Friday, June 14th 2019

ASMedia-sourced AMD B550, A520 Chipset Motherboards Arrive in 2020
If a recent MSRP price-list leak is anything to go by, motherboards based on the AMD X570 chipset will cost a pretty penny, beating even Intel's premium Z390 Express chipset on average motherboard pricing. Those looking for an affordable motherboard for the Ryzen 3000 series processors have the option of choosing existing AMD 400-series chipset based motherboards, and taking advantage of the USB BIOS Flashback feature that's almost universally available on the AMD platform. You lose out on PCI-Express gen 4.0 with the older platforms, which may not be a big compromise when it comes to graphics cards, but would limit your M.2 NVMe SSD performance upgrade path. One possible option would be to wait for affordable variants of AMD's 500-series chipsets, which are sourced from ASMedia.
According to DigiTimes, ASMedia will tape out its next-generation AMD-platform chipset silicon, and is on track to shipping its new chipsets to motherboard manufacturers by Q4-2019. This would pin availability of the first motherboards based on these chipsets to at least Q1 2020. These chipsets not only feature PCI-Express gen 4.0 downstream lanes, but also boards based on these will be built to AMD's PCB requirements for the new platform, enabling a PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slot for discrete graphics, and revised CPU VRM and memory wiring specifications that improve overclocking over the previous generation platform. For now there are two SKUs in the works, the B550, which succeeds the B450, and the A520, succeeding the A320.Image Credit: Hardware.info
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DigiTimes
According to DigiTimes, ASMedia will tape out its next-generation AMD-platform chipset silicon, and is on track to shipping its new chipsets to motherboard manufacturers by Q4-2019. This would pin availability of the first motherboards based on these chipsets to at least Q1 2020. These chipsets not only feature PCI-Express gen 4.0 downstream lanes, but also boards based on these will be built to AMD's PCB requirements for the new platform, enabling a PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slot for discrete graphics, and revised CPU VRM and memory wiring specifications that improve overclocking over the previous generation platform. For now there are two SKUs in the works, the B550, which succeeds the B450, and the A520, succeeding the A320.Image Credit: Hardware.info
83 Comments on ASMedia-sourced AMD B550, A520 Chipset Motherboards Arrive in 2020
Plus, we both know the BOM and the R&D aren't that much higher between mid/high and ultra-high end.
The 2oz copper thing is a Gigabyte slogan, even if others most likely have it, they don't market it as such.
The BOM is a fair bit higher on these ultra-high-end boards, as they have things like 10Gbps Ethernet, which adds around $50 to the BOM, plus Wi-Fi, better audio components and even SSD expansion cards. It all adds up once the board makers put their margin on it, then the distributor and finally the reseller...
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#support-cpu
That said, I tend to end up getting boards in the six layer price range normally.
I can 100% understand why AMD does not want to support it!..
A Pci-E slot has same bandwidth as a DDR4 single channel at 3200 according to buildzoid so we know how much boards with superb tracing for memory costs and how much it matters, and now it'll matter for all pci-e slots, m2 slots, to chipset.
No wonder why it's more expensive!
Also, how is DDR4@3200 (~25Gbps) equal to PCIe3.0 x16 (~16Gbps)?
You'd also be surprised how easy is for a knowledgeable guy with modern software to trace a physical interface on PCB. It's the testing and validation that are expensive.
Mind you, 16c/32t on DUAL CHANNEL memory will be a bottleneck fest on a lot of applications. Not all of them tho.
You read it here first.
and it's not the 3950x that trump Intel ... actually ;)
sooo what's the point? oh btw ... young? that's rich coming from someone who is 10yrs younger :p
don't worry i intend to take a X470 and a R7 3700x/R5 3600x which will still be a better value for the money than the upcoming line from Intel ... i guess i am just fed up that they did f'ck up the OC via M$ update and disabled any OC stability on my 6600K and also all their issues with the meltdown spectre et cetera which once the mitigation put in place lowered their ipc to what it was really, so, then their vulnerability came from tricks that made them faster? that's even richer... compromise on security to make them faster and so they can put up a outrageous pricing (granted more by blind customer loyalty than performances gap in reality ) is really awesome ...
• I mentioned memory performance as a potential area that differentiates B550 from B450
• you then ask me what B550 will have to do with performance
• you then proceed to cite memory performance as a potential area of improvement
Do you see the humor here?
Until we know for certain that B550 won't be important to getting full performance out of Ryzen 3000 (aside from PCI-e 4 which isn't relevant since it's restricted to the top tier chipset) then people shouldn't make proclamations about how irrelevant B550 is. That was what I was trying to get across.
• Motherboard quality may need to be higher in B550 to guarantee 3200 out of the box with broad compatibility, in a manner similar to the way PCI-e 4 requires more layers apparently.
• BIOS updates may be more forthcoming for B550 to get better memory performance at speeds beyond 3200, and with better timings and compatibility.
• B die being EOL may impact increase the importance of board and BIOS quality.
One way to trick one's way into supporting higher RAM frequencies is to have the board automatically loosen some lesser-known settings a whole lot. That kind of flabby approach is likely to be discovered by serious enthusiast reviewers.
Top top things off, I read that some B350 boards may never get 3000 series support. Perhaps that has changed but an earlier article I read suggested that only the "more popular" boards would get the update. And, many boards may only get beta BIOS support. Many are not happy installing a beta BIOS.
Betting on a socket at the end of his life?!
Everyone: praise lawd Jeezus!
AMD: makes 1 socket lasts 4 years.
Everyone: autistic screeching
I guess no matter what you do there always going to be that one guy.
Personally I am looking for NVMe SSD MLC for OS, TLC can be for game storing with 512GB and 3GB reading/writing. I am planning in near future to get AORUS NVMe Gen 4 SSD, 1TB memory, and up to 5GB reading and 4GB writing speed, of course it costs quite a sum 250-300 Euro's , but much more worth than SATA SSD's, and performance is just unbelievable for such price.
The only sad thing I dislike, is that they all are, or majority are, TCL, and MCL are rare to find in this haystack of TCL's.