AquinusI had to mix it up. My wife complains about things like how old the lock screen on my phone is (it's ~3 years old and transferred over from the last phone.) :laugh:

eidairaman1Put a picture of her on your lock screen lol

AquinusHow about this less radical change? Keep is seasonal instead of assimilated?

JackOneIf 20-30% is suddenly called "barely" he's probably right.

JackOneIf 20-30% is suddenly called "barely" he's probably right.

sergionographyTrue but he did mention having his sandy bridge clocked at 4.5ghz. Thats over 20% clock increase over my ryzen 7 1700 with its 3.7ghz turbo. Bit less if u compare it to ryzen 7 1800. But u get the point.

lexluthermiesterWhile that is true, the IPC is different for SandyBridge VS Ryzen. They do not compare clock per clock. Ryzen has a higher IPC.

sergionographyYes but I was saying perhaps thats what he meant by small single threaded performance difference is due to him overclocking his chip. Doesnt mean much tho knowing that ryzen has twice the cores starting eith 65w tdp vs his 125w+. Technological advancements are more than just "single threaded performance". Hopefully people will one day realize that

lexluthermiesterThose are good points. The performance difference between the two isn't big enough to justify an upgrade unless he intends to OC a Ryzen and needs the better IPC and multi-threaded performance.

cryohellincif it will be able to reach 4.5ghz - that will be a no brainer upgrade for me.

trparkySame thing I'm thinking. That 4 GHz wall with the current crop of Ryzen chips stops me from getting it. If they can somehow smash past that wall and manage to get to 4.5 GHz then I'll definitely buy it.

sergionographyTrue but he did mention having his sandy bridge clocked at 4.5ghz. Thats over 20% clock increase over my ryzen 7 1700 with its 3.7ghz turbo. Bit less if u compare it to ryzen 7 1800. But u get the point.

JackOneyeah I do but I was talking about IPC. That extra 500 MHz does barely set off the IPC disadvantage but results in higher power consumption, the 4 core's less aside. There are games that utilize more than 4 cores now, Ryzen would be better there (eg BF1). But SB is still fine, I would only upgrade from SB for a highend GPU like 1080 Ti and only to 8700K probably, Ryzen is not quite fast enough for highend gaming if you ask me, but I guess Ryzen refresh will be, should have 12nm + higher clocks, about 400-500 MHz. Small IPC gains are possible too, maybe 5%, so the difference between AMD and Intel which is about 5-15% depending on game is basically reduced to zero then. 2018 will be even better times for CPU buyers.

lexluthermiesterIf the "4 GHz wall" is putting you off, you've missed both an opportunity and the focus of AMD's goal with Ryzen.

trparkyYeah well when you consider that my processor is overclocked to 4.4 GHz anything less than that seems like it's a downgrade.

trparkyEven if I were to do an upgrade now it would be silly to do so now considering that a new batch of Ryzen chips will be out in a couple of months. Better to wait.

lexluthermiester4ghz OC on a Ryzen7 cpu

trparkyWith the current crop of Ryzen chips you can't guarantee you're going to get a 4 GHz overclock. Statistics have it that only 15% can reach 4 GHz, most chips can barely reach 3.8 GHz.

Darmok N JaladYeah, if his SB is still pulling its own weight for his needs, then there really isn't much incentive to drop big bucks on a base system upgrade (CPU+MB+RAM). Even the energy saving gains of new technology can be hard to realize, unless he runs his system at 100% load a lot. The idle and sleep gains probably get lost somewhere in the PSU efficiency. It would be interesting to see just what the energy consumption difference would be for his annual use, old versus new.

Darmok N JaladFYI, if you have a Microcenter near you, they have the 1800X for $299 and the 1700X for $229, and they usually offer another discount ($30) when purchased with a qualifying motherboard.

They also have the 1950X for $699.

eidairaman1Do you just see what I just did?

If you are going to respond to multiple replies on threads, please use the Multiquote and edit/delete buttons.

Double posting is against forum rules, plus it disorganizes the forum, so please use the buttons.

Posting in a thread

• Be polite, if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all. This includes trolling, continuous use of bad language (ie. cussing), flaming and insulting others.
• Short and pointless posts like "yeah", "me too" or "haha" can be made on the rest of the internet, not here. Post count doesn't increase your e-penis.
• Stay on topic, changing the topic won't help the discussion.
• If you reply to multiple posts use the "multi quote" button, that way the forum is easier to read.

eidairaman1I think Beaker for your avatar was better lol

AquinusI had to mix it up. My wife complains about things like how old the lock screen on my phone is (it's ~3 years old and transferred over from the last phone.) :laugh:

eidairaman1Put a picture of her on your lock screen lol

AquinusHow about this less radical change? Keep is seasonal instead of assimilated?

eidairaman1Well you wouldn't have to hear her tell you to change the picture lol.

Your avatar is funny now

Darmok N JaladI guess I understand, though I did not reply to anyone in my second "offending" post, which I made almost an hour later. It was unrelated to my earlier reply, but still on topic, hence a second post. I suppose I felt that it fell into the gray area of forum etiquette. Also, you may wish to amend the forum rules on double posts, as it never says such a thing.













This is your forum to police, but does a user with 49 posts over the course of 9 months really need to get a warning about "excessive posting" when there are several OT posts in the very thread he is attempting to contribute to? :confused: