Monday, January 15th 2007

Toshiba shows off 51GB HD DVD

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zekrahminator
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Single and double layered HD DVD's can reach 15 and 30GB, respectively. While most experts claim this is more than enough for a 1080p movie along with a ton of goodies, Blu-ray fans have been claiming that the HD DVD is no match for the Blu-ray in terms of space. Toshiba is going to enjoy debunking that theory. They sent a three layered HD DVD to the standards overseer, in hope to get this thing patented. If they succeed in making triple-layered HD DVD's a standard, then HD DVD will officially be able to hold more data than a Blu-ray (double layer Blu-ray holds 50GB). The only problem with the triple-layer HD DVD is that it is currently not compatible with any players...but, then again, neither was Blu-ray.
Source: The Register

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20 Comments on Toshiba shows off 51GB HD DVD

#1
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
zekrahminatorThe only problem with the triple-layer HD DVD is that it is currently not compatible with any players...but, then again, neither was Blu-ray.
ROFL! :roll:
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#2
error_f0rce
Well, props to them... once they make a player.
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#3
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
This is going to be an interesting battle. Hopefully, they will make faster and cheaper drives that support both formats. Now, if they can come down in price on the media, perhaps $2 a disc, then it will be worth getting now.
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#4
Corrosion
And i thought Blu-ray was gonna be the norm ... o well ill use eather.
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#5
Track
zekrahminatorHD DVD will officially be able to hold more data than a Blu-ray (triple layer Blu-ray holds 50GB).
Uh.. a single layered Blue-Ray disk can hold 25GB of data. How can three layers hold 50GB?
And also, a triple-layered HD-DVD can only hold 45GB, so how can Toshiba "magically" make one that is 51GB? Then its not HD-DVD, its HD-DVD+ or something.
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#6
zekrahminator
McLovin
Don't ask me, ask the news source I got this stuff off of :).
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#7
Nyte
Wait a minute, I'm fairly confident that triple-layer Blu-Ray holds 75 GB. Double-Layer is 50 GB.
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#8
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
NyteWait a minute, I'm fairly confident that triple-layer Blu-Ray holds 75 GB. Double-Layer is 50 GB.
thats correct sounds like a typo to me
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#9
zekrahminator
McLovin
I'm sorry then, I must have misread the article :o.
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#10
Batou1986
i jsut wait for a combo drive before i switch over to the "NEW" formats
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#11
Track
zekrahminatorI'm sorry then, I must have misread the article :o.
We dont like it when ppl bad mouth Blue-Ray! ;)
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#12
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
I am sure sony will counter with three layered Blu-Ray discs making them at least 75GB, or more if they also increase the data density per layer.
TrackAnd also, a triple-layered HD-DVD can only hold 45GB, so how can Toshiba "magically" make one that is 51GB? Then its not HD-DVD, its HD-DVD+ or something.
On fark you would get a nice RTFA, I guess you got one here too.:toast:
The new disc's higher capacity arises from an increase in the storage space on each layer, to 17GB.
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#13
Benpi
This is a stupid battle anyway. In 5 years, everyone will be downloading, or watching 1080 res. on demand.
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#14
EastCoasthandle
A 3 layer disc is going to be hard to copy from. And should cost double any HD-DVD costs now. If they ever do make a burner for it (for backup software needs) it's going be as slow as a 2x on cd-r
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#15
Lazzer408
BenpiThis is a stupid battle anyway. In 5 years, everyone will be downloading, or watching 1080 res. on demand.
I bet it's less then that. Maybe 2. Everyone is pushing for IPTV and whatnot.
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#16
xylomn
BenpiThis is a stupid battle anyway. In 5 years, everyone will be downloading, or watching 1080 res. on demand.
While downloading and on-demand are good sometimes personally I like to own physical copies of what I buy.. I'm just shallow like that :p
NyteWait a minute, I'm fairly confident that triple-layer Blu-Ray holds 75 GB. Double-Layer is 50 GB.
One thing I must question however is wheather we really need 75GB discs atm... no doubt we'll need them in the future but for high def video we need nowhere near this, and if I had that much data to back up I wouldn't do it to a slow, easily damaged disc, I'd do it to a hard drive.
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#17
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
why not just work on bigger flashdrives that would be better IMO
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#18
overcast
BenpiThis is a stupid battle anyway. In 5 years, everyone will be downloading, or watching 1080 res. on demand.
So 5 years we are going to have the infrastructure in place for 1080p streams? If not streaming, how long are we going to have to wait for 30GB to download, and where are we going to store it?

When people purchase something, they want something tangible. Downloadable movies in any type of respectable quality are a long long long way away.

P.S. Show me a triple layer Bluray disc that isn't someones dream. Two layers is so close to the surface of the disc as it is, triple will be just silly.
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#19
Lazzer408
overcastSo 5 years we are going to have the infrastructure in place for 1080p streams? If not streaming, how long are we going to have to wait for 30GB to download, and where are we going to store it?

When people purchase something, they want something tangible. Downloadable movies in any type of respectable quality are a long long long way away.

P.S. Show me a triple layer Bluray disc that isn't someones dream. Two layers is so close to the surface of the disc as it is, triple will be just silly.
I d/l good quality movies all the time. oops... I've said too much. :D
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#20
overcast
Lazzer408I d/l good quality movies all the time. oops... I've said too much. :D
No you don't, you just think you do.
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