assurances.... the heck are they going to tell you "yea we're working on it"

atleast, they're sayin it :)

For over a year they have been bullshiting us with their propoganda telling us that only nVidia products are good enough for Vista, specifically their slogan "buy an Geforce graphics card for a Premium vista experience" and now they cant even deliver a good experience? This is just too much.
And I actually emailed them asking them why they claim that only "Geforce" graphics cards will deliver a "premium" vista experience while ATI cards wont, and they never responded.
nVidia has alwasy been big on propoganda, much more than ATI and if it works, then there is no point for the human race anymore.

yet still no 8800 drivers for vista, let alone vista dx10 drivers for vista....rofl

looks like xp still owns ;)

BXtremelooks like xp still owns ;)

Who says so ..??

anybody whos smart enought to not buy a windows os the day it comes out :)

vista is still a long way from being ready for prime, poor driver support at best, buggs galor, poor software support, oh yeah, and all that lovely DRM crap :)

JudasWho says so ..??

XP is perfect. The only reason to upgrade is for DX10. We are the only ones who will upgrade and not be dissapointed.

Vista works fine too..and XP is far from perfect

2003=perfect :D

i would,nt say poor driver support for 1 driver.all my drivers work fine.including the 97.xx nvidia driver.and poor software support? iam a gamer and all my games work fine.

JudasVista works fine too..and XP is far from perfect

glad ya got that right :toast:
XP pwnz Vista for now, but situations may change after 2008 and fatal in 2009, cuz 2008 we'll see more use of vista to desktops, 2009 XP will be discontinued.
Oh well, upto then we'll have uber specs :rockout:

tigger69i would,nt say poor driver support for 1 driver.all my drivers work fine.including the 97.xx nvidia driver.and poor software support? iam a gamer and all my games work fine.

try CS 1.6, you'll get some hang ups, and warrock too sucks with vista
-- says a vista user ;)

hehe by 2009 i would be ms has a new version of windows to replace vista, and it will run 500bucks for the best version or more most likely ;)

well, ms is kinda unpredictable. they may make some os which will blow up ppl's minds again.
Here's my thought : If Vista woudn't have come/or come later, most of the pc's in the world would've been weak, except for enthusiasts and gamers. How many ppl agree w/ this ? :)

the only weak systems today are the p4/pd(netburst) systems IMHO, and they are even being sold with vista now.

vista is bloated DRM crap, maby somebody will crack the DRM and make a nice version that wont screw up playback of audio/video content if you dont have hollywood approved hardware.

ya but, millions of ppl had just upgraded their pc's to vista's recommended specs just to run it, this helped maintain the pc performance ratio all over the world.
And, also a gamer's only vista should be made for gamers, which sm1 will surely do ;)

why bother with vista yet? i got 2003 sp2 custom disk that takes 12-16min to do a clean install with :)

does visually 2003 look diff. than XP ? and do XP drivers work with it ? and btw my vista install takes 15min exact but for 2003 not bad, mine maybe faster :)

its just xp after alot of extra dev, its what they based 64bit xp off of and vista off of(tho they bloated the shit out of vista)

it can look exectly like xp tho i dissable themes and use classic menues/desktop because i personaly feel the xp ones look like "fisherprice my first pc"

2003 uses xp/2k drivers, uses less resorces, runs faster, is far more stable, it has to be its a server os:)

how is 2003 for gaming, doesn't sound gd cuz it's a server os :)

its quite litterly JUST XP AFTER ALOT MORE DEV TIME, im a gamer, and only 2 games gave me ANY trouble ever, doom3 due to MSI only allowing install on 2k/xp, easly fixed or bypassed, and an OLD game i have that dosnt like insalling on nt based os's but runs fine once installed.

vista is based on 2003 server.

i said that, vista is based on 2003, but bloated to hell and with DRM chucked onto the main os kernel(more bloat)

sorry musta missed it.

i'm just waiting for a new nvidia certified driver and the creative certified x-fi driver and i'll be happy.

i'm using the 100.59 vid driver,supposed to be a bit quicker than 79.xx.