Monday, October 2nd 2023

Canada Computers Listed "Up-to-date" 14th Gen Core Prices

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By error, over the weekend Canada Computers published prices of upcoming Raptor Lake Refresh desktop CPUs—a competing national store, PC-Canada, also prematurely leaked placeholder charges midway through September. Analysis of last month's figures revealed a 4% (on average) price hike over equivalent 13th Gen Core predecessors, although that information could be out-of-date by now. The numbers released by Canada Computers (now removed from their searchable database) are alleged to be closer to the final article, since we are nearing Intel's October 16th launch day of higher-end 14th Gen Core SKUs, comprised of K and KF variants.

A VideoCardz reader, Kithana, managed to log all of the gory details prior to Canada Computers removing all traces of embargo-busting data. Their news section has pored over the numbers: "A quick check reveals that new SKUs are expected to see an increase ranging from 0% to 7%. Particularly noteworthy is the fact that the upcoming next-gen Core i5-14600KF is currently listed at the same price point as its predecessor, 13600KF, at $399 CAD. Notably, not present is the Core i9-14900K model on this list."
Intel 13th Gen vs. 14th Gen Core pricing (CAD):
  • Core i9-13900K → Core i9-14900K: $769 → (missing)
  • Core i9-13900KF → Core i9-14900KF: $739 → $779 (+5%)
  • Core i7-13700K → Core i7-14700K: $579 → $589 (+2%)
  • Core i7-13700KF → Core i7-14700KF: $529 → $549 (+4%)
  • Core i5-13600K → Core i5-14600K: $419 → $449 (+7%)
  • Core i5-13600KF → Core i5-14600KF: $399 → $399 (+0%)
Sources: Wccftech, TweakTown, VideoCardz (source info & chart)

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19 Comments on Canada Computers Listed "Up-to-date" 14th Gen Core Prices

#1
ZoneDymo
waaay too expensive for what they are.
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#2
CrAsHnBuRnXp
ZoneDymowaaay too expensive for what they are.
Welcome to the world right now.
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#3
bonehead123
CrAsHnBuRnXpWelcome to the world right now.
Yep, it's da world where inflation & greed rulz, and po folks droolz :(
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#4
Ed_1
That is Canada, US retailers will be diff story I am sure.

Right now at MicroCenter, the prices are
13900k=550.98
13700k= 374.98
13600k= 299.99
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#5
Upgrayedd
Thankfully after 14th gen they'll be done with the DDR4 support. If only motherboards could come down a bit like RAM and storage has then the cpu prices wouldn't hurt so much.
bonehead123Yep, it's da world where inflation & greed rulz, and po folks droolz :(
Why tho
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#6
sLowEnd
UpgrayeddThankfully after 14th gen they'll be done with the DDR4 support. If only motherboards could come down a bit like RAM and storage has then the cpu prices wouldn't hurt so much.
IMO Intel's boards are pretty reasonably priced for the most part at the moment. It's a big part of the reason why I went with an Intel build recently, actually.
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#7
Upgrayedd
sLowEndIMO Intel's boards are pretty reasonably priced for the most part at the moment. It's a big part of the reason why I went with an Intel build recently, actually.
Think I paid like $215 for a Z97 Maximus Hero. A new one is like $600 now. They're out of control.
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#8
Ed_1
UpgrayeddThink I paid like $215 for a Z97 Maximus Hero. A new one is like $600 now. They're out of control.
I think I paid 285 or so for Z690 TUF Plus wifi D4, the only thing I would of like it had was flashback , other than that most of the MB are pretty feature rich.
But I agree the higher end MB are getting out of control.
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#9
pressing on
UpgrayeddThink I paid like $215 for a Z97 Maximus Hero. A new one is like $600 now. They're out of control.
So how much would that $215 be now, allowing for inflation. There seem to be plenty of Intel Z790 boards at reasonable prices, for example the Asus ROG Strix Z790-F Gaming WiFi at around $370. Virtually all 12th and 13th Gen motherboards will have BIOS, ME firmware, ME driver and chipset driver updates available to support the new Gen (14th) CPUs. So 14th Gen CPU upgrades, if you want to go that route, are easy to do with existing boards.
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#10
sLowEnd
UpgrayeddThink I paid like $215 for a Z97 Maximus Hero. A new one is like $600 now. They're out of control.
High end boards are pretty expensive, yeah, but high end boards today are a lot more overbuilt than they used to be. That Z97 board's build is more comparable to a midrange board these days, and those are not that much more expensive than what you paid, especially after taking inflation into account.
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#11
BArms
I just built a 7800X3D system, knowing 14th gen are almost here. I think what Intel is doing with efficiency cores are great on laptops, but on desktops they're mostly pointless. When *really* using all cores for a truly multi-threaded app they're just fine but the vast majority of apps and modern games don't scale beyond 1-4 cores very much at all so having a billion efficiency cores wouldn't help most people either.
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#12
dj-electric
BArmsI just built a 7800X3D system, knowing 14th gen are almost here. I think what Intel is doing with efficiency cores are great on laptops, but on desktops they're mostly pointless. When *really* using all cores for a truly multi-threaded app they're just fine but the vast majority of apps and modern games don't scale beyond 1-4 cores very much at all so having a billion efficiency cores wouldn't help most people either.
E cores are not meant for heavy programs to scale for them, but the opposite. They are built to consume and handle background noise and lighter tasks.
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#13
FoulOnWhite
dj-electricE cores are not meant for heavy programs to scale for them, but the opposite. They are built to consume and handle background noise and lighter tasks.
Some people just don't understand the point of E cores. How strange though now that AMD is coming along with their take on efficiency cores. Pot kettle maybe somewhat
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#14
maxfly
sLowEndIMO Intel's boards are pretty reasonably priced for the most part at the moment. It's a big part of the reason why I went with an Intel build recently, actually.
Same here. Mostly I got tired of waiting for AMD to release the 7 series and after seeing the pre-release mb prices it was a hard pass. Z790s were the easy choice.
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#15
iameatingjam
Not as bad as I would have expected actually, based on some previous rumours.
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#16
BArms
FoulOnWhiteSome people just don't understand the point of E cores. How strange though now that AMD is coming along with their take on efficiency cores. Pot kettle maybe somewhat
AMD isn't making true E Cores, they're the same cores just not allowed to turbo as high from what I read and we don't know how many cores will be in each SKU.

But my point wasn't that e cores are bad, just that for Gaming (and most other apps) they're not very useful. P cores can handle background tasks just fine. I would trade every intel E core for more cache any day and I can't figure out why intel keeps cramming a ton of e cores in other than they get free practice with their fab process in selling dies that will never actually get used to their full potential because there's virtually no code that can use 12 or 16 or 32 cores and likely won't anytime soon.
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#17
FoulOnWhite
BArmsAMD isn't making true E Cores, they're the same cores just not allowed to turbo as high from what I read and we don't know how many cores will be in each SKU.

But my point wasn't that e cores are bad, just that for Gaming (and most other apps) they're not very useful. P cores can handle background tasks just fine. I would trade every intel E core for more cache any day and I can't figure out why intel keeps cramming a ton of e cores in other than they get free practice with their fab process in selling dies that will never actually get used to their full potential because there's virtually no code that can use 12 or 16 or 32 cores and likely won't anytime soon.
Probably because the P cores use too much power, and no denying the E cores do give a good boost to MP, so more E cores means better MP without the big power increase more P cores would mean.
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#18
iameatingjam
FoulOnWhiteProbably because the P cores use too much power, and no denying the E cores do give a good boost to MP, so more E cores means better MP without the big power increase more P cores would mean.
Exactly. And then you can still sell it as a high core count cpu, too... without having to shrink the process.
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#19
Upgrayedd
sLowEndHigh end boards are pretty expensive, yeah, but high end boards today are a lot more overbuilt than they used to be. That Z97 board's build is more comparable to a midrange board these days, and those are not that much more expensive than what you paid, especially after taking inflation into account.
CPU prices haven't tripled since. Motherboards shouldn't triple in price after 9 years.
pressing onSo how much would that $215 be now, allowing for inflation. There seem to be plenty of Intel Z790 boards at reasonable prices, for example the Asus ROG Strix Z790-F Gaming WiFi at around $370. Virtually all 12th and 13th Gen motherboards will have BIOS, ME firmware, ME driver and chipset driver updates available to support the new Gen (14th) CPUs. So 14th Gen CPU upgrades, if you want to go that route, are easy to do with existing boards.
$600 should get you the absolute baddest mobo on the planet. Not a glorified mainstream board. $370 to ASUS for a non maximus board is just a straight ripoff.
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