are they going to pull the same crap and make it so the newer chips dont work with the z370? just like they did with z370 vs 270?

Luke51087are they going to pull the same crap and make it so the newer chips dont work with the z370? just like they did with z370 vs 270?

You either have to be alternatively gifted or filthy rich to swap your CPU every year. No one in their right mind does this which means most users couldn't care less that Intel introduces new platforms/chipsets as often as they do. I'm still on Sandy Bridge and no, even 8700K doesn't really excite me - in the tasks I'm running its IPC is barely higher.

Of course, AMD fans will use every opportunity to slander Intel but I prefer not to take sides.

birdieYou either have to be alternatively gifted or filthy rich to swap your CPU every year. No one in their right mind does this which means most users couldn't care less that Intel introduces new platforms/chipsets as often as they do. I'm still on Sandy Bridge and no, even 8700K doesn't really excite me - in the tasks I'm running its IPC is barely higher.

Of course, AMD fans will use every opportunity to slander Intel but I prefer not to take sides.

Just wondering my self, i do have an 8700k just wondering if you need a new board to take advantage of 2 more cores if that is what the z390 will support.

birdieYou either have to be alternatively gifted or filthy rich to swap your CPU every year. No one in their right mind does this...

I do it just about yearly and am hardly rich, then again I love and write about tech for a living.

I'm going to go with "Alternatively gifted." :laugh:

I still wonder if Cannon Lake will be a full refresh of Coffee Lake, or as some sources claim, a partial refresh like Broadwell. Considering Ice Lake is ready for mass production and just waiting for the yield on 10nm to become good enough, it sounds pointless with a full Cannon Lake lineup and the node isn't ready to hit clock speeds comparable to 14 nm.

birdieYou either have to be alternatively gifted or filthy rich to swap your CPU every year. No one in their right mind does this which means most users couldn't care less that Intel introduces new platforms/chipsets as often as they do. I'm still on Sandy Bridge and no, even 8700K doesn't really excite me - in the tasks I'm running its IPC is barely higher.

Of course, AMD fans will use every opportunity to slander Intel but I prefer not to take sides.

Just my $0.02. Flame me as much as you want :D


Forget AMD VS INTEL

Let's do the math here.

New CPU about $400(i7 or equivalent) + new motherboard $300(decent/good board)

$700 every year to "upgrade" in USD on the "high" end but not a x299 chipset and cpu

Selling old parts: Prob get around 300 on the "low" end. So about $400 to upgrade

So I agree with R-T-B. You don't need to be rich or "gifted" to upgrade.

I can say this, if you stop wasting on money on things you don't need, you'll have money for what you want.

I live in southern California. I see so many of my friend's say they are "broke" but go out and spend 12 bucks on avocado toast breakfast or their 5 bucks Starbucks coffee.

If you save 8 bucks a week for a year, you'd have more than the 400 to "upgrade".

BadFrogJust my $0.02. Flame me as much as you want :D


Forget AMD VS INTEL

Let's do the math here.

New CPU about $400(i7 or equivalent) + new motherboard $300(decent/good board)

$700 every year to "upgrade" in USD on the "high" end but not a x299 chipset and cpu

Selling old parts: Prob get around 300 on the "low" end. So about $400 to upgrade

So I agree with R-T-B. You don't need to be rich or "gifted" to upgrade.

I can say this, if you stop wasting on money on things you don't need, you'll have money for what you want.

I live in southern California. I see so many of my friend's say they are "broke" but go out and spend 12 bucks on avocado toast breakfast or their 5 bucks Starbucks coffee.

If you save 8 bucks a week for a year, you'd have more than the 400 to "upgrade".

Oh hell no, not those expensive motherboards. For me, 150eur is the maximum I'd pay for a motherboard.

But yeah, no need to upgrade in years, 7700K @ 5.1GHz is fine.

birdieOf course, AMD fans will use every opportunity to slander Intel but I prefer not to take sides.

Flaming AMD fans makes you an Intel fanboi and a hypocrite, that sentence was not required in your post.

BadFrogJust my $0.02. Flame me as much as you want :D


Forget AMD VS INTEL

Let's do the math here.

New CPU about $400(i7 or equivalent) + new motherboard $300(decent/good board)

$700 every year to "upgrade" in USD on the "high" end but not a x299 chipset and cpu

Selling old parts: Prob get around 300 on the "low" end. So about $400 to upgrade

So I agree with R-T-B. You don't need to be rich or "gifted" to upgrade.

I can say this, if you stop wasting on money on things you don't need, you'll have money for what you want.

I live in southern California. I see so many of my friend's say they are "broke" but go out and spend 12 bucks on avocado toast breakfast or their 5 bucks Starbucks coffee.

If you save 8 bucks a week for a year, you'd have more than the 400 to "upgrade".

So true I have a friend who spends $36 on breakfast and lunch everyday...he's looking to build a pc now and claims he's broke. I cant understand that I make that $36 last me a month by buying bulk items and cooking it myself. The money I save is now put towards my splurging and he still don't get it.

springs113So true I have a friend who spends $36 on breakfast and lunch everyday...he's looking to build a pc now and claims he's broke. I cant understand that I make that $36 last me a month by buying bulk items and cooking it myself. The money I save is now put towards my splurging and he still don't get it.

I'd rather buy beer than spend so much on food!

I forgot to say that I don't have "sides" on CPU manufacturers. Kinda I'm pissed that I bought 7700K instead of Ryzen.

Chloe PriceOh hell no, not those expensive motherboards. For me, 150eur is the maximum I'd pay for a motherboard.

But yeah, no need to upgrade in years, 7700K @ 5.1GHz is fine.

I was exaggerating the numbers so people wouldn't say I made it look better by using lower numbers, so I used a higher number. Yes, 150 EURO board is plenty fine for most people.

springs113So true I have a friend who spends $36 on breakfast and lunch everyday...he's looking to build a pc now and claims he's broke. I cant understand that I make that $36 last me a month by buying bulk items and cooking it myself. The money I save is now put towards my splurging and he still don't get it.

Seriously! Cooking at home will save you thousands a year! Now if people wanted to be even more frugal, they could even do something like ebates.com or use cash back cards. Through ebates, I got back around 200 last year. Really didn't do much different. Just clicked a link when I did online shopping and got cash back lol.

Chloe PriceI'd rather buy beer than spend so much on food!

So true, I also do splurge on my beer and spirits.

I'm going to wait for the Z490, that is when Intel will truly shine.

Luke51087Just wondering my self, i do have an 8700k just wondering if you need a new board to take advantage of 2 more cores if that is what the z390 will support.

shouldnt need to, they overhauled the pin layout to have ore power delivery with the 300 series boards (lga 1151v2)

FluffmeisterI'm going to wait for the Z490, that is when Intel will truly shine.

That doesn't make sense - you're waiting for the new AMD chipset, so that Intel will really shine? Or did you mean Z390 (new Intel chipset)?

We didn't know if the new intel 8 cores 1151 cpu can work in current Z370 mobo (with new bios).

R-T-BI do it just about yearly and am hardly rich, then again I love and write about tech for a living.
I'm going to go with "Alternatively gifted." :laugh:

Neither of you is wrong. Replacing CPUs every year/generation is usually either a job or an expensive hobby. Even a large majority of enthusiasts will skip a generation or two.

I'm actually taking pride in being able to use a 6 year old CPU today. My i7 3930K is still a beast, especially when overclocked to 4.2 GHz (which is easily achieved). The software I run (mainly Adobe Lightroom) can hardly use the many cores I have. I wish software vendors would do a better job in writing multithreaded applications instead of relying on better single core performance.