Thursday, June 8th 2006

MSI reveals 7600GT & 7900GT with HDCP support

The 7950GX2 might have HDCP support already, but MSI is the first manufacturer for NVIDIA who has decided to include HDCP support on mainstream and fairly high end boards, which usually do not have such a feature. The 7600GT and the 7900GT are now offered with HDCP.
Source: DailyTech
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24 Comments on MSI reveals 7600GT & 7900GT with HDCP support

#2
warup89
da f*ck is HDCP support.....whatever it is i bet my x1800xl has some thing better than that.
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#3
overclocker
and same with my HIS x1600xt turbo to lmao:D
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#4
sinner33
Humor the ignorant please, but what does HDCP do anyways? Would someone like me, the average gamer, benefit from HDCP?
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#5
Azn Tr14dZ
No card out right now has HDCP, except those two and the 7950GX2. Not even the X1800XL or X1600 have it.
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#6
warup89
ooh kk, is it really nescesary tough?
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#7
MTL
So, WHAT IS IT?
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#8
sinner33
MTLSo, WHAT IS IT?
That's what I'd like to know. What are the benefits of HDCP for regular gamers?
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#10
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
So... I only need it if I play on an HDTV?
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#11
KennyT772
its for playing high def videos such as hd-dvd and bluray. without the secure encrypted connection that is hdcp high def movies will not play
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#12
Azn Tr14dZ
The movies will play, but not at the full resolution of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
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#13
Unregistered
There is a five year amnesty for which this is not true though, so I don't see much reason to care about HDCP unless you have a graphics card for 5 years... lol
#14
BigErn314
It's more DRM style BS to limit your ability to use the media you pay for.
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#15
sinner33
BigErn314It's more DRM style BS to limit your ability to use the media you pay for.
I agree with you. :toast: There's nothing spectacular about the new videos when you watch it compared to what we have now. Kind of reminds me of codecs.
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#16
overcast
sinner33I agree with you. :toast: There's nothing spectacular about the new videos when you watch it compared to what we have now. Kind of reminds me of codecs.
What are you joking? Are you telling me you can't see a difference between SDDVD and HDDVD or Bluray?
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Azn Tr14dZ
There is a big difference between High-Definition content and non-HD! Most people that say there isn't a big difference usually don't have a HDTV to compare. I've compared a standard TV at 480i, Progressive Scan (ED) at 480p, HD 720p, HD 1080i, and HD 1080p, and let me tell you that the quality of the movies/shows really differ from one to the other. Don't be saying that there's no difference if you haven't compared yourself.
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#18
rh535
Azn Tr14dZThere is a big difference between High-Definition content and non-HD! Most people that say there isn't a big difference usually don't have a HDTV to compare. I've compared a standard TV at 480i, Progressive Scan (ED) at 480p, HD 720p, HD 1080i, and HD 1080p, and let me tell you that the quality of the movies/shows really differ from one to the other. Don't be saying that there's no difference if you haven't compared yourself.
How did you watch 1080P movies. There is no player that can view at that resolution out yet.
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#19
dze
from what i understand its part of a drm scheme. i read somewhere that it can be cracked but it makes it hard to copy hd content....it goes alongside chips in cpus, chips in TVs' and pc monitors, chips in other hardware, dx10 and windows vista and if ur of the same opinion as me about that sort of thing, its generally not a desirable thing :) however it will be rammed down our throats in probably a year or so when they get to the point where they tie everything together and make it necessary to view content. Actuaslly the wave of the future will see the end of disks altogether most likely and everything will be digital content viewed through chipped and rechipped bs....so, hdcp is a glimps of things to come...might as well get used to the idea....
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Azn Tr14dZ
rh535How did you watch 1080P movies. There is no player that can view at that resolution out yet.
Yeah, there is. At a store here, there is a HD-DVD player by Toshiba, and we got it along with some movies too. There's a huge difference. When you watch movies at 1080i, it stutters because of the 30Hz refresh rate, when you watch 1080p, no slowdown at all.
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#21
rh535
I thought that HD-DVD could only do 1080i.
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#22
AMDCam
I say screw HDCP, and actually kinda screw progressive scan too speaking of HDTV. What I hate is the fact that you see NO difference in quality or anything else noticable, but because of the few seconds you do (you know, tearing or slowdown) there's a totally different technology to "eliminate" that rare occurence. And HDCP, exactly like DRM and all protected music, especially from music stores. 50% of people with wireless networks don't have them secured, and nobody cares too much about that although it's free internet for everyone else. But now companies are worried about an MP3 being copied onto too many CD's, or someone breaking into your house, splicing the DVI/VGA/component cable to your TV AS you're watching something and stealing a small amount of your movie?

That's the exact reason I still download mp3's from limewire/kazaa and whatever else. I'm sorry but if you're gonna punish the paying customer by putting limits to how many copies he can make, or how long he can listen to the song for, or how many times he can play it, I'd prefer to steal a copy with no limits.
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#24
dte96jbn
High resolution does matter if you have a big screen.
On on a 32" screen it might not be very noticably, but on my 83" screen (hdtv projector) it is very noticable. In scenes with high detail, like nature scenes, there is an extreme difference. People get bigger TVs all the time.

HDCP may or may not be needed i the near future, depending on the movie companies.
Hollywood has reportedly secretly agreed not to enforce usage of HDCP for 10 years, but may not stick to that agreement.
source: arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060521-6880.html

Blu-ray and HDDVD will probably be too expensive for most consumers for at least a year or two, but to be on the safe side I'll definately get a HDCP-capable graphics card.
I'm not much of a gamer and I want my next computer to last a very long time before I upgrade again. When I do upgrade I may want my old computer to be a home theater pc, and then I'll need HDCP.

The annoying thing about MSI is that they have a 7900GT with HDCP and another 7900GT fanless card. To me it's obvious that if someone want's HDCP they want to play movies and then they probably want a quiet computer. They should put HDCP on the fanless card instead.
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