Technical Issues - TPU Main Site & Forum (2023)

Solaris17 · Oct 10, 2023

Mussels said:
I read something about cloudflare being used to DDoS cloudflare, since it bypassed their own protection from within themselves as 'trusted'

Cloudflare Protection Bypass Vulnerability on Threat Actors' Radar (socradar.io)

That is a thing, but recently (though I'm not @W1zzard there has been an identified http2 0day) that allows tremendous attack amplitude.

HTTP/2 Zero-Day vulnerability results in record-breaking DDoS attacks

The “HTTP/2 Rapid Reset” attack exploits a weakness in the HTTP/2 protocol to generate enormous, hyper-volumetric DDoS attacks. Cloudflare has mitigated a barrage of these attacks in recent months, including an attack three times larger than any previous attack we’ve observed

blog.cloudflare.com

Assimilator · Oct 10, 2023

Solaris17 said:
That is a thing, but recently (though I'm not @W1zzard there has been an identified http2 0day) that allows tremendous attack amplitude.

HTTP/2 Zero-Day vulnerability results in record-breaking DDoS attacks

The “HTTP/2 Rapid Reset” attack exploits a weakness in the HTTP/2 protocol to generate enormous, hyper-volumetric DDoS attacks. Cloudflare has mitigated a barrage of these attacks in recent months, including an attack three times larger than any previous attack we’ve observed

blog.cloudflare.com

HTTP/2 is still barely used on the web, though.

Solaris17 · Oct 10, 2023

W1zzard said:
Just some random DDOS again

http://imgur.com/Wvtqad6

Assimilator said:
HTTP/2 is still barely used on the web, though.

HTTP/2 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

lmk if I need to go slower.

Assimilator · Oct 10, 2023

Solaris17 said:
HTTP/2 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

lmk if I need to go slower.

Ah, didn't realise you were referring to that post. I stand corrected.

P4-630 · Oct 10, 2023

Google mentioned a record:

Google Cloud mitigated largest DDoS attack, peaking above 398 million rps | Google Cloud Blog

Google Cloud stopped the largest known DDoS attack to date, which exploited HTTP/2 stream multiplexing using the new “Rapid Reset” technique.

cloud.google.com

W1zzard · Oct 11, 2023

Assimilator said:
HTTP/2 is still barely used on the web, though.

HTTP2 is used EVERYWHERE

HTTP/2 protocol | Can I use... Support tables for HTML5, CSS3, etc

caniuse.com

Solaris17 said:
HTTP/2 Zero-Day vulnerability results in record-breaking DDoS attacks

The “HTTP/2 Rapid Reset” attack exploits a weakness in the HTTP/2 protocol to generate enormous, hyper-volumetric DDoS attacks. Cloudflare has mitigated a barrage of these attacks in recent months, including an attack three times larger than any previous attack we’ve observed

blog.cloudflare.com

That's not what hit us. Just some classic HTTP floods through HTTP2, so they don't have to reconnect all the time, saving on resources on their side. Turning off HTTP2 permanently hurts our users too much though, not worth it

Space Lynx · Oct 14, 2023

@W1zzard

Dear Wizzard and Hobgoblins,

Please never make a big change to the website like Hilbert did to Guru3D a few weeks ago... Guru3D just looks and feels horrible to me now, I much prefer the older style it had. Now this might just be a case of being on the autism spectrum, where I struggle with change... but I don't think it is. Take for example the downloads section, there used to be a top download section where it was easy for me to find MSI Afterburner on Guru3D, now that is gone... not to mention the UI elements just really don't work for me personally.

TPU is already perfect. Please don't get any fancy ideas like Guru3D did... you did a great job with TPU. Already lost one community when Overclock.net turned to an absolute nightmare of a website a few years ago with its UI element changes, Guru3D isn't as bad as that, but it just feels too strange now. Head-Fi also made some big changes to its website a few years ago, made it really hard to navigate to the forums in a clear and concise way, so I left that community too. TPU is perfect, so if you ever get any fancy ideas on changing UI elements or forum structure, please get in a hot tub, get a nice cold drink, and realize you are already better off than Gandalf and that you don't need to make any changes at all, thank you and have a good day. -Dave from Customer Service

:toast:

W1zzard · Oct 14, 2023

Space Lynx said:
Please never make a big change to the website

I keep thinking about ideas how to improve, but can't come up with much. Rest assured if there's something that makes the site better, I'll consider it.

What I have on the to-do list is more retina images, especially for news/review thumbs and charts, but that requires a lot of backend work.
No plans to move away from static png charts.
Lots of backend changes happening slowly, basically moving from PHP to .NET, free-time project of mine
Also I want to put comments at the end of each reviews page to make them more visible, just no idea yet how to design it so that it looks good, I guess something similar to what Anandtech does

Space Lynx · Oct 14, 2023

W1zzard said:
Also I want to put comments at the end of each reviews page to make them more visible, just no idea yet how to design it so that it looks good, I guess something similar to what Anandtech does

other stuff sounds ok, this ^ sounds like bad idea, you already do this perfectly and its very aesthetically pleasing (two areas to click on for discussions). please get in the hot tub. :roll:

Assimilator · Oct 14, 2023

W1zzard said:
moving from PHP to .NET

Including the forums?

W1zzard · Oct 14, 2023

Assimilator said:
Including the forums?

No, the forums will stay on XenForo, it's simply the best forum software, by far

Solaris17 · Oct 14, 2023

W1zzard said:
No, the forums will stay on XenForo, it's simply the best forum software, by far

It really is. I love this. Though I'm not sure if it was around at the time, a MASSIVE thank you for not going for something like discourse. I CANNOT STAND that layout. It seems to have gotten popular in the last few years and those communities' are contextual messes to navigate.

Xenforo, imo is the biggest improvement to the site since the facelift reworking the top way way back when.

Mussels · Oct 15, 2023

Solaris17 said:
It really is. I love this. Though I'm not sure if it was around at the time, a MASSIVE thank you for not going for something like discourse. I CANNOT STAND that layout. It seems to have gotten popular in the last few years and those communities' are contextual messes to navigate.

Xenforo, imo is the biggest improvement to the site since the facelift reworking the top way way back when.

Nothing worse than tech forums you can't understand chronological order easily.

lexluthermiester · Oct 16, 2023

W1zzard said:
I keep thinking about ideas how to improve, but can't come up with much.

Don't worry about it. The TPU front page is excellent and with few exceptions the selection of Xenforo forum software is equally so.

Solaris17 said:
a MASSIVE thank you for not going for something like discourse. I CANNOT STAND that layout. It seems to have gotten popular in the last few years and those communities' are contextual messes to navigate.

100% agree there. Discourse is a sad & pathetic amateur-hour mess. Boarders on completely useless.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 17, 2023

Is the alert system doing ok?

::EDIT::

Ive narrowed it down to Chrome being funny. Everything works fine on android

lexluthermiester · Oct 17, 2023

FreedomEclipse said:
Ive narrowed it down to Chrome being funny.

Firefox ESR versions. I never have problems.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 18, 2023

well. Updated my chrome just now, cleared my cookies and my alerts are still looking blank from my previous post.

W1zzard · Oct 18, 2023

Works for me, try turning off adblock and other addons you might have

FreedomEclipse · Oct 18, 2023

got no adblock for TPU and ive purged the filters anyway just incase it was messing with the site while off. Site still works fine in Incognito mode and i have the same extensions enabled for that so im going to chalk it down to chrome having a moment and it will grow out of it eventually.

lemonadesoda · Oct 25, 2023

502 Bad Gateway

Never seen that before.

plat · Oct 25, 2023

I can confirm that in Firefox--but now it works fine and I'm posting from there this minute. Brave loaded the site immediately.

windwhirl · Oct 25, 2023

plat said:
I can confirm that in Firefox--but now it works fine and I'm posting from there this minute. Brave loaded the site immediately.

Gateway errors are usually site issues, not browser issues tho

lexluthermiester · Oct 26, 2023

plat said:
I can confirm that in Firefox--but now it works fine and I'm posting from there this minute. Brave loaded the site immediately.

Gateway errors are not browser related.

W1zzard · Oct 26, 2023

windwhirl said:
Gateway errors are usually site issues, not browser issues tho

Always. I thought my little infographic and text made that clear enough? Any ideas how to improve?

the54thvoid · Oct 26, 2023

W1zzard said:
Always. I thought my little infographic and text made that clear enough? Any ideas how to improve?

It's perfectly clear. I'm a network agnostic - it's all magic to me, so when you changed your wee pop-up a while ago, it made me quite happy to see there was no fault at my end. It's viewer error that they're not picking it up. No matter how many posters and warning signs you make, people still will ignore them.

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