24 monitors are going to cost an arm and a leg compared to the same setup with multiple cards using a different standard. Oddly, for something royalty free, it sure does cost an assload of money to get.

The cost of DP monitors is due to the panel makers...you are barking up the wrong tree there.


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Yes, they are charging you extra just because they feel like it.


It's business, man, and it will always be that way. I'm not gonna compain about it, but I will give some facts surrounding the problem.

If you can't afford an extra $50, you aren't a real customer anyway. People like me, that don't give a shit, and buy every good that comes out...yes...it's US they listen to. Start buying stuff, and you might actually have a voice they listen to, up on that soapbox.


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newtekie1For some odd reason you HAVE to use the DP to use eyefinity...

But that wasn't my point, if they are going to waste PCB space, I'd rather see them use it for another HDMI port than two mini-DPs.

they have to use the DP because cypress just have two active TMDs thats why cypress can't drive 4 display(except if they use more DP), but with bart you can have 5 display with DVI+DVI+HDMI+miniDP+miniP, so it certainly bart can drive 3 display without any DP capable monitor,

and btw its not about the PCB but its the core that can't allow cypress to have more than two active TMDs

Because it's new man, new stuff you pay out the arse for.

Give it a few years and I'll bet it be standardised. Bet 12 euros! ( not my own ones, we have pounds here still he he)


Your expecting to much to soon IMO, you wouldn't expect a baby just born to talk or run now would you?

But you expect a fairly new standard to be cheap and out do the competition by a whole bunch?

1.2 makes it beat the competition, that's out soon which means it will start being used more widely and won't cost a lot to use.


It's the tech world man, that process is standard with everything.

so this isn't going to be the high end single cards in the the series right the 69XX(cayman) will and the 699X(antilies) will be the dual right

We do not comment on unreleased products. :laugh:

pantherx12Because it's new man, new stuff you pay out the arse for.

Give it a few years and I'll bet it be standardised. Bet 12 euros! ( not my own ones, we have pounds here still he he)


Your expecting to much to soon IMO, you wouldn't expect a baby just born to talk or run now would you?

But you expect a fairly new standard to be cheap and out do the competition by a whole bunch?

1.2 makes it beat the competition, that's out soon which means it will start being used more widely and won't cost a lot to use.


It's the tech world man, that process is standard with everything.

No, I don't pay out the ass for new stuff.:laugh:

I'm not expecting too much too soon. Why is expecting it to actually be better expecting too much? I'm not asking for it to blow the competition away. I'm just asking that it offer the consumer something now. I don't believe the consumer should be paying for something now with the promise that it might be better in the future if we just wait long enough. I likely won't even have the GPU when it finally becomes better, so give me something that I can actually use now.

I'm not saying DP doesn't have a place, put it on workstations cards, but don't put it on gaming cards targetted at an audience that almost no one will have monitors that support it.

And if that baby was put into a marathon with fully developed runners, I certainly would expect it to run right away and I would expect it to run faster too, or it will lose the marathon won't it?

newtekie1No, I don't pay out the ass for new stuff.:laugh:


I'm not saying DP doesn't have a place, put it on workstations cards, but don't put it on gaming cards targetted at an audience that almost no one will have monitors that support it.

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lulz at the first bit :laugh:

Not many support it now, but that's what I'm saying more will, and then it will be less of a fuss eh lol

And I'd say the 1.2 rev of DP is the WIN compared to other connection types available at the moment.

But that's just me, I think the daisey chain feature is neato :laugh:

newtekie1No, I don't pay out the ass for new stuff.:laugh:

Great, but those features are there for those that do. You can't blame any company for trying to cater to those that WILL and DO pay high premiums for tech that barely works right...those people are the ones paying to make it better.

All you do is complain about it. Great. That solves what, exactly? You expect them to develop new products without cash?

People have to buy the products before they will make them work right. If you want something to get better, you need to invest in it, not complain about it.

FYI, those that use eyefinity will be using DP only. I mentioned before, take a look at all the problems I'm having, and you'll know exactly what they are going to change with this gen...