I was for another digital store until they started doing exclusives.

lynx29this is capitalism baby.

Be careful what you wish for ;)

the54thvoidYes, destroy the competition then once there is no other alternative, raise prices significantly.

So long as GOG, Steam et al are healthy & profitable it's good for the consumers. The day they turn to red/go bust we'll see exactly what we're seeing in the GPU space or CPUs previously for a good decade, if not more.

And they keep hurting PC gaming. Yes I know some don´t care about having 10 different stores installed to play games, but a lot do and this starts to be another factor in favour of consoles.

lynx29seems like such a bad publicity to allow this, lol. loads of bad publicity all for 16 days of a sale window? unless they check they wrote was massive... which im sure it was, this is a huge mistake...

1 year & 16 days

R0H1TBe careful what you wish for ;)So long as GOG, Steam et al are healthy & profitable it's good for the consumers. The day they turn to red/go bust we'll see exactly what we're seeing in the GPU space or CPUs previously for a good decade, if not more.

oh? lower prices is a bad thing and more profit for the game makers? sure thing. also i could care less if gaming died, its one of my many hobbies, i will simply read more adventures instead of play them, welcome to 1st world issues.

yakk1 year & 16 days

my brain must have died, lol thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense.

The only issue I have with Epic is it’s just a storefront that well, appears to be poaching games. Steam is WAY more than just a storefront and we all know it..

We need to support 4A Games as a publisher, put aside this stupid linear and tunnel vision way of thinking. They are a small studio they do need funds and if Epic were able to help them out good for them. We always cry about greedy AAA publishers and about miscrotransaction and how they ruin the art of creating video games. Now instead of supporting an amazing developer we hide behind a stupid insignificant things like installing a new launcher. Well I guess we do not deserve publishers like them. When all of us will swim in the vast ocean of microtranscation purgatory in a few years don't cry because we deserve every single drop of it.

lynx29oh? lower prices is a bad thing and more profit for the game makers? sure thing. also i could care less if gaming died, its one of my many hobbies, i will simply read more adventures instead of play them, welcome to 1st world issues.



my brain must have died, lol thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense.

Who said lower prices, for consumers, is a bad thing? But not some of these "introductory" prices, which can get jacked up when there's a monopoly or just one store selling that game.

Good to know, if it weren't for insane prices of hard/soft cover books these days I'd also read more. Reading books on a tablet, e reader is not something I fancy - having grown up in a time/place where the feel of books IMO will never be usurped.

LightningKilling one channel with millions of possible buyers for a bit more money per sale from a way smaller market (Epic Game store).
Marketing 9000+.

I think the game sells itself anyway, the platform isn't relevant at all.

Which is the actual take away here, I think. Its just a store, people. Steam too, no matter how much additional BS they build around it.

ab3eWe need to support 4A Games as a publisher, put aside this stupid linear and tunnel vision way of thinking. They are a small studio they do need funds and if Epic were able to help them out good for them. We always cry about greedy AAA publishers and about miscrotransaction and how they ruin the art of creating video games. Now instead of supporting an amazing developer we hide behind a stupid insignificant things like installing a new launcher. Well I guess we do not deserve publishers like them. When all of us will swim in the vast ocean of microtranscation purgatory in a few years don't cry because we deserve every single drop of it.

Precisely! Its not even about 'the DRM' anymore, which in the case of the double DRM of back when with Steam moving to buggy Uplay + shitty servers is absolutely justified.

R0H1TWho said lower prices, for consumers, is a bad thing? But not some of these "introductory" prices, which can get jacked up when there's a monopoly or just one store selling that game.

Good to know, if it weren't for insane prices of hard/soft cover books these days I'd also read more. Reading books on a tablet, e reader is not something I fancy - having grown up in a time/place where the feel of books IMO will never be usurped.

I go to the public library, and if they don't have the book I want they order it for me. Evergreen Indiana is a united one state library, it's pretty neat, and free. I guess I am set even if the book industry begins to fail since I have such a large backlog. Cheers for reminding me.

ab3eWe need to support 4A Games as a publisher, put aside this stupid linear and tunnel vision way of thinking. They are a small studio they do need funds and if Epic were able to help them out good for them. We always cry about greedy AAA publishers and about miscrotransaction and how they ruin the art of creating video games. Now instead of supporting an amazing developer we hide behind a stupid insignificant things like installing a new launcher. Well I guess we do not deserve publishers like them. When all of us will swim in the vast ocean of microtranscation purgatory in a few years don't cry because we deserve every single drop of it.

Well said. I’m going to vote with my wallet and get Exodus on Epic. There is no guarantee it will ever come to GOG, and it’s cheaper on Epic than Steam.

Steam has become a middle aged parent totally out of touch with their kids. Frankly it reeks of mothballs. It is a confusing jumble of so many worthless games and early access, some which never finish, and a few good ones.

rtwjunkieWell said. I’m going to vote with my wallet and get Exodus on Epic. There is no guarantee it will ever come to GOG, and it’s cheaper on Epic than Steam.

Steam has become a middle aged parent totally out of touch with their kids. Frankly it reeks of mothballs. It is a confusing jumble of so many worthless games and early access, some which never finish, and a few good ones.

The last time I browsed Steam and ended up with an interesting game to play was... I honestly can't remember. Its always been just a store for me. With a neat library and workshop function, but game devs can manage that last one just fine themselves, they only had to connect to it.

I must say if I compare that to for example GOG as a store, GOG seems to be so much neater, more organized, less cluttered and better curated.

Valve are getting exactly what they deserve here for being greedy with fees.

RavenmasterValve are getting exactly what they deserve here for being greedy with fees.

like most monopolies they just became lazy until competition arrived, hopefully gabe re-thinks his strategies.

ab3eLets all be serious now and accept the fact that Steam has done nothing to improve the platform for years.

That's a bit of a narrow view. Check out Jim Sterling's channel. He had lots to say about it this year, including a big "sitdown" with steam curators, improvements of the game validation process, cleaning up the mess and banning dishonest "developers".
There are still problems, for sure, but there has been lots of movement in the right direction.

silentbogoThat's a bit of a narrow view. Check out Jim Sterling's channel. He had lots to say about it this year, including a big "sitdown" with steam curators, improvements of the game validation process, cleaning up the mess and banning dishonest "developers".
There are still problems, for sure, but there has been lots of movement in the right direction.

Well, given the % of the market they own, they should be doing a hell of a lot more. This feels like a skeleton crew at work. Valve time may apply for their gaming, but a marketplace won't accept it.

lynx29like most monopolies they just became lazy until competition arrived, hopefully gabe re-thinks his strategies.

Yeah hopefully he'll shit can Artifact after its lackluster following and finally make Half Life 3 (the game pretty much every man, woman and dog wanted to be announced at TI7 but wasn't).

Vayra86Well, given the % of the market they own, they should be doing a hell of a lot more. This feels like a skeleton crew at work. Valve time may apply for their gaming, but a marketplace won't accept it.

I like how it still takes this multi billion dollar private company called Steam 2 weeks sometimes to reply to a question to customer service. Absolutely amazes me. I asked about the Christmas knock-knack badge from the 2018 holiday, and why it is permanent on everyones profile page, I hate that brown turd right at the top of my steam profile and crafting new badges doesn't slide it over like other badges get slid over... I spent a lot of time making my profile pleasing to the eye as a lot of people I know have. Valve and Gabe just do not get it anymore, old and lazy and out of touch. I am really glad Epic Games is kicking major butt lately, and this is only the beginning I think, they are coming at Steam like a freight train with insane amounts of Fortnite money to back them up, because they know Fortnite won't last forever and they want a more permanent foundation.

One less game I wont get to not finish.

yakkCompanies buying exclusivity (monopoly) always ends up expensive for the consumer long term.

I highly doubt there's any exclusivity agreement involved. Epic Games Store simply makes an offer that makes everyone else look like highway robbery (and it's true, really). Costs to distribute games are constantly falling but the amount distributors ask for does not. It's past due time for that to change. Developers/publishers deserve a bigger share.

Well, that's unfortunate. Now I won't get to experience their game, and they won't get to experience my money. Lose/lose.

Anyway, why can't it be on both stores or all the other ones out there too? i can't believe how people are defending this nonsense with "Developer will earn more cash in Epic Store". This is basically giving the finger to Steam consumers. I own over 450 Titles on Steam and i am not about to give up my library for one or two titles. I will no longer support any other Digital Store appart from Steam and GoG. This is not Competition, this is a new low for Deep Silver. Poor Metro Devs.

Back in the days of physical distribution copies retailers took nearly half the cash of every sale, and everyone was ok with it. Steam comes with their new System of Digital Distribution taking only a 30% and everyone moves there with joy. Now a decade later everyone shitting on Steam because they are supposedly being "unfair" to Developers. Trading in a few extra % Cash instead of all the possible sales on Steam. Idiotic move, plus all the hate from the PC Gamers out there, which are 95% of Steam users. Publishers are just getting greedier and want every little extra cash possible. I think Steam could offer to cut their 30% to 20% to basically every title on Steam and it's still fair because of the massive amount of Steam users there.

If all game manufacturers stop releasing on steam, I guess I'll go back to playing cracked copies of games.. Same goes for all the tv/movie content providers moving to their own streaming services.... People don't want dozens of accounts, services, etc... at least I don't.

Please don't forget what Valve did and is doing for Linux. They're not just another greedy monopoly.

TheOneI was for another digital store until they started doing exclusives.

This is clearly how you make valve bend. If everyone starts jumping ship, then they'll have to lower prices. Steam markup is the same as apple, insane.

TheGuruStudThis is clearly how you make valve bend. If everyone starts jumping ship, then they'll have to lower prices. Steam markup is the same as apple, insane.

Epic is definitely a developer first store.