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[delshay]

R9 NANO EFFICENCY UNDERCLOCKED/UNDERVOLT

Below is the latest "software" mod for the R9 Nano, but it also has new hardware modifications

Screenshot below is the "New Default" on one of the BIOS. So I no longer need Wattman. I now have the option to install display drivers only.
Take note of memory speed "600MHz" which is the new "Default Speed". With the hardware mod in place, memory can clock 660MHz with zero artifacts. ..Top speed is classed as unknown at this time, but it can go faster than 660MHz.

EDIT: Voltage is missing from the screenshot. Max core voltage at state 7 is 0.950v.

 

[Valantar]

R9 NANO EFFICENCY UNDERCLOCKED/UNDERVOLT

Below is the latest "software" mod for the R9 Nano, but it also has new hardware modifications

Screenshot below is the "New Default" on one of the BIOS. So I no longer need Wattman. I now have the option to install display drivers only.
Take note of memory speed "600MHz" which is the new "Default Speed". With the hardware mod in place, memory can clock 660MHz with zero artifacts. ..Top speed is classed as unknown at this time, but it can go faster than 660MHz.

EDIT: Voltage is missing from the screenshot. Max voltage at state 7 is 0.950v.

What is the power draw at those clock/voltage levels?

 

[delshay]

What is the power draw at those clock/voltage levels?

I have to get back to you on that one with more voltage settings.

That set-up is for "Underclock" Ultra Extreme Efficiency. Max core voltage is 0.950 (State 7). .(already posted this)
I clawed back a lot of performance from the memory high clocks, ie reduced latency.
I can confirm this card is extremely difficult to produce artifacts due-to having around one hundred 0603 tantalum capacitors (stacked on top of ceramics) sitting behind the core, This is one reason why it can clock so high.

It's strange that I went for Tantalum other than Ceramics. It's expected to clock somewhere near or pass 700MHz on the Memory, but I only know 660MHz is working perfectly without issues. It's going to set a world record (on air) if it has not already done so for HBM with no additional cooling. ..Standard Nano cooling fan only with no adjustment to the fan profile, all running standard default.

Memory bandwidth is just plain crazy, see GPUZ..

I need to set-up 1000MHz core clock on the second BIOS for extreme efficiency.

EDIT: It's really nice that I no longer need to go into wattman when I upgrade software driver.

 

[bobbybluz]

I have three XFX R9 Fury X's and all are currently in use. Do I qualify for this group? BTW I wouldn't mind another one if the price is right.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

As predicted R9 Nano Clocks 699MHz on the HBM. The only thing that's stopping it from going any faster is the software which is not letting me insert 700MHz+. I've including the game "Close To The Sun" screenshot. ..This is the only game that shows artifacts if hardware is overclocked/underclocked too far, but is not applicable to this card. Extra ordinary, very difficult to get any artifacts out of it.

EDIT: Voltage State 0,1 & 2 are experimental, as I want to insure I can boot into windows.
EDIT2: The game "Close To The Sun" will show artifacts around the lights, on the right hand side if I go too far on the hardware. This is before I added around 100 Tantalum Capacitors to the card.

Unfortunately I believe that Memory OC is turned OFF automatically in drivers so even IF you can change your memory speed in certain OC programs the actual speed will always be 500Mhz....

I have three XFX R9 Fury X's and all are currently in use. Do I qualify for this group? BTW I wouldn't mind another one if the price is right.

I have the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro and I really like this card it's built like a tank....I customized a bios so now it's working on 1070Mhz....

 

[Valantar]

I have three XFX R9 Fury X's and all are currently in use. Do I qualify for this group? BTW I wouldn't mind another one if the price is right.

You could probably buy mine if/when I ever get my 6800 XT, though it's got an EK water block on it (don't have the stock cooler any more) and I live in Sweden, so shipping might be expensive.

 

[delshay]

Unfortunately I believe that Memory OC is turned OFF automatically in drivers so even IF you can change your memory speed in certain OC programs the actual speed will always be 500Mhz....


I have the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro and I really like this card it's built like a tank....I customized a bios so now it's working on 1070Mhz....

Are you sure what you are saying? HBM Overclock is done in the "firmware". ..Everything I'm doing is in firmware, no external software involved other than Radeon standard software which you need to display something on-screen.

I can check if it is active with a scopemeter or underclock it in firmware & check for massive drop-off in performance.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Are you sure what you are saying? HBM Overclock is done in the "firmware". ..Everything I'm doing is in firmware, no external software involved other than Radeon standard software which you need to display something on-screen.

I can check if it is active with a scopemeter or underclock it in firmware & check for massive drop-off in performance.

Well from my research 16.2.2 should be the latest driver that works with HBM OC everything after that just ain't working....I also customized my bios and unlocked memory OC but when I OC my memory even if the GPU-Z/3D Mark and rest of the Benchmarks showing higher frequency the benchmarking results are always more or less identical.....And yeah this is not just me saying that you can look around the web and see that this is what most people claim...Now I don't know maybe you did something or find some new software where is possible to do HBM OC and If you did I am really eager to see&try that........here look bellow I just OC my HBM memory on identical speed as yours and I did 1 benchmark run with Superposition and guess what the result are the same on 700Mhz HBM and on 500Mhz HBM.......

 

[delshay]

Well from my research 16.2.2 should be the latest driver that works with HBM OC everything after that just ain't working....I also customized my bios and unlocked memory OC but when I OC my memory even if the GPU-Z showing higher frequency the benchmarking results are always more or less identical.....And yeah this is not just me saying that you can look around the web and see that this is what most people claim...Now I don't know maybe you did something or find some new software where is possible to do HBM OC and If you did I am really eager to see&try that........here look bellow I just OC my HBM memory on identical speed as yours.......

How about this, do you think it is fake ASUS Radeon R9 Fury Overclocked to 1.0 GHz HBM and 1400 MHz GPU Clock - Fully Unlocked To Fury X and Features 1 TB/s Bandwidth on LN2 (wccftech.com).

I will checkout what you are saying by probing my card, but there are also many threads that says it is working. Some users claiming they can't even get to 560 or 600MHz which make me think it is working.

Maybe Nano cards are completely locked out, so maybe I made a mistake. Give me time to probe it to confirm what's going on, but I can swear I did see increase in benchmarks.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

How about this, do you think it is fake ASUS Radeon R9 Fury Overclocked to 1.0 GHz HBM and 1400 MHz GPU Clock - Fully Unlocked To Fury X and Features 1 TB/s Bandwidth on LN2 (wccftech.com).

I will checkout what you are saying by probing my card, but there are also many threads that says it is working. Some users claiming they can't even get to 560 or 600MHz which make me think it is working.

Maybe Nano cards are completely locked out, so maybe I made a mistake. Give me time to probe it to confirm what's going on.

No I don't think its fake.....this was EXTREME OC he used Nitrogen + some wiring tweaks and beside that this was back from 2015 where HBM was still possible to OC it was not turned off yet via drivers.....I guess you can still install old drivers and then applied HBM OC and then compare all the data.....

 

[bobbybluz]

You could probably buy mine if/when I ever get my 6800 XT, though it's got an EK water block on it (don't have the stock cooler any more) and I live in Sweden, so shipping might be expensive.

The most I paid for any of them was $175 like new in the box off the local Craigslist. The other two were $150 off different buyers on CL, one was also close to like new and the other needed a cleaning but was very good. They also came in the original boxes. I got all of them a couple of years ago when they were sanely priced.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

The most I paid for any of them was $175 like new in the box off the local Craigslist. The other two were $150 off different buyers on CL, one was also close to like new and the other needed a cleaning but was very good. They also came in the original boxes. I got all of them a couple of years ago when they were sanely priced.

I was lucky I get this R9 Fury Sapphire Nitro just a week or two before this latest mining craze for just 75€........

 

[bobbybluz]

I was lucky I get this R9 Fury Sapphire Nitro just a week or two before this latest mining craze for just 75€........

Excellent deal. My remaining Sabertooth X79/E5 1680 V2 rig has the $175 Fury X in it. The former twin to it just got an i9 9900K/Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero Wi-Fi transplanted into it.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Excellent deal. My remaining Sabertooth X79/E5 1680 V2 rig has the $175 Fury X in it. The former twin to it just got an i9 9900K/Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero Wi-Fi transplanted into it.

Well yeah it was a good deal but when I remember that was thinking to buy GTX 1080TI for 250€......and I was like naaah I don't need it + price will go down for sure

 

[bobbybluz]

Well yeah it was a good deal but when I remember that was thinking to buy GTX 1080TI for 250€......and I was like naaah I don't need it + price will go down for sure

Been there; I passed on three Vega 64's for under $250 each on Craigslist last year. My last GPU score was two MSI 390 Nitro 8GB's for $100 last Fall.

 

[delshay]

Well from my research 16.2.2 should be the latest driver that works with HBM OC everything after that just ain't working....I also customized my bios and unlocked memory OC but when I OC my memory even if the GPU-Z/3D Mark and rest of the Benchmarks showing higher frequency the benchmarking results are always more or less identical.....And yeah this is not just me saying that you can look around the web and see that this is what most people claim...Now I don't know maybe you did something or find some new software where is possible to do HBM OC and If you did I am really eager to see&try that........here look bellow I just OC my HBM memory on identical speed as yours and I did 1 benchmark run with Superposition and guess what the result are the same on 700Mhz HBM and on 500Mhz HBM.......

It looks like what you are saying is 100% correct. ...Crimson 16.2.1 is showing lower benchmark score than I had before, but returning it back to my original driver showed the same result. Overall now my benchmark score is down, when before it was consistently hitting above 5000 points, now I can't even pass that number using Resident Evil 6 Benchmark tool "V Sync Enable". Something is not right now, looks like I have to do clean install.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

It looks like what you are saying is 100% correct. ...Crimson 16.2.1 is showing lower benchmark score than I had before, but returning it back to my original driver showed the same result. Overall now my benchmark score is down, when before it was consistently hitting above 5000 points, now I can't even pass that number using Resident Evil 6 Benchmark tool "V Sync Enable". Something is not right now, looks like I have to do clean install.

Well man honestly In this case I am srry that I am correct as I also wish we could OC somehow HBM on ours beloved Fury's...anyway If you find a way or If OC still works with those old drivers I am eager to see the results and difference in Benchmarking scores.....GL

 

[delshay]

Well man honestly In this case I am srry that I am correct as I also wish we could OC somehow HBM on ours beloved Fury's...anyway If you find a way or If OC still works with those old drivers I am eager to see the results and difference in Benchmarking scores.....GL

I'v not given up, I'm looking deeper into this. There seems to be a windows register hack, but I have other ideas too, which begs the question, what is the basic windows driver doing.

According to this link, it stops @17.8.2. .. Solved: HBM overclock on R9 Nano in AMD Crimson ReLive 17.... - AMD Community

 

[Linaria]

R9 NANO EFFICENCY UNDERCLOCKED/UNDERVOLT

Below is the latest "software" mod for the R9 Nano, but it also has new hardware modifications

Screenshot below is the "New Default" on one of the BIOS. So I no longer need Wattman. I now have the option to install display drivers only.
Take note of memory speed "600MHz" which is the new "Default Speed". With the hardware mod in place, memory can clock 660MHz with zero artifacts. ..Top speed is classed as unknown at this time, but it can go faster than 660MHz.

EDIT: Voltage is missing from the screenshot. Max core voltage at state 7 is 0.950v.

Dude I just got an R9 Nano (well Radeon Instinct MI8) recently and ever since i've been seeing your posts here and there, i just think to myself "that's exactly what i was about to do"

 

[delshay]

This will be my last hardware modding on Techpowerup

Below top right is a replacement R9 Nano. After a number of errors which damage my other card. I wiil seek to correct my mistake but continue with my original very aggressive cooling solution internally inside the card. It involves soldering & will lock part of the card down, so it will be almost impossible to remove the VRM cooling plate.. You will not see anything from the outside, it's all internal. .

The Vapor Chamber is lapped, but in a different way using just a single finger. It needs re-lapping after many mount trying to discover what went wrong with the last card. So it needs light lapping again to get rid of minor scratches.

In another photo you can see I've marked two red boxes on the radiator. This is where the thermal pads go. They are placed on the stitched part of the radiator which then comes into contact with the internal copper sheet which is glued to the shroud. Unlike the Vega Nano mod where you can see the copper sheet, this card attempt to hide the copper internal sheet. Zoom in on the bottom spare shroud & you can see tiny bit of copper sticking out.

The thermal pads serve three purpose here, so here's a quick outline what it does.

1. It transfers heat to the shroud, effectively turning the shroud into a extended heatsink

2. It redirects airflow internally inside the card preventing air to flow between the radiator & the shroud. This should force more air though the radiator which is somewhat wasted when flowing though the tiny gap between radiator & shroud.

3. It increases mounting pressure on the die. When you take into account the normal mounting bracket that goes onto the back of the card, mounting pressure has gone up significantly.

I will start the transfer of this mod in two days time. It will fix & improve some errors I made on the Vega Nano mod. ...I will not be doing any resistor/capacitors mod on this card. I'm just going to focus on thermal performance. It will be fitted with Honeywell PTM 7950 but will be applied differently to what's recommend.

 

[delshay]

Finally I got to put together this modded R9 Nano together. It's not perfect as I rushed a few mods, so let's see what mod this card has over the Vega Nano.

All testing is set-up for Furmark 32 bit & one game Vaporum for stability.

The first mod which I always dream about is here. Internally the VRM coldplate is soldered to the front of the card interface. It's not a game changer, but is a first such video card has this feature. It can now use the PC chassis as a heatsink when you screw it down. So it looks like it's going to need thermal paste or thermal pads externally between PC chassis & card to take advantage of this. This part of the card you can no longer touch, as it now runs extremely hot. ...Vega Nano mod does not have this feature, so it's exclusive to this card only.

This card has another exclusive mod also not present on Vega Nano mod. it uses carbon fiber to raise the mounting pressure on the re-attentions bracket. Between these two cards, they hold the world record for PSI. The Vega does this another way, but this card does it the professional way. Carbon fiber looks a little fake to me, but I do think it there, but mixed in with plastic.

The shroud mod is is working here too, but this is expected as it's on the Vega Nano. Card also has PTM 7950 which is a first for R9 Nano.

Before & after testing each run, the card fan is stopped with my hand until the card hits 85C, then it is released. This is to ensure perfect stability under any condition. What I want to see at 85C is throttling no crashes. There's still a lot of testing to do including zero RPM fan speed when idle, currently shows 44C.


PICTURE 1: Zoom in to see the internal copper sheet & thermal pad though the grill part of the face plate. In the same picture I'v place the re-attention bracket in front of the card. Add height to increase mounting pressure the way manufactures intended (Professional way). I removed those four pads glued four carbon fibre sheet here about 0.2 -0.3mm then glue the pads back on top.

PICTURE 2: Back of the card where you can see copper sheet & thermal pad

PICTURE 3: Top of card

 

[delshay]

This more or less brings my hardware modding on TechPowerup to an end.

Below is the latest setting for my card. There are some new things here, so let's start with the settings.

1. First photo you can see setting for 1000MHz Settings (no overclocking). What's new here is 800mv. All R9 nano ship with 900mv at "P State 0" What you see is what programmed into the BIOS, that's the new default, so there's no need to adjust anything.

2 Second photo shows desktop/Internet browsing settings. :.Note the new lower frequency P. State 0 "200MHz" There are only two P. STATE active here, all the others are disabled/turned off.
Card also uses ZERO RPM Fan speed in this mode.

3 Third Photo GPUZ shows current state of card as of posting. ..Zero fan & 800mv can be seen here


**Miscellaneous changes in the BIOS (NEW DEFAULT)**

1. Target Temperature changes from 75C to new 70C

2. Throttle Temperature changes from 85C to new 80C

3. Amps output changes from 200A to new 300A

 

[delshay]

I'v done it again. This go's to show whatever I'm doing here is 100% correct, ie the lapping of the Vapor.Chamber & mounting pressure I was right. This card is setup for 4K gaming at standard core clock speed, It's setting "Legendary Benchmark" scores in FireStrike Ultra,.but it's only running 1000MHz.

For now fest your eyes on Superposition Score. When card is setup 100 % correctly it should be hitting 3250+ with 1000MHz core & +50 power increase. The benchmark below is consistent always over 3200 points.