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Ratings system needs to be improved

Would you support introduction of negative ratings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 25.3%
  • No

    Votes: 40 50.6%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 19 24.1%

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Currently I can rate posts with the following:

like - self explanatory
love - basically same as above but with more emphasis
haha - self explanatory
wow - positive surprise
sad - reaction to bad news, usually
angry - reaction to annoying info, usually

This is essentially 3 positive and 3 emotional responses.

It lacks negative responses. What if a poster posts garbage? His opinions are dumb? His information is completely incorrect?

You can always respond to them with as to why you think their post in incorrect / garbage in a civilized way. Seems counter-intuitive to skip the discussion parts with emotes.

Are there people who will troll / ignore you? Absolutely, that's just the nature of the internet. I'd vastly prefer a system that promotes discussion quality over emotes or likes. Emotes are just thoughtless and likes / votes just enable an eco-chamber.

Negative responses would easily fix such. For example:

disagree - if you simply disagree, perhaps without negative connotations
stupid - if you think the poster posts dumb trash/misinformation
shit - essentially for everything else, i.e. an opinion that perhaps is not stupid, but extremely edgy, cringe or otherwise repulsive, or a picture of one's amazing build that looks like thousands of other.

It would make the forum more toxic and salty. It allows people to low effort troll without having to think or type a word. You can already see that to an extent with the existing emotes. If people are going to voice their opinion they should have to make the bare minimum of thinking to do so.
 

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Can we not, maybe? This whole discussion of how much we need poo starts to whiff of coprophilia.
Who said anything about eating it? The discussion was about flinging it around in a civilized manner. :rockout:
 
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“I have a different viewpoint, experience, wish”. It’s not a negative, but it’s a different. What is the emoji for that? I have to say in my experience sites that have thousands of emojis have too many and 99% dont get used and still what i want to express isnt an obvious emoji.

i’d prefer the anger emoji to be replaced with clown or winceface

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Or added to the available emojis in edit.
 
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Neehhh kinda suffers from the same issues as the 'haha'. Could also be 'you're not making sense'.

Although that does also kinda ask for more detail :p
I was thinking it would prompt most posters to reread thier post, possibly editing for clarity or adding more detail, without adding posts asking for clarification that would possibly lead to getting off-topic.
 
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Some people here would like to say that emojis have no value. That's so far from the reality. It's a convenience that may save a valuable time, and it does.
Example: Sometimes I just want to express my appreciation for someone's time and effort invested in a post, so I'll just give like, or even love.
And don't tell me it is better to write a reply just to say something like "that's great!", or "I like that!", "loving the info you provided!", "That's funny!". There are people that often do that, feels like trolling to me.
This thread is already derailed, and judging by the votes, nothing will change regarding the topic. At least the OP gave us the opportunity to share our thoughts, and I'm always thankful for that.
 
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Some people here would like to say that emojis have no value. That's so far from the reality. It's a convenience that may save a valuable time, and it does.
Example: Sometimes I just want to express my appreciation for someone's time and effort invested in a post, so I'll just give like, or even love.
And don't tell me it is better to write a reply just to say something like "that's great!", or "I like that!", "loving the info you provided!", "That's funny!". There are people that often do that, feels like trolling to me.
This thread is already derailed, and judging by the votes, nothing will change regarding the topic. At least the OP gave us the opportunity to share our thoughts, and I'm always thankful for that.
I agree that likes are useful for expressing agreement, but I wouldn't like disagreement to be replaced by angry emojis. Differences are a chance to learn, not something to get angry about.

Just like at work - I don't want to know what a shit job I'm doing. I want to know how I can improve.
 
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What if a poster posts garbage? His opinions are dumb? His information is completely incorrect?
My mother always told me if you don't have anything nice to say...

Complete this sentence.
 
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I almost never click on the angry red face because it's poorly defined. Does it say "I agree and that makes me angry" or "I don't agree and you make me angry"? Same with sad or ha-ha. Actually I'd like to be able to choose a combination such as like+angry or (rarely) dislike+angry or love+haha+wow.

And don't tell me it is better to write a reply just to say something like "that's great!", or "I like that!", "loving the info you provided!", "That's funny!". There are people that often do that, feels like trolling to me.
Well said. That's why emoji for negative feelings aren't just a simple mirror image of those for positive feelings. The former almost always need some explanation; the latter are usually fine without.
 
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The laugh emoji is often used by people to stir resentment. It's the proverbial red rag (to a bull). When I see it used in heated debates, I find it exceptionally useless and counter productive.
Hi,
Sometimes deranged logic deserves a good laugh
I mean who else wouldn't think saying intel is making the most efficient chips when out of the box is quite the opposite hehe
Or MS telemetry and updates service is a good thing to have running all the f'en time I mean really this is funny stuff and the list is long :kookoo:
 
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My mother always told me if you don't have anything nice to say...

Complete this sentence.
My mother said that too, but my Dad just said...

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My mother always told me if you don't have anything nice to say...

Complete this sentence.

I seem to recall that you have what it takes to call someone out when needed.
 
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I thought the point of our forum was to stay as far away from the toxic social media environments that we all know and hate. Or maybe I'm just old -shrug-

It's fine the way it is.
 
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Why is there a section on my on username, where I can see my reactions received, or even the Stars on people's names?
Seems like a big ego stroke imo.

I would rather it both be gone.
 
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Angry covers it all. There is a problem with what's being said. You can choose not to react, although having a free will is a bit dubious. Now it takes up too much space to have a bunch of reactions below. But the reaction score can be broken into credibility and usefulness, purely numerical but what if the jury is deluded.
 
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The existing laugh react is useful enough to show mirth at a statement, without being too obnoxious.

I'm sure you feel that way considering that you are constantly spamming it...
 
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well, at least you got the angry one, we are all grownups, right? So, life goes on
 
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But that begs the question: What's there to be emotional about in the first place? Tech news? No way. Another forum member's attitude? That's what the report button is for. An opinion? Just grow up, please.

Besides, as it was mentioned before, any disagreement is handled much more elegantly by a post elaborating on the counter-argument than a laughing or angry face lazily clicked on. I could have clicked on an emoji instead of writing this post, but would that have brought the conversation forward? Would it have given you the chance to think about and react to my points? Would then I be able to think about your counter-arguments? Would we reach any sort of consensus in the end? Absolutely not.

Hi man!

Seen a lot of you for a year I was lurking around this forum. Said positively: definitely like you.

I also want to thank you for replying, and taking consideration, although I wouldn't expect any less.

I do have something to reply. In fact, I did all along.

Emotions cannot be dictated by rationales. They are there. Of course, you can easily stop yourself and think otherwise, but if that was what most people do, then Emojis wouldn't exist, nevertheless the social contract binding them within circumstances.

But of course I agree with you: what's there to be emotional ABOUT? And I agree with your downright solutions where emotions would pose you a problem. But do they?

Before you'd even think of doing that or doing nothing at all about it, you might feel frustration, or anger. Then rationalize it. And when you do, all the power to you. I've seen indeed you being quite regular in your replies even through the most heated discussions. But still you do feel them before you act. That's what Emojis basically elicit. And once we have some of them, we use them before we even think much in most settings. Hence why I think TPU has the good solution for its circumstances: nothing overly negative keeps things flowing, and identifies trolling more quickly since if someone really has ungrounded or downright stupid beef with any subject, he'll have no choice but to speak, thus identifying himself. And just as so, someone with correct knowledge and proofs at hand will take the bait to answer to the troll.

I agree with you on that. And I don't think it's easy to make this point here, so I'll work this down up.

Let's suppose TPU without any "rating" Emoji. In any negative way these could be going, it wouldn't change anyone's day: either your indifferent to the subject, or the troll response, or either you FEEL something. It isn't true that we'll put someone to question because we don't feel anything at all about it. If we don't, then we don't CARE. And if we don't CARE then we don't answer to the feeling because there was none. BTW, before you tell me I don't feel anything when I answer a question/step in argument to help someone/the community, wrong again. As I just said, if you didn't CARE, you wouldn't help someone. The feeling doesn't need to be negative - often times it's the desire to help or to make things/info right. If we really go into it, it's often strongly mixed with the pride to know better, and/or the love for the subject itself. But hey, let's not go there. Let's just say there is a swelling that makes us care to give an answer. In that sense, if TPU didn't have "rating" Emojis it would be a bit dry since then we couldn't easily "Like" anytime someone has already done that or expanded the subject further. We wouldn't have "Love" when we really connect with something that has been said, or that it seems just the thing that needed to be said in an argument, or that it brings in something unexpected and right to a subject. We couldn't even "Laugh" the funniest joke that made our day. All these things my friend are feelings, and you'll click those "rating" Emojis without even thinking twice.... unless you need to do. And then yes, decide you'd rather not click anything but answer. It may still be positive, but often times, somethings goes against your grain there. And for many people, if you leave negative Emojis to react, they'll use them. But as we don't, we need to answer. Same when YOU don't want to let emotions dictate your response, especially negative but even at times positive - you'll indeed avoid them reactions shortcuts and go straight at "the beef".

And well if you deny that, I cannot argument anything else. I'll concede to the fact I won't win any heart against any good and contributive member of a tech Forum I just joined on stuff like feeling and psychology.

But after I do post this answer, I'll go and "react" to your post.
 

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I said no because it's stupid. We're here to learn and debate about computer technology. We all have opinions. 'nuff said'
 
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There's a bunch with same meaning: :wtf::shadedshu::banghead::kookoo::slap: - just really low quality - mIRC running on Windows '98 Edition.
I love the conviviality of the old Emojis. They’re making a joke. They’re moving into it also. It was almost impossible to be mad until accustomed because you’d look first at the motion and it was intendedly « friendly poking » style and some of them really funny that anytime they’d fit you’d just laugh wholeheartedly.

Static, straight Emojis to me were not a win over that.
 
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I said no because it's stupid. We're here to learn and debate about computer technology. We all have opinions. 'nuff said'
True... but anytime you laugh, or learn, or just go "that's downright right" and there's an Emoji there to rate it so, isn't it somewhat ungrateful to NOT do so especially if you won't respond because you don't care so much but still felt for that particular post?

As I said it's social contract. But like any contract, the "legal" terms imply either participating WITHIN or AGAINST the contract. There's nothing to add if nothing of that comes under scrutiny because you just can't care enough. You're not breaking the social contract - still within it.

Let's not care but just discuss things we know/love/care about like AI reproducing humanity.
 
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I use the laughing emoji for funny posts, but I know, many people use it to show massive disagreement. It's confusing.
I often use the "Laugh" emoji if someone said something dumb or did something really stupid. :laugh: Because there is no other and better fitting emoji (like facepalm) available. I agree that a poop emoticon for the user posts might be over the edge, but the top down forced snowflake mentality is driving our society in a bad direction. Spreading nonsense without headwind always ended badly in the past.
There are tons of emoji's out there, but the 5 I miss the most are:
[TPU] Emoji's.PNG


Like it was said, the "like" button can show agreement without convoluting the forum with one-word responses.
This. :cool: It gives folks the option to give feedback without the requirement to just post "something". Because often less is more.
 
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TPU needs
1.png
or
erm.png
for some posts, imo.
I can't find the proper emoji but you get it, right?
 
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