Tuesday, April 21st 2020

AMD Announces 3rd Gen Ryzen 3 Quad-Core Desktop Processors and AMD B550 PCIe 4.0 Chipset

Today, AMD announced the newest additions to the 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen desktop processor family, the AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and AMD Ryzen 3 3300X processors and AMD B550 Chipset for Socket AM4 designed for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen desktop processors with over 60 designs in development. Taking advantage of the AMD world-class portfolio of technologies, these new Ryzen 3 desktop processors bring the groundbreaking "Zen 2" core architecture to business users, gamers, and creators worldwide, leveraging Simultaneous Multi-Threading (SMT) technology for increased productivity. With double the threads, twice the bandwidth, and a wide selection of motherboards in development the AMD B550 chipset and Ryzen 3 desktop processors deliver the ideal processing solution from top to bottom.

"Games and applications are becoming more and more demanding, and with this, users are demanding more from their PCs," said Saeid Moshkelani, senior vice president and general manager, client business unit. "AMD is committed to providing solutions that meet and exceed those demands for all levels of computing. With the addition of these new Ryzen 3 desktop processors we are continuing this commitment with our mainstream gaming customers. We've taken performance up a level, doubling the processing threads of our Ryzen 3 processors to propel gaming and multitasking experiences to new heights."
AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and AMD Ryzen 3 3300X
Continuing to demonstrate its leadership in the consumer desktop space, the AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and AMD Ryzen 3 3300X represent the fastest ever AMD Ryzen 3 desktop processors, bringing world class desktop performance to mainstream gamers. They also stand for AMD's commitment to improving CPU performance and technologies for consumers by enabling SMT on a Ryzen 3 desktop processor for the very first time.

The processors take advantage of 18 MB Cache, delivering dramatic memory latency reduction, translating directly to smoother, faster gaming performance for high framerates in CPU-heavy games. Further, with four cores, eight threads, and AMD SMT technology, the new Ryzen 3 processors provide incredible multitasking performance and responsiveness that consumers need.

The AMD Ryzen 3 3100 offers:
  • Up to 20% gaming performance than the competition
  • Up to 75% creator performance than the competition
AMD B550 Chipset
The new B550 chipset for socket AM4 is the latest addition to the AMD 500 Series chipset family with support for the industry-leading AMD Ryzen 3000 Series desktop processors. The upcoming B550 motherboards are the only mainstream modern chipset with compatibility for PCIe 4.0, unlocking twice the bandwidth of B450 motherboards for high-speed, high-power performance in gaming and multitasking.

Availability
The AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and AMD Ryzen 3 3300X are expected to be available from leading retailers and etailers worldwide beginning May 2020. AMD B550 motherboards are expected to be available beginning June 16, 2020 from ODM partners including ASRock, ASUS, Biostar, Colorful, GIGABYTE, and MSI at leading retailers and etailers.
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83 Comments on AMD Announces 3rd Gen Ryzen 3 Quad-Core Desktop Processors and AMD B550 PCIe 4.0 Chipset

#51
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
bonehead123Tru dat, but still I would have rather seen AMD apply thier talents to something more progressive and exciting, like pcie 5/DDR5.....:)
... this is for AM4, which has one generation left. AM5 will be DDR5 and updated PCI-E standards when they release

why are you expecting things years before any roadmap says they're exist?
Ex amd fanboyB550 is basically the same thing, as intel does with unnecessary socket change. 1151v1 motherboards work well with Coffee Lake if you mod them a bit. And B550 is just a B450 that is allowed to use CPU`s PCI-E 4.0 lanes. I`m running the first bios that supports Zen 2 CPUs and my MSI B450i Gaming Plus AC actually works with Gen 4 enabled. My 5700XT uses it according to radeon settings. One russian youtuber tested Gen 4 SSD on this thing and it worked! I guess I won`t update the bios in the future

It was removed due to high error rates on the boards - so while it may work and work reliably for you for some time, AMD found it could cause corruption on SSD's or issues with GPU's (In theory, similar to the random black screen issues some AMD users get with their 5700 cards)
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#52
Gmr_Chick
While I welcome more choice for potential Ryzen adopters who don't want to buy a pricier X570 board, I feel like this should have definitely come along sooner...like alongside the X570 release. Might just be me though.
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#53
gamefoo21
That press release screams of B550 being PCIe 3.0 off the chipset and the PCB being upgraded for 4.0.
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#54
Tsukiyomi91
how about we all wait for some reviews + benchmarks & then weigh in our opinions later? Right now, this news is plenty enough to shake Intel's half dead tree even more than the release of 3rd gen Ryzen back in July 2019.
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#55
Intervention
Tsukiyomi91how about we all wait for some reviews + benchmarks & then weigh in our opinions later? Right now, this news is plenty enough to shake Intel's half dead tree even more than the release of 3rd gen Ryzen back in July 2019.
No! Your advice is too sensible and logical to heed. They want to rumble and squeel over ones and zeroes.
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#56
Nihilus
gasolinaTerrible pricing to be honest the 3100 should be 80$ and 3300 100$ would be more reasonable , i have both the 3500x from taobao and the 2600/2600x . Gladly i sold the 3500x
You are making a fuss over $20?? Even in a vacuum, this is an amazing value. You are getting 1/2 of a 3700x for 1/3 the price. Stop and think about that for a moment.

Yes, the 1600af does exist for now, but on most games the 3300x will still be faster with 4 cores.

Then there is the upcoming i3. Sure it has an iGPU, but I just don't see the coming anywhere near this price. Combined with a B-450 or the newer B-550 you still will be able to buy a mainstream gpu for the price of an i3 and one of the new Z470 boards that are all looking very pricey.
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#57
Valantar
gamefoo21That press release screams of B550 being PCIe 3.0 off the chipset and the PCB being upgraded for 4.0.
Well, sure, but that is certainly a lot better than the handful of PCIe 2.0 lanes on B450, no? If B550 lets you add a couple of NVMe drives or one + an nGBE NIC without using the CPU PCIe lanes, that sure sounds like an excellent value proposition to me.
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#58
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Imagine if these new chips were 35W or 45W (even in ECO mode) for NAS and HTPC use...

ugh i have the upgrade itch
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#59
Valantar
MusselsImagine if these new chips were 35W or 45W (even in ECO mode) for NAS and HTPC use...

ugh i have the upgrade itch
Given the relative prevalence of configurable lower TDPs on other Ryzen 3000 desktop chips I wouldn't be surprised if they had the option - though it shouldn't be too difficult to undervolt them and/or set tighter restrictions for the on-board boost/power/thermal management to keep them at that power level with a minor performance loss.

Though to be frank for HTPC use, upcoming Renoir APUs are much more tempting to me.
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#60
notb
MusselsImagine if these new chips were 35W or 45W (even in ECO mode) for NAS and HTPC use...
Getting a CPU without hardware video encoder for HTPC seems like a fairly average idea. Same for a NAS if it's going to be used as video source.

AMD would surely launch an -E variant if there was a market for such CPUs. Which seems unlikely.
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#61
mechtech
ARFFor web surfing, you don't need a graphics card. There are very cheap APUs with integrated graphics.
Of course, the 3200G is great value www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-3-3200g/p/N82E16819113571 but if you jump to the 3400G, price skyrockets www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-3400g/p/N82E16819113570

A 3100 with an rx570 would be cheaper than a 3400g, at least here in Canada.

Sadly I could have picked up a 2700x for about 200 cnd about 3 months ago, about $400 now.
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#62
Valantar
mechtechOf course, the 3200G is great value www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-3-3200g/p/N82E16819113571 but if you jump to the 3400G, price skyrockets www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-3400g/p/N82E16819113570

A 3100 with an rx570 would be cheaper than a 3400g, at least here in Canada.
It's probably out of stock in anticipation of Renoir APUs arriving at some point. I saw a thread on another forum a while back commenting on this - it seems that either 12nm production is ramping down, AMD is allocating more Picasso dice to mobile (likely, as there are more 3000-series laptops than ever before), they are allocating more dice to better-selling SKUs, or they are just slowly letting retail APU stocks run out to pave the way for new chips. I would guess some combination of all four.
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#64
Valantar
Midland Dogwatch my 4690k destroy it in games lmao
At stock clocks? Highly doubtful. This is Zen 2, not Zen or Zen +, so it beats Skylake on IPC, has 2x the threads of your Haswell, and even the 3100 matches your clocks.
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#65
Caring1
ValantarAt stock clocks? Highly doubtful. This is Zen 2, not Zen or Zen +, so it beats Skylake on IPC, has 2x the threads of your Haswell, and even the 3100 matches your clocks.
Ignore the troll and it might go away.
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#66
Midland Dog
ValantarAt stock clocks? Highly doubtful. This is Zen 2, not Zen or Zen +, so it beats Skylake on IPC, has 2x the threads of your Haswell, and even the 3100 matches your clocks.
4.8ghz core 4.4 ring and 2666 cl10
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#67
Valantar
Midland Dog4.8ghz core 4.4 ring and 2666 cl10
Given that Zen 2 has a ~7% IPC advantage over Skylake, which again was ~15% above Haswell clock for clock, some quick and dirty napkin math tells us a 3.9GHz Zen 2 chip should be about on par with a 4.8GHz Haswell chip. At, I would guess, 1/4-1/3 the power consumption. About where progress ought to be, in other words - a low end $100 chip matching a heavily overclocked premium chip from a few years before. If Intel had been left to their own devices, we'd still be paying $300 for 4c8t chips at this performance level.
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#68
apoklyps3
ohh...B550, too little, too late.
Waited for its release for a long time.
Got B450 a few weeks ago.
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#69
gamefoo21
ValantarWell, sure, but that is certainly a lot better than the handful of PCIe 2.0 lanes on B450, no? If B550 lets you add a couple of NVMe drives or one + an nGBE NIC without using the CPU PCIe lanes, that sure sounds like an excellent value proposition to me.
Likely the lane setup will be exactly like the X570 on top. It'll be interesting to see how many 3.0 lanes are hanging off the chipset.

It definitely is better and it's why I didn't and still refuse to get a B450 or X470 chipset. You can't harsh Intel for not having PCIe 4.0 while still actively selling a product that is rocking lanes a decade out of date. Putting a NVME drive that's 4x 4.0 will be noticeably slower on 2.0, while it is in the noise on 3.0 and 4.0.

Still wish they'd get someone better to make these chipsets. -_-
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#70
apoklyps3
couldn't care less about NVMe.
1% real world performance when compared to SATA in gaming and most regular workloads.
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#71
ARF
Caring1Ignore the troll and it might go away.
This is brutal :nutkick:

If these are as fast as Core i7-7700K under normal conditions, then in gaming the Core i7-7700K might perform faster. We all know Ryzen's achilles heel - it's gaming.

Look at Core i5-4690K vs Core i5-7600K:

Midland Dogwatch my 4690k destroy it in games lmao
I agree with the point that these are highly unimpressive SKUs.
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#72
TheLostSwede
News Editor
gamefoo21That press release screams of B550 being PCIe 3.0 off the chipset and the PCB being upgraded for 4.0.
I guess you missed my comment where someone I know at one of the board makers confirmed that the PCIe 4.0 lanes are only from the CPU?
gamefoo21Still wish they'd get someone better to make these chipsets. -_-
Not many companies left. I guess VIA/VLI could've done something, or maybe Cypress (they have some chipset-like stuff), but beyond that, I don't know anyone else that has the in-house tech and know-how any more. ALi and SiS are long gone from that kind of business and the other USB 3.x host controller makers don't have enough in-house know-how to make the rest. I also doubt Nvidia would step up to make chipsets for their main competitor.
You got any other suggestions?
apoklyps3couldn't care less about NVMe.
1% real world performance when compared to SATA in gaming and most regular workloads.
I guess you haven't used a modern, fast NVMe drive then, but hey, you're on a forum, so maybe someone cares about your opinion...
I boot in less than half the time with an NVMe drive over a SATA drive, for starters. Large programs like Photoshop loads in less than half the time, etc.
Just because you're sour because you didn't get a B550 in a timely manner isn't our problem and no reason to diss other technology.
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#73
gamefoo21
TheLostSwedeI guess you missed my comment where someone I know at one of the board makers confirmed that the PCIe 4.0 lanes are only from the CPU?


Not many companies left. I guess VIA/VLI could've done something, or maybe Cypress (they have some chipset-like stuff), but beyond that, I don't know anyone else that has the in-house tech and know-how any more. ALi and SiS are long gone from that kind of business and the other USB 3.x host controller makers don't have enough in-house know-how to make the rest. I also doubt Nvidia would step up to make chipsets for their main competitor.
You got any other suggestions?


I guess you haven't used a modern, fast NVMe drive then, but hey, you're on a forum, so maybe someone cares about your opinion...
I boot in less than half the time with an NVMe drive over a SATA drive, for starters. Large programs like Photoshop loads in less than half the time, etc.
Just because you're sour because you didn't get a B550 in a timely manner isn't our problem and no reason to diss other technology.
Sorry, you are right I missed your earlier comment. I derped...

I guess there aren't many companies that can do chipsets left. :-(
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#74
ASOT
apoklyps3couldn't care less about NVMe.
1% real world performance when compared to SATA in gaming and most regular workloads.
Been using M2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB and is super fast :D ..no want regular SSD no more.
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#75
TheLostSwede
News Editor
gamefoo21I guess there aren't many companies that can do chipsets left. :-(
Unfortunately, mostly due to Intel no longer allowing third party chipsets.
As far as I can tell, AMD doesn't seem to be stopping a third party from making a suitable chipset for its Zen based CPUs and in theory, it shouldn't be all that complicated. However, the costs involved in getting all the interface licenses, if you don't already make products using them, makes it a very unappealing option.
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