alucasaGod darn it, you Frog. We needed one more AMD news to dominate TPU news section!!!!

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Besides, who doesn't love cards designed to compete with integrated graphics cards?

I mean, right guys?

sigh. I might get the middle one if the price is right.

I can finally stuff something other than the 730 in rigs at work now woot.

Why all of these just couldn't be passive cooled since one of these is?

9700 ProWhy all of these just couldn't be passive cooled since one of these is?

Not everyone wants a passive card, remember some cases suck.

cdawallNot everyone wants a passive card, remember some cases suck.

Yeah, I guess. It's just stupid to put a fan to a low-power card like this, and usually those little fans are just noisy.

9700 ProYeah, I guess. It's just stupid to put a fan to a low-power card like this, and usually those little fans are just noisy.

I haven't had much issue out of them until they are ignored and completely filled with dust

cdawallI haven't had much issue out of them until they are ignored and completely filled with dust

I guess that depends on card, my GT 520 which lies in my closet, is pretty damn noisy. :mad:

9700 ProI guess that depends on card, my GT 520 which lies in my closet, is pretty damn noisy. :mad:

Weird I have been through a couple of the 30-45w cards with those stupid little fans and while not silent have never been any louder than the case fans.

Those fans never spin fast enough to case any noticeable noise. If they do, it's either dying or .... just wrong.

cdawallWeird I have been through a couple of the 30-45w cards with those stupid little fans and while not silent have never been any louder than the case fans.

I guess I've just had the "wrong" cards then. :laugh:

Not a single displayport? hmm...

dr904Not a single displayport? hmm...

Good point! I myself prefer HDMI & DVI, but for cards like these, HDMI + DP could be the perfect solution, DVI can be done via HDMI->DVI adapter.

9700 ProGood point! I myself prefer HDMI & DVI, but for cards like these, HDMI + DP could be the perfect solution, DVI can be done via HDMI->DVI adapter.

Yes. My thoughts exactly. I don't understand why they would use DVI instead of DP in 2017.

Why no PCIe x1 version?

Additionally, I feel like a single-slot passively-cooled version should be possible, considering GT 1030 TDP is a mere 30W.

AssimilatorWhy no PCIe x1 version?

Additionally, I feel like a single-slot passively-cooled version should be possible, considering GT 1030 TDP is a mere 30W.

Because PCIe x1 can only feed 6W for 12V rail lol

9700 ProWhy all of these just couldn't be passive cooled since one of these is?

AssimilatorAdditionally, I feel like a single-slot passively-cooled version should be possible, considering GT 1030 TDP is a mere 30W.

Because of bad memories from passively-cooled GT730. Even 28W second generation cards heavily relied on case airflow for cooling.
Had one card, that was hitting 90C on open stand. Total pain in the ass w/ hemorrhoids and stuff.

Ferrum MasterBecause PCIe x1 can only feed 6W for 12V rail lol

Couldn't find the article, but I've read that PCI-e x1 devices can negotiate power draw up to 25W. 6W on 12V rail is the base "safe" limit.
There were both PCIe x4 and x1 GT730 cards based on GK208 chips (Only x4 in retail, and x1 was a Zotac OEM variant exclusive to some Dell workstations).
I've only seen those once in the local refurb server parts store. Nice little card.

silentbogoCouldn't find the article

Here's the manual.

read.pudn.com/downloads166/ebook/758109/PCI_Express_CEM_1.1.pdf

There are a lot of buts in the 25W initalisation... that's usually for server cards... and full height, not low profile. Seconds, I don't trust mainstream entry motherboards meeting the power requirencments for pcie x1, simply they lack copper. That's more to be on the safe side... and even USB addin cards use additional molex/sata ports for needed current, with a few exceptions that reside DC-DC converters onboard and two USB ports only, a proper TYPE-C charging device could fry the sucker thou.

AMD 550 beats 1030 quite easily and 560 simply decimates 750Ti in majority of benchmarks.

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medi01AMD 550 beats 1030 quite easily and 560 simply decimates 750Ti in majority of benchmarks.

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Yeah but if you're pickin up one of these cards, gaming is probably no where near top of the list of things you do with that pc. So benchmarks mean absolutely nothing so long as the card can output 4k video streams without any stuttering or lag etc etc

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Besides, who doesn't love cards designed to compete with integrated graphics cards?

I mean, right guys?

*raises hand*

If I wait long enough for a decent Mini-ITX AM4 board to build my Ryzen powered HTPC/media server, then I will absolutely need a card exactly like this.

Solidstate89*raises hand*

If I wait long enough for a decent Mini-ITX AM4 board to build my Ryzen powered HTPC/media server, then I will absolutely need a card exactly like this.

I only have to say one thing: LP GTX1050Ti.
1030 is decent, but only if you are absolutely broke.

Ferrum MasterThere are a lot of buts in the 25W initalisation...

But, the manufacturers still do it.
What makes it even more confusing, is 25W limitation for HHFL cards. According to spec they should be limited to 25W max, and be limited to 167mm in length, but over the past 5-6 years we had a range of devices with 28-70W power constraints and length varying from 165 to 180mm.
...a-a-a-and few minutes later I found a possible loophole:roll:

Low profile cards 68.90 mm (2.731 inches) maximum

If you make it 69mm wide - it qualifies as a full-height card according to spec and can use moar powa-a-a-a-a.
But for the sake of marketing, we are gonna call it LP.
www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-4GT-LP.html#hero-specification
Though, there are some cards that are actually 68.9mm wide.... :shadedshu:
It makes my brain hurt.... This is more confusing than reading haiku without translation :banghead:

Considering a 6600 scores about 400 in time spy, so this will do about 800. An A10-7890K with 2400 memory will do about 700. (7870K with 1866 does 661). I don't really see this as a useful product. I guess if you pair if with something older, like a quad 775 or a workstation that the CPU has no iGPU, it would be OK.

Duality92Considering a 6600 scores about 400 in time spy, so this will do about 800. An A10-7890K with 2400 memory will do about 700. (7870K with 1866 does 661). I don't really see this as a useful product. I guess if you pair if with something older, like a quad 775 or a workstation that the CPU has no iGPU, it would be OK.

... or a $1000 creative production machine, which only needs this for basic acceleration in Photoshop and Premiere Pro. And as a bare minimum for comfortable 4K productivity.
You, guys, with your stereotypes and rusty imagination... :nutkick: