Nvidiacontrolpanel Displaysettings missing

[Liberte]

This is how the controlpanel looks for me

This is how it should look like

Whats going on there, why am i missing all these graphics settings? I reinstalled around four times, trying out both the notebook driver and the default version, same issue.
Tried with nvcleanstall and the default driver without modification but the problem presists, any advice? The os is windows 10 22h2 running on a asus tuf f15 laptop.
The laptop is advertised with 144hz but i cannot change the refreshrate in the nvcontrolpanel or the windows settings, its locked to 64hz instead.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Have you read the news... this panel is EOL

NVIDIA GeForce 551.61 WHQL with RTX HDR Released, NVIDIA Finally Has a Modern Control Panel

NVIDIA today released the latest version of GeForce drivers. While the actual driver package of the new GeForce 551.61 is WHQL, it also includes a beta version of the NVIDIA App. This is NVIDIA's take on a modern control panel application that combines functionality of the classic NVIDIA Control...

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Also run up MyASUS app to check for new GPU vbios. There so many variations of those, I can't remember all, imho it was normal that nothing is shown in this panel using hybrid graphics.

 

[Liberte]

Have you read the news... this panel is EOL

NVIDIA GeForce 551.61 WHQL with RTX HDR Released, NVIDIA Finally Has a Modern Control Panel

NVIDIA today released the latest version of GeForce drivers. While the actual driver package of the new GeForce 551.61 is WHQL, it also includes a beta version of the NVIDIA App. This is NVIDIA's take on a modern control panel application that combines functionality of the classic NVIDIA Control...

www.techpowerup.com

Also run up MyASUS app to check for new GPU vbios. There so many variations of those, I can't remember all, imho it was normal that nothing is shown in this panel using hybrid graphics.

I did hear that and saw this thread https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...the-end-of-nvcleanstall-as-we-know-it.319452/

But i dont think this has anything to do with the issue im having with the asus tuf f15 laptop nvidiacontrolpanel.

 

[Ferrum Master]

the asus tuf f15 laptop nvidiacontrolpanel.

Could you give a precise name of the device?

 

[xtreemchaos]

My laptop shows the same, tell the truth i havn't missed them.

 

[dgianstefani]

I did hear that and saw this thread https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...the-end-of-nvcleanstall-as-we-know-it.319452/

But i dont think this has anything to do with the issue im having with the asus tuf f15 laptop nvidiacontrolpanel.

Use official NVIDIA drivers installed through NVCleaninstall - you probably have "customised" Asus drivers which offer no tangible benefit.

NVCleanstall v1.16.0 Download

NVCleanstall lets you customize the NVIDIA GeForce Driver package by removing components that you don't need (or want). This not only keeps things ti

www.techpowerup.com

My advice, also use display driver uninstaller, disable automatic update of drivers, then restart, to ensure you're actually running clean and fresh drivers and not whatever Windows Update or ASUS has bothered to release.

The only two components you need, plus optimus since you're on laptop, even Physx isn't really necessary.

You can make NVCleaninstall create a repacked .exe file with the driver settings you've chosen, this will help with any future issues as you can just use that to quickly patch.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The real culprit usually is not the nvidia but intel driver in these cases...

 

[Liberte]

Could you give a precise name of the device?

My laptop shows the same, tell the truth i havn't missed them.

so? this isnt helpful.
its not only the nvcontrolpanel settings that are missing but most importantly i cannot change the resolution and refreshrate, the laptop is clearly advertised with 144hz but this one is stuck at 64, i can see that in the windows display settings when inspecting the properties tab.

Use official NVIDIA drivers installed through NVCleaninstall - you probably have "customised" Asus drivers which offer no tangible benefit.

NVCleanstall v1.16.0 Download

NVCleanstall lets you customize the NVIDIA GeForce Driver package by removing components that you don't need (or want). This not only keeps things ti

www.techpowerup.com

My advice, also use display driver uninstaller, disable automatic update of drivers, then restart, to ensure you're actually running clean and fresh drivers and not whatever Windows Update or ASUS has bothered to release.

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The only two components you need, plus optimus since you're on laptop, even Physx isn't really necessary.

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You can make NVCleaninstall create a repacked .exe file with the driver settings you've chosen, this will help with any future issues as you can just use that to quickly patch.

I already reinstalled the graphics driver around four times, the customized one from nvcleanstall and the standalone i got from the nvidia driver website, i was using DDU for that as admin in safemode.
I used the same settings you showed on the screenshot with nvcleanstall.
The windows10 i run is massively debloated, i have a firewall so there is no windows update or any kind of garbage bloatware, i installed everything manually.
As far as drivers go i installed the cpu chipset and graphicsdriver but the later one doesnt work correctly.
In device manager under displayadapter i see both the nvidia rtx 3050 and the microsoft basic display adapter.
In the bios i looked through everything but cannot find an option regarding nvidia optimus or iGPU or pcie, there is armoury-crate which i disabled and reenabled if that has anything to do with it?
Im sure nvcleanstall has nothing to do with the problems im having but i thought it might be worth asking this forum since there probably are some "smart bastards" around here, thanks for helping.
Oh right, in the nvpanel i set the preffered graphics processor to "nvidia high performance processor", that didnt change anything really.

On reddit i just found a comment saying this:
"Those settings will not be available because the laptop is using Optimus graphic switching, and since it's a 2021 model, it doesn't have a MUX switch."
Am i f*cked? (edit, but honestly it doesnt make sense the laptop says clearly 144hz there must be a way to use that)

 

[Ferrum Master]

So it is a FX507ZC, that's the real name.

• Launch myASUS, it has vbios update.

• Install correct intel drivers, WU does act funny(when it ain't) currently it installs some old 2019 drivers for certain iGPU that causes havoc. DDU and install normal drivers, WU will install again the old ones, just use update driver and pick the new one.

If all fails... you have to install all other ASUS shit, ie Display Control and Crate and to see if they had made the code fixes there.

 

[Liberte]

So it is a FX507ZC, that's the real name.

• Launch myASUS, it has vbios update.

• Install correct intel drivers, WU does act funny(when it ain't) currently it installs some old 2019 drivers for certain iGPU that causes havoc. DDU and install normal drivers, WU will install again the old ones, just use update driver and pick the new one.

If all fails... you have to install all other ASUS shit, ie Display Control and Crate and to see if they had made the code fixes there.

Aplogies but, could you be more precise? What's myASUS i don't have that, asuming it's software you're saying i will have to download and install and run, if it's only because of the bios-update, i would have gone to the manufacturers-website and download the latest bios there and flash it manually with usb.

What do you mean by "correct intel drivers", what drivers do i need? The only thing i installed is the chipset, isn't that all i need?
When you say "update driver and pick the new one" are you reffering to the devicemanager? I saw such an option there.

What i would try now, unless you have a better plan, is disable armourycrate in bios since it doesnt seem to be required for anything, download the latest bios from the support website and flash it, if the display settings are still missing in the nvpanel i would DDU and reinstall with nvcleanstall and if that doesnt fix it try the normal driver, if that doesnt work either i have no idea.

 

[dgianstefani]

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so? this isnt helpful.
its not only the nvcontrolpanel settings that are missing but most importantly i cannot change the resolution and refreshrate, the laptop is clearly advertised with 144hz but this one is stuck at 64, i can see that in the windows display settings when inspecting the properties tab.


I already reinstalled the graphics driver around four times, the customized one from nvcleanstall and the standalone i got from the nvidia driver website, i was using DDU for that as admin in safemode.
I used the same settings you showed on the screenshot with nvcleanstall.
The windows10 i run is massively debloated, i have a firewall so there is no windows update or any kind of garbage bloatware, i installed everything manually.
As far as drivers go i installed the cpu chipset and graphicsdriver but the later one doesnt work correctly.
In device manager under displayadapter i see both the nvidia rtx 3050 and the microsoft basic display adapter.
In the bios i looked through everything but cannot find an option regarding nvidia optimus or iGPU or pcie, there is armoury-crate which i disabled and reenabled if that has anything to do with it?
Im sure nvcleanstall has nothing to do with the problems im having but i thought it might be worth asking this forum since there probably are some "smart bastards" around here, thanks for helping.
Oh right, in the nvpanel i set the preffered graphics processor to "nvidia high performance processor", that didnt change anything really.

On reddit i just found a comment saying this:
"Those settings will not be available because the laptop is using Optimus graphic switching, and since it's a 2021 model, it doesn't have a MUX switch."
Am i f*cked? (edit, but honestly it doesnt make sense the laptop says clearly 144hz there must be a way to use that)

While this is a good idea generally, it can also cause some drivers and software to not work correctly.

If you create a disk partition and install clean Windows on it, unmodified, try installing the graphics drivers then, and see if you have the same issue.

Rather than trying to "fix" consumer editions of Windows, it's often more practical to install LTSC, and do more minor levels of tweaks.

Following a comprehensive guide can also help avoid any pitfalls in manual tuning, especially if you're having problems.

GitHub - amitxv/PC-Tuning: Guidance to configure Windows based systems for real-time tasks

Guidance to configure Windows based systems for real-time tasks - amitxv/PC-Tuning

github.com

 

[Solaris17]

It may also be a problem caused by your windows debloating. You my have inadvertently removed some prerequisite or dependency.

 

[Ferrum Master]

So bit by bit...

It is shitsus. If you expect, you can install a plain Windows OS and even more cut it down... nope... it won't work... ASUS tends to leave more and more custom controls via their control interface and make some HW solution in laptops pretty weird in a proprietary HW manner. The ones have a screen in touchpad are rather cuckoo without using their software to tame their fetish approach making those work.

I am asking you to launch their myASUS app found in microsoft store... unlike any other stuff myASUS works pretty fine checking up if their specific HW needs firmware updates, that are often not found on their site. It includes, vbios, bios, ssd BIOS, touchpad FW, USB PD FW, battery FW, etc etc things... that NEEDs to be updated always. And it is the most easy way to do so.

You need INTEL GPU drivers. The laptop does not ship with win10 support, so it may rely on a specific feature, thus you cannot enable more than 64Hz on intel GPU which are you using and the screen eDP is hooked on.

 

[Liberte]

Just a short update, i searched here to the bios https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/asus tuf gaming f15/helpdesk_manual/
but the specific laptop model i have is not showing up in the results

While this is a good idea generally, it can also cause some drivers and software to not work correctly.

If you create a disk partition and install clean Windows on it, unmodified, try installing the graphics drivers then, and see if you have the same issue.

Rather than trying to "fix" consumer editions of Windows, it's often more practical to install LTSC, and do more minor levels of tweaks.

Following a comprehensive guide can also help avoid any pitfalls in manual tuning, especially if you're having problems.

GitHub - amitxv/PC-Tuning: Guidance to configure Windows based systems for real-time tasks

Guidance to configure Windows based systems for real-time tasks - amitxv/PC-Tuning

github.com

I have no issues with the debloating i do, the steps listed in the guide you shared are pretty similar if not same what i do, just that im using windows pro, but i also dont pay for a license.

It may also be a problem caused by your windows debloating. You my have inadvertently removed some prerequisite or dependency.

I dont think this is the case.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Just a short update, i searched here to the bios

Dude... why are so hooked up naming the device in marketing names that say nothing... it is like calling Porche 911, but what year and engine?

You have a FX507ZC, as you showed in the screenshot and that is the model you have to seek. You have a QR code on the bottom case, take the phone and scan it... it will link to the support download page.

Did you do my recommendations?

 

[Liberte]

So bit by bit...

It is shitsus. If you expect, you can install a plain Windows OS and even more cut it down... nope... it won't work... ASUS tends to leave more and more custom controls via their control interface and make some HW solution in laptops pretty weird in a proprietary HW manner. The ones have a screen in touchpad are rather cuckoo without using their software to tame their fetish approach making those work.

I am asking you to launch their myASUS app found in microsoft store... unlike any other stuff myASUS works pretty fine checking up if their specific HW needs firmware updates, that are often not found on their site. It includes, vbios, bios, ssd BIOS, touchpad FW, USB PD FW, battery FW, etc etc things... that NEEDs to be updated always. And it is the most easy way to do so.

You need INTEL GPU drivers. The laptop does not ship with win10 support, so it may rely on a specific feature, thus you cannot enable more than 64Hz on intel GPU which are you using and the screen eDP is hooked on.

I dont use microsoft store, microsoft is a disgusting company with an os that acts as if it was malware.
But i know how to get store apps without using the store, thanks to chris titustech.
I have always debloated windows before using it and i certainly wouldnt touch windows at all without debloating it first, now some people here argue that my debloating might have caused the issue im having but thats sounds pretty silly for me, because if you look around the internet you will find a tons of people having the exact same problem with the same laptop and even other devices and guess what they didnt debloat sh!t. I dont randomly delete system32 components, my debloating is not of concern here.

So, i went here https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/fx506hc/helpdesk_download/
and found the latest chipset is from 2021, after installing it was prompted to reboot and did so, now in programs and features the chipset doesnt show up, is this normal?
I can confirm the chipset was installed because the driver folder with intel chipset in it is present in C:\

Indeed it is true this crap laptop doesnt support windows10 but only 11 which i wouldnt call an operatingsystem but straight up junk, malware.
But is that accurate, the model i got FX506HC is 2021
Currently investigating how to update the bios, if that wont work ill try the myASUS software, thanks anyway.

Dude... why are so hooked up naming the device in marketing names that say nothing... it is like calling Porche 911, but what year and engine?

You have a FX507ZC, as you showed in the screenshot and that is the model you have to seek. You have a QR code on the bottom case, take the phone and scan it... it will link to the support download page.

Did you do my recommendations?

Im asking for a fellow colleague, the laptop is not mine. He is bad with pcs thats why.
The laptop model is: FX506HC

 

[Ferrum Master]

microsoft is a disgusting company with an os that acts as if it was malware.

You are using ASUS that is even more crap, even more a laptop, there is no other way, take it or leave it. Their support will answer you with the same manner and their RMA site will offer you to flash their OEM OS, there is nothing we can help you about it. That device relies on the ASUS ecosystem to function properly, that's the reality using such devices. Cutting something down will hinder some functionally of the device as bloody nobody will care to write code and make it standart.

Just install properly the device using w11 and use myASUS, download the drivers, you will be given that option, save them, pay attention to Intel iGPU only then you can experiment. It is a laptop not a generic PC don't expect everything will work with generic drivers.

 

[Liberte]

You are using ASUS that is even more crap, even more a laptop, there is no other way, take it or leave it. Their support will answer you with the same manner and their RMA site will offer you to flash their OEM OS, there is nothing we can help you about it. That device relies on the ASUS ecosystem to function properly, that's the reality using such devices. Cutting something down will hinder some functionally of the device as bloody nobody will care to write code and make it standart.

Just install properly the device using w11 and use myASUS, download the drivers, you will be given that option, save them, pay attention to Intel iGPU only then you can experiment. It is a laptop not a generic PC don't expect everything will work with generic drivers.

Alright i understand.
I'll admit that much my experience so far is limited to desktop computers, was not expecting laptops being so much different.
I'm not giving up yet, if i figure it out i'll share it here.
He bought this crappy laptop because it was only 500cash, i told him he should buy a system76 with disabled intel ME or tuxedo and run linux with peace of mind, fk windows.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Alright i understand.
I'll admit that much my experience so far is limited to desktop computers, was not expecting laptops being so much different.
I'm not giving up yet, if i figure it out i'll share it here.
He bought this crappy laptop because it was only 500cash, i told him he should buy a system76 with disabled intel ME or tuxedo and run linux with peace of mind, fk windows.

Things go round and round... there were times when laptops functioned only on custom drivers, then they became more generic, then again vice versa as more bling and sophisticated things are needed especially in power saving department and custom hardware. You are totally right using system76 that is fully linux compatible, a good choice.

Still it is weird to me using such an obscene thing like ASUS gaming laptop, as it ain't a laptop, it is big and far from mobile(especially with the charger brick), screams a geek or virgin4life... put a generic PC in a DAN case or something similar if you care for space and quit fooling around... the next thing we facepalm in unclewebb support, my lappy overheats while gaming, help me with the undervolt...

All the effort making a laptop safe for a customer and not you maybe useless as at the end of the day he will push the in the spammy Nigerian Prince email and and the end of the day still uses social networking and messengers. Goverment will have access to you no matter how you hide if you will be targeted as a suspect.

 

[Liberte]

I's stuck at 0%, doesn't do sh!t. What now? I made sure the software has full networkaccess, the firewall isn't blocking anything.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This is normal. There's no need for you to install anything else, your computer is working as expected.

The reason you don't have the Manage 3D Settings page on the NVCP is because your laptop has an Intel integrated GPU and your laptop's integrated panel is wired to it, i.e. - the discrete graphics processor is presently disabled and there are no settings that you can tinker with, simply because it's off. Considered it has an RTX 3050, I can tell outright your laptop doesn't support Advanced Optimus or MUX switch, so to get the 3D settings page, you must connect a display to the NVIDIA GPU directly, usually, this means the HDMI port. This will enable the Manage 3D settings and allow the Nvidia driver to take over, otherwise the 3050 will operate in headless mode - that is, it'll do the processing for games and heavier applications, but the laptop's screen will remain connected to the Intel graphics.

Windows will automatically choose the correct GPU for the application you are trying to run, but you can manually assign it on the Windows graphics settings (i'm on Windows 10, but it's the same on 11). Power saving mode means integrated graphics, high performance means dedicated GPU.

I have a Dell G15 5515 laptop, it has a Ryzen 5600H, meaning it's an AMD+NVIDIA dual graphics configuration. Internal laptop panel and USB-C video-out are managed by the integrated Radeon Vega GPU, while the HDMI port is wired directly to its RTX 3050. It seems your Intel laptop works very much in the same way.

If you want a laptop that can run the internal panel off the discrete GPU, you will need to do some research but the minimum requirement for MUX/Advanced Optimus is RTX 3060 - no laptops with the RTX 3050 or 3050 Ti support this, and it's a feature usually found on laptops that come with the RTX 3070 or higher.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I's stuck at 0%, doesn't do sh!t. What now? I made sure the software has full networkaccess, the firewall isn't blocking anything.

You side loaded it? I have no idea on what it depends. It could be anything. Just temporary install a clean OS, it will be much faster.

 

[Liberte]

This is normal. There's no need for you to install anything else, your computer is working as expected.

The reason you don't have the Manage 3D Settings page on the NVCP is because your laptop has an Intel integrated GPU and your laptop's integrated panel is wired to it, i.e. - the discrete graphics processor is presently disabled and there are no settings that you can tinker with, simply because it's off. Considered it has an RTX 3050, I can tell outright your laptop doesn't support Advanced Optimus or MUX switch, so to get the 3D settings page, you must connect a display to the NVIDIA GPU directly, usually, this means the HDMI port. This will enable the Manage 3D settings and allow the Nvidia driver to take over, otherwise the 3050 will operate in headless mode - that is, it'll do the processing for games and heavier applications, but the laptop's screen will remain connected to the Intel graphics.

Windows will automatically choose the correct GPU for the application you are trying to run, but you can manually assign it on the Windows graphics settings (i'm on Windows 10, but it's the same on 11). Power saving mode means integrated graphics, high performance means dedicated GPU.

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I have a Dell G15 5515 laptop, it has a Ryzen 5600H, meaning it's an AMD+NVIDIA dual graphics configuration. Internal laptop panel and USB-C video-out are managed by the integrated Radeon Vega GPU, while the HDMI port is wired directly to its RTX 3050. It seems your Intel laptop works very much in the same way.

If you want a laptop that can run the internal panel off the discrete GPU, you will need to do some research but the minimum requirement for MUX/Advanced Optimus is RTX 3060 - no laptops with the RTX 3050 or 3050 Ti support this, and it's a feature usually found on laptops that come with the RTX 3070 or higher.

I do see the Manage 3D Settings page, it's the display cathegory that's missing.

This issue is becomming frustrating. The laptop works, no crashes no glitched no bugs, all applications work flawless, except one.
The damn nvidia controlpanel has no displaysettings.
I refuse to reinstall the whole os because of one piece of software being retarded.

From your explanation of the situation i hear that the integrated cpu graphics will handle desktop useage while the 3050 will handle intense tasks like videogames.
If so, i should be able to set games to run with 144hz refreshrate. I'm not sure about that since i cannot change the refreshrate in the nvcontrolpanel and neither in the windows displaysettings. Guess i'll have to install a game and try out the ingame settings.
I have already tried connecting an external display to the HDMI port but the screen remained black and i was unable to get it working.
Thanks for helping, much appreciated. I see that dedicated laptop gpu's are only present within the high-end segment.
This is very confusing, i still fail to understand why a computer has a dedicated gpu (like a 3050) built into it but uses that gpu only for specific tasks and does so automatically without giving control to the user.
I'll follow your instructions and use the windows graphics setting to assign the 3050 to custom services like games.
Thanks again this was certainly very helpful.

You side loaded it? I have no idea on what it depends. It could be anything. Just temporary install a clean OS, it will be much faster.

I didn't sideload it.
Installed all dependencies first, then the program itself.
I tried running it straight away but kept getting errors so i had to install the dependencies first.
Turns out all of that was pointless since the software is stuck at 0% anway, even after being granted full network access...
B9ECED6F.ASUSPCAssistant_4.0.6.0_neutral_~_qmba6cd70vzyy.appxbundle
Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2_2.2.29512.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe.appx
Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2_2.2.28604.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe.appx
Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.33519.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe.appx
What i didn't install are the .BlockMap files, i don't know what they are but they where not mandatory to install the software anyway.
After all myasus is starting, it's just not loading.

 

[Ferrum Master]

What i didn't install are the .BlockMap files, i don't know what they are but they where not mandatory to install the software anyway.
After all myasus is starting, it's just not loading.

That's same thing as it does not start...

As plan B you could have created a USB bootable w11 USB to go meanwhile and use plain stock OS.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I do see the Manage 3D Settings page, it's the display cathegory that's missing.

This issue is becomming frustrating. The laptop works, no crashes no glitched no bugs, all applications work flawless, except one.
The damn nvidia controlpanel has no displaysettings.
I refuse to reinstall the whole os because of one piece of software being retarded.

It's like I said, you will not get any of those settings available until you use an HDMI cord and connect the laptop to an external display. The internal panel is managed by the Intel graphics. This means the Nvidia GPU doesn't see it or even know it's there, so as far as the NVCP is concerned, you don't have a display plugged in - the GPU is operating headless. If you want to change any scaling or display color settings while the laptop is outputting to its internal panel, use the Intel graphics control panel instead. You did install the Intel graphics driver, did you not? If you didn't, then do so. It is required.

Nvidia isn't at fault here, this is a low-end laptop with basic headless switchable graphics. Anything else, a MUX switch is a hard requirement, and as I mentioned earlier, these are only available on select 3060 laptops and up. The one I have (Dell G15) supports MUX with the 3060 version, but not on the one I have. So even that is specific, you need to do some research to figure out if the laptop you're buying is going to be meeting your personal demands.