Monday, December 25th 2023
ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual OC Snapped—Goodbye 8-pin
Here are some of the first pictures of the ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual OC, the company's close-to-MSRP custom-design implementation of the upcoming RTX 4070 SUPER, which is expected to be announced on January 8, with reviews and retail availability a week later. The card very closely resembles the design of the RTX 4070 Dual OC, but with one major difference—the single 8-pin PCIe power connector makes way for a 16-pin 12VHPWR. Considering that the ASUS Dual OC series tends to come with a nominal factory OC at power limits matching NVIDIA reference, this is the first sign that the RTX 4070 SUPER in general might have typical graphics power (TGP) above what a single 8-pin could fulfill, and so we've given a 12VHPWR, just like every RTX 4070 Ti. The cards will include an NVIDIA-designed adapter that converts two 8-pin PCIe to a 12VHPWR, with its signal pins set to tell the graphics card that it can deliver 300 W of continuous power.
The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER is based on the same AD104 silicon as the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti, with its ASIC code rumored to be "AD104-350." The SKU allegedly enables 56 out of 60 streaming multiprocessors (SM) present on the silicon, giving it 7,168 out of 7,680 CUDA cores. This is a big increase from the 5,888 CUDA cores (46 SM) that the vanilla RTX 4070 is configured with. The memory subsystem is expected to be unchanged from the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti—12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X across a 192-bit memory interface; leaving NVIDIA with one possible lever, the ROP count. While the RTX 4070 Ti has 80 ROPs, the RTX 4070 has 64. It remains to be seen how many the RTX 4070 SUPER gets. Its rumored TGP of 225 W is behind the switch to 12VHPWR connectors.
Sources:
momomo_us (Twitter), VideoCardz
The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER is based on the same AD104 silicon as the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti, with its ASIC code rumored to be "AD104-350." The SKU allegedly enables 56 out of 60 streaming multiprocessors (SM) present on the silicon, giving it 7,168 out of 7,680 CUDA cores. This is a big increase from the 5,888 CUDA cores (46 SM) that the vanilla RTX 4070 is configured with. The memory subsystem is expected to be unchanged from the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti—12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X across a 192-bit memory interface; leaving NVIDIA with one possible lever, the ROP count. While the RTX 4070 Ti has 80 ROPs, the RTX 4070 has 64. It remains to be seen how many the RTX 4070 SUPER gets. Its rumored TGP of 225 W is behind the switch to 12VHPWR connectors.
54 Comments on ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual OC Snapped—Goodbye 8-pin
exactly2x as the original 4070, no wait this is an Nvidia card :nutkick:It is wild how a 4060, a card much maligned by the enthusiast community, is still arguably the best value out of all 40-series lineup.
+ 12 GB (not a very great number overall, yet compared to 4060 series...)
+ $ per FPS ratio at 4K is near identical to 4060, yet a bit worse at 1440p/1080p (4070 even becomes better $ per FPS in the most demanding games, however)
+ Full 16 lane PCI-e interface
+ Is actually capable of some ray tracing even with DLSS and FG disabled in some games
The only reasons to prefer 4060 over 4070 are budget and size/wattage restrictions. The former, however, feels more like an excuse.Unlikely. 550 is as unlikely. I'd expect $600...650. Reasonably overpriced that is.
Does 12vhp have any significant advantage? Like it catches fire more quickly? I don't think I want fireworks in my PC.
Make a change when a change is needed or necessary, otherwise it's useless.
Well, 8-pin + 6-pin would do. I don't blame them if one 12vhp costs a lot less.
As for the 4070 S.. its just as DOA as a 4070ti, limited through VRAM both bandwidth and capacity... pointless release.
and yes the nice thing about the new connector is components being able to communicate load. If you have a billion Watt intel cpu having a gpu that could request a pittance of the power budget is nice.
"Old school" PSUs ran multi-GPU + multi-CPU or other devilish power hog configs for ages without a hinch, and now, nVidia are introducing an "intelligent" cable that tells the GPU how much it can draw. How many things can go horribly wrong? All of them. The controller might bug out and misinterpret the readings, ultimately leading your GPU to (a lesser evil) underperform due to insufficient power or (a bigger evil) blow up due to excessive power. It might also die, ultimately bricking the PSU and, if everything went south, the rest of PC. Of course these are ridiculously rare occasions but this happens to "smart" TVs, fridges, automobiles etc, so why should PSUs be any different?
All reasonable PC builders take power spikes and going over limits on all their components into account and purchase respective "overkill" PSUs for ages. Additional layer of "safety" only removes said safety in long term. Classic 8-pin connectors are time tested, approved, are not misdesigned, they are widely available and can withstand stupid high amounts of wattage. With AWG16, you are likely to feed any existing mass market GPU only off of one 8-pin. And their main advantage is that they don't decide what's best for your components, they just do their job.
K.I.S.S.
It's okay to only sell enthusiast class wares with not-so-widely spread interfaces. There is absolutely no reason other than monopolist ambitions to force this connector in other segments.
There is an adaptor included with every sold GPU with 12VHPWR connector
Better luck trolling next time.
2. You saying the included adapter is unsafe, which is also false
3. You saying I was trolling when you are giving out false information like it's normal LOL
nvidia was the first mainstream component producer to bring it to market, but it’s a standard he rest of the industry will soon follow.
Don't like using 2 connectors? Use just one, an 8 pin molex can easily handle 300w, the 150w was decided by PCI sig because they didn't think more would ever be necessary when they wrote the standard, this would be a simpler, cheaper and safer solution than the new connector.
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www.notebookcheck.net/Seasonic-recommends-using-hair-dryer-for-bending-RTX-40-series-power-cables.787446.0.html
I just saw this, seriously what the fuck!? Tell me again this is a good connector, I dare you