Prices go up again compared to previous generation.

This was one impressive GPU launch.

Faster than a Titan at almost 1/3 the price. Shut-up and take my money.

ChaitanyaPrices go up again compared to previous generation.

Yep, 50 more $ for the *70 series I think is also too much. Performance is there thou, so the ball is in AMD's court now in order to force nGreedia to lower the prices.
However, I think they will milk those for a long time...

Technically, if it is only faster than the Titan-X, which is not faster than a 980Ti, then that makes the 1070 the THIRD-fastest in existence, not the second.

ChaitanyaPrices go up again compared to previous generation.

....so does performance...your getting pretty much a Titian X($1199.99) for $379.99...thats awesome in any currency, language or unit of measurement. I think nvidia been doing surprisingly well in this area lately. Of course there will be price gouging galore.

rtwjunkieTechnically, if it is only faster than the Titan-X, which is not faster than a 980Ti, then that makes the 1070 the THIRD-fastest in existence, not the second.

3rd fastest card for 379.00. Yep I'm in. Bargain in my book.

I'd like to add that AMD sounds like it's going to be bringing some pretty good performing cards this time around too. So, hopefully we'll have a little price competition to drive these prices down. Also I think most e-tailers end up being cheaper than the MSRP not too long after launch, but I may be mistaken. I think the 1070 is a good value even in the $350-$400 price range, assuming the performance is there of course. Hopefully they OC well too.

Well i know what my next gpu may possibly end up being!

According to the latest GTX 980 Ti review here: www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/23.html

A Titan X is indeed a bit faster than a reference GTX 980 Ti, of course very few people buy one with stock clocks, but still the article is technically correct.

Prima.VeraYep, 50 more $ for the *70 series I think is also too much. Performance is there thou, so the ball is in AMD's court now in order to force nGreedia to lower the prices.
However, I think they will milk those for a long time...

It's a very big increase in performance/price for one generation.

AMD isn't in a position to get in a price war with anybody. They will price their GPUs just cheap enough to be competitive with Nvidia. I'm sure AMD has been hoping and praying that Nvidia will high ball the price so they can do the same and actually make some good margins for a change.

I think this will be my next GPU purchase. I'd like to grab a 1080 but the price is just too steep for me despite its performance.

I'm sweating right now for AMD...hope they bring something to the table as well.

Prima.VeraYep, 50 more $ for the *70 series I think is also too much. Performance is there thou, so the ball is in AMD's court now in order to force nGreedia to lower the prices.
However, I think they will milk those for a long time...

Last thing AMD need to start is a price war, they should just match it.

ChaitanyaPrices go up again compared to previous generation.

So did my salary, as did my mortgage and property price, so quit your yakking.

pedromvuA Titan X is indeed a bit faster than a reference GTX 980 Ti, of course very few people buy one with stock clocks, but still the article is technically correct.

Except for one minor detail, which you do point out, but others overlook. All the manufacturers AIB 980Ti's easily outperform the Titan-X.

Did anyone even buy one reference? Maybe .01% of the buyers. So the real 980Ti's in existence are all the aftermarket ones which all beat reference, and all their reviews can be checked. That's what you really want if you want to compare chips.

rtwjunkieExcept for one minor detail, which you do point out, but others overlook. All the manufacturers AIB 980Ti's easily outperform the Titan-X.

Did anyone even buy one reference? Maybe .01% of the buyers. So the real 980Ti's in existence are all the aftermarket ones which all beat reference, and all their reviews can be checked. That's what you really want if you want to compare chips.

right... so all the aftermarket 1070's will beat the reference 1070's, whats the point you are trying to make here?

arterius2right... so all the aftermarket 1070's will beat the reference 1070's, whats the point you are trying to make here?

Compare the cards to the actual clocks of the many 980Ti's reviewed by W1z, and see the actual speeds of the cards that are actually sold and used. It's plainly obvious.

As long as there's no memory issue like 7.5 fast memory and .5 slow memory..... well at that size of frame buffer wouldn't matter.... sign me up for two point five cards.

rtwjunkieCompare the cards to the actual clocks of the many 980Ti's reviewed by W1z, and see the actual speeds of the cards that are actually sold and used. It's plainly obvious.

heh, I get that, you are saying, "hey you shouldn't compare reference 1070s to the reference TitanX, instead you should compare it to the aftermarket 980Ti, because most people buy them", when you are making statements like these, you are giving your own argument unfair advantage, and pretend like you didn't know about it. Instead, you should say, lets compare aftermarket 1070s to aftermarket 980Tis since both will take advantage of the extra cooling. Makes sense?

rtwjunkieExcept for one minor detail, which you do point out, but others overlook. All the manufacturers AIB 980Ti's easily outperform the Titan-X.

Did anyone even buy one reference? Maybe .01% of the buyers. So the real 980Ti's in existence are all the aftermarket ones which all beat reference, and all their reviews can be checked. That's what you really want if you want to compare chips.

That doesn't matter. When nVidia is talking, they are talking reference cards. The factory overclocked partner cards aren't part of the picture. The Titan X overclocked still beats the 980Ti anyway, but no AIBs put out factory overclocked Titan X cards(because nVidia didn't allow it?).

The fact is, when the GPUs leave nVidia, the Titan X GPU is more powerful than the 980Ti. That is all the matters for this comparison, and the reason they aren't comparing it to the 980Ti.

arterius2heh, I get that, you are saying, "hey you shouldn't compare reference 1070s to the reference TitanX, instead you should compare it to the aftermarket 980Ti, because most people buy them", when you are making statements like these, you are giving your own argument unfair advantage, and pretend like you didn't know about it. Instead, you should say, lets compare aftermarket 1070s to aftermarket 980Tis since both will take advantage of the extra cooling. Makes sense?

Yes! I completely agree.

rtwjunkieYes! I completely agree.

What did i tell you!!! x70 faster than last gen fastest! :slap:

Yes TitanX like Perf. in VR only..
Its a big marketing stunt to make people gasp for air, I mean just mention the word Titan and then new gpu at "cheap" this will sell! lol


By normal scenario it will be slower.. I mean 1080GTX is ~ 15-20% faster vs stock 980Ti at 1164mhz boost, for 600€ or 700€+ SE 2GHz guarantied binned gpus hah,
so ~ 30-35% faster then stock 980Ti or ~ 10-15% once both OC'ed..

Imo 980 and 980Ti users can easily pass on this one and wait for either big pascal or Volta.. If 980Ti can't do 4K to the max, Im sure 1080GTX won't either, not at 60fps+ in more demanding games...

newtekie1That doesn't matter. When nVidia is talking, they are talking reference cards. The factory overclocked partner cards aren't part of the picture. The Titan X overclocked still beats the 980Ti anyway, but no AIBs put out factory overclocked Titan X cards(because nVidia didn't allow it?).

The fact is, when the GPUs leave nVidia, the Titan X GPU is more powerful than the 980Ti. That is all the matters for this comparison, and the reason they aren't comparing it to the 980Ti.

Exactly, what i was going to write.

Overclocked Titan X with custom Cooling:

www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/12288MB-Inno3D-GeForce-GTX-Titan-X-iChill-Black-Accelero-Hybrid-S-Hybrid_1026513.html

980 Ti btw never was faster, overclocked 980 Ti is faster, yes, but you can overclock Titan X too - 3072 Shaders can't possibly lose to 2816. And don't argue with better cooling, people spending 1000$ on a card can easily get a watercooled Titan X and overclock it to Mars, or the custom solution I just posted (that already has +100MHz OC included).

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Wow, great performance. I think the 1080 will stay the fastest card, 1070 will fight against AMD cards for 2nd place (like GTX 570 vs. HD 6970 back then, with the GTX 580 alone on the top). But we will only know that for sure after the AMD cards are announced & tested (also the NV ones of course).