Tuesday, October 7th 2014
AMD Cuts Prices of R9 290 Series and R9 280 Series Even Further
AMD cut prices of its Radeon R9 290 series and R9 280 series graphics cards further down from last month's price-cuts. The cuts see the company's flagship single-GPU product, the Radeon R9 290X, drop from $449, down to $399, an $150 overall drop, from its launch price of $549. The Radeon R9 290, on the other hand, has its price cut to $299, from its launch price of $399. The drop in price of the R9 290 is squeezing AMD's sub-$300 lineup like never before. The R9 280X is down to $270, just $30 less than the R9 290. The R9 285, which launched barely two months ago, has its price squeezed to $229, just $10 more than NVIDIA's GTX 760. If you're in the market for a graphics card with about $250 in hand, you're now open to a ton of options, including ramen for a week, in exchange for the $329 GeForce GTX 970.
Source:
Tweaktown
140 Comments on AMD Cuts Prices of R9 290 Series and R9 280 Series Even Further
The GTX 970 is the real deal which shakes the market, before it it had been an annoying stagnation.
Why this relentless criticism to AMD? Why not?
www.techpowerup.com/65970/ati-amd-and-nvidia-fix-prices-in-the-us-class-action-slapped-against-them.html
I'm looking for the best bang for the buck (what I can afford) that is available when I'm ready to buy new GPUs.
The last time that was a EVGA GTX-760 4GB ACX card.
The time before that, it was a pair of R9-280X OC cards that are being used in crossfire.
My Radeon products (the 280X cards and an old XFX-6870 Black) are running fine for me. The gaming is pretty sweet too.
Likewise, the GTX 760 is a good gamer.
I just sold a pair of GTX-680 cards to make way for a pair of GTX-970s as soon as a matched pair of them is available to buy.
To be honest, if either company wants total loyalty, they're gonna have to buy a Dog. I'm in it for myself.
They initially released them at a halfway decent price, but once they were determined to mine so well, the incredible demand for them shot their prices into the stratosphere.
AMD, nor their partners were complaining about this.
The fact that they kept the initial release of their product to themselves was probably based on financial considerations. They made a lot of money.
If you think that the stock blower/shroud was the best design to showcase Hawaii's abilities then all well and good. Personally I don't.
* The same metric holds up across both vendors. Neither FirePro, Quadro, or Tesla feature any custom designs. I've never actually seen an analysis of whether AMD and PC Partner (AMD's OEM card manufacturer) have any special relationship of profit sharing, although I wouldn't rule it out. PC Partner and the other big AMD-only OEM/ODM, TUL Corp seem to have some unwritten hand-in-glove arrangements.
forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2222444&p=1 Speaking of throttling
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/solved-issues-with-gtx-970-by-flashing-bios.206196/unread
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/solved-issues-with-gtx-970-by-flashing-bios.206196/unread[/QUOTE]
OP said it could have possibly been due to his own error of not connecting 24pin power cable to the motherboard. It seems unlikely that this could cause a BIOS failure, but a flash did fix it. This.
The following section may be a bit disjointed as I wrote this late at night trying to process the staggered launch of the chips, the reviews, the performance, and my own observations at the time. Please bear with me if you can.
- AMDs (then ATI) last decent lead over Nvidia, was during 2006, with an architecture born from a time before AMDs acquisition of ATI. The (R400) X8** series and the later R5*0 X19** series, saw many successes against Nvidia (Geforce 6000 and 7000 series, respectively) and ultimately won the fixed-pipeline/fixed-shader battle. To end ATIs reign of 2006, Nvidia released the (G80) 8800 GTX. The X1950XTX still managed to trade punches with the hot and noisy G80, but ultimately lost out in performance, particularly when optimizations for the newer GPGPU architecture came about.
- Come May 2007, ATI releases the abysmal (R600) HD 2900 XT; this was hot, noisy and performed worse, in most cases, than the prior R5*0 architecture. Nvidia fixes the G80s issues and releases the (G92) 8800GT that same year in October with ATI quickly releasing their (RV670) HD 3870 to fix the horror which was the R600. The HD3870 was not powerful enough to topple Nvidia's G80s or the later G92s, so ATI, perhaps with a hint of desperation, releases dual-GPU cards to try and take performance crown. To their credit, the HD 3870 at least corrected most the issues with the HD 2900XT. To add further insult to ATIs failings, simply refreshed the G92 for the Geforce 9000 series, possibly enjoying decent profit.
- Mid 2008 comes around and Nvidia releases their new (GT200) GTX 280 just before ATI releases a decent answer to the G92/G80, the (RV770) HD4870. Unfortunately, while the HD4870 finally took the lead from the G92s, it could not match the GT200s so, again, ATI relied on dual-GPU cards to hassle Nvidia latest offerings. This can't be cheap for them to do.
- 2009 sees some refreshing from both sides with the RV790 and GT200b appearing. By the end of 2009, ATI releases their new TerraScale2-based (Cypress XT) HD 5870.
- We had to wait till the beginning of 2010 to see Nvidia's next architecture: the Fermi-based (GF100) GTX 480. While the Fermi took the outright performance title, it came at a cost; the GPU was hot and noisy and to make matter worse, not that much faster than ATIs latest offerings (or less so, if you consider the dual-GPU cards). This was the first time in a long while ATI/AMD had released something that was arguably better than what Nvidia could offer. To try and recover from their embarrassment, Nvidia releases the (GF110) GTX 580 at the tail end of 2010, possibly with the added pressure from AMDs latest Barts XT chips. Luckily for Nvidias sake, December saw AMDs (Cayman XT) HD6970s flop (to a degree); the VLIW4 architecture and performance would simply not scale as expected.
- 2012 is the year something major occurs; it's the first time, even with a staggered launch, that the companies don't go head to head with the best the architecture can offer. January sees AMD release the (Tahiti XT) HD7970, but in response, Nvidia only releases their mid-tier Kepler GK104 as the GTX 680. As I have stated before, the GK110 was revealed the same month of the GK104 release and was released November the same year.
So back to the original argument; while there was always a staggered launch, it wasn't until the last few generations did something like the Kepler v Tahiti occur. A mid-tier GPU going against a top-tier GPU with the same or better performance (until Tahiti XT2 atleast). This meant Nvidia, rather than fully destroying AMDs offerings with the release of the GK110, enjoyed large profits on a marked up mid-tier GPU whilst keeping an illusion of competition. History has now repeated itself with the release of the Maxwells. Is this Nvidia being kind to AMD? Or are they just looking to fool the consumer and enjoy larger profits with a marked-up chip? Price and performance has always conveniently slotted between the two brands, even when such a difference in architecture performance occurs.It's actually remarkable that a 398mm² gets anywhere close to a 551mm² GK110 using the same process node and same basic architecture. If you hadn't noticed GM 204 is a GK 104 replacement, not GK 110 since the 780 Ti's MSRP was $100 above that of the 980. The new Tonga Pro R9 285 fares even worse against Tahiti based 280 by comparison - and I'd note that I don't see anyone saying a second tier Tonga GPU is supposed to be an upgrade over the older Hawaii-based cards.