Friday, July 30th 2021

ASUS Launches ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme Motherboard

ASUS today launched the Republic of Gamers (ROG) Crosshair VIII Extreme motherboard. This would go down as the first "Extreme" tier ROG Crosshair motherboard ever, as the AMD platform was relegated to "Formula" or "Hero" tiers. Built in the E-ATX form-factor, the board is based on the AMD X570 chipset (with fanless chipset cooling), comes with out of the box support for Ryzen 5000 "Vermeer" and Ryzen 5000G "Cezanne" processors, besides all other processor generations supported by the X570. The board draws power from a combination of 24-pin ATX, and two 8-pin EPS; and uses an 18+2 phase CPU VRM that has 90 A power stages.

The ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme is loaded to the brim with connectivity. Storage options include three M.2 NVMe Gen 4 slots, and six SATA 6 Gbps ports. Networking connectivity includes Wi-Fi 6E powered by an Intel controller, a 10 GbE interface driven by a Marvell AQtion controller, and a 2.5 GbE interface, from an Intel i225-V controller. USB connectivity includes 20 Gbps USB 3.2x2 ports with 60 W power delivery. The onboard audio solution is top-of-the-line, featuring a Realtek ALC4082 CODEC running alongside an ESS Sabre ES9018Q2C, and ROG Clavis USB DAC. The board is brimming with features relevant to overclockers. The company didn't reveal pricing.
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59 Comments on ASUS Launches ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme Motherboard

#26
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
This is competing with the Taichi Razer edition
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#27
TheLostSwede
News Editor
zlobbyYeah, only that some people need 40Gbps to their mobos and hell if I pay for a server board just for the PHY. Even Billy once claimed nobody needs more than 640KB RAM, yet here we are today.
More so, SFP cages are actually cheap since the expensive stuff is in the SFP themselves.
You're aware that SFP tops out at Gigabit speed, right? Even SFP+ only goes to 10 Gigabit. You're asking for QSFP+ on a consumer board :kookoo:
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#29
Shou Miko
TheLostSwedeYou're aware that SFP tops out at Gigabit speed, right? Even SFP+ only goes to 10 Gigabit. You're asking for QSFP+ on a consumer board :kookoo:
Hahaha
zlobbyYeah, only that some people need 40Gbps to their mobos and hell if I pay for a server board just for the PHY. Even Billy once claimed nobody needs more than 640KB RAM, yet here we are today.
Memory have evolved with software requirements and what you need for it all.

2021 is still not the place for consumers to use SFP/SFP+ it's a enterprice thing.

Yes I work in support at a small computer business even with use CAT6 regularly even business laptops and desktops only comes with gigabit ethernet for office use they haven't even concidered 2.5G options onboard.
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#30
zlobby
TheLostSwedeYou're aware that SFP tops out at Gigabit speed, right? Even SFP+ only goes to 10 Gigabit. You're asking for QSFP+ on a consumer board :kookoo:
Yes, I am asking for QSFP+ on a HEDT board.

'I don't need it, hence nobody else does' is one of my all-time favorites.
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#31
TheLostSwede
News Editor
zlobbyYes, I am asking for QSFP+ on a HEDT board.

'I don't need it, hence nobody else does' is one of my all-time favorites.
Uhm, this is not HEDT, this is just a high-end consumer board. I think you've mixed things up a bit.

And no, no consumer motherboard is going to need QSFP+, sorry, but you're really barking up the wrong tree here dude.
I have 10Gbps between this machine and my NAS, so yeah, I have nothing against fast networking speeds, but this board is not the market for what you're asking for.
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#32
LiveOrDie
would look better with a Intel socket :laugh:
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#33
oxrufiioxo
OverRatedwould look better with a Intel socket :laugh:
There is already a similar Z590 version it's just gimped in the pcie gen 4 department.
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#34
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
TurmaniaI suppose it will be around 200 usd plus or minus 10 usd. But then I drank a lot tonight....
Most likely, as the Formula version is about 600EUR already :laugh:
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#35
oxrufiioxo
Jill ValentineMost likely, as the Formula version is about 600EUR already :laugh:
Guessing 8-900 usd same as the Z590 varient
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#36
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
oxrufiioxoGuessing 8-900 usd same as the Z590 varient
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised at all.
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#37
oxrufiioxo
Jill ValentineYeah, wouldn't be surprised at all.
If I didn't already own two pretty decent X570 boards I would be tempted to pick it up as long as it ended up less than 1k usd.

Been wanting an Asus Extreme board for a while.
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#38
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
oxrufiioxoIf I didn't already own two pretty decent X570 boards I would be tempted to pick it up as long as it ended up less than 1k usd.

Been wanting an Asus Extreme board for a while.
My 2nd rig's X58 R3E is fair enough for me. :rolleyes:
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#39
katzi
No listed price, means it costs as much as a 6 bedroom 9 bathroom house in Inner London.
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#40
Totally
oxrufiioxoIf I didn't already own two pretty decent X570 boards I would be tempted to pick it up as long as it ended up less than 1k usd.

Been wanting an Asus Extreme board for a while.
My point exactly, I would have bought it in a heartbeat 1-2 years ago but now can't even think of a reason to get it nor does it offer anything new.
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#41
thegnome
oxrufiioxoGuessing 8-900 usd same as the Z590 varient
Would surprise everyone if it was cheaper than the Z590 version, even though it has many more (useful) features.
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#42
asdkj1740
TheLostSwedeYou forgot about their weird DIMM.2 thingie that takes another two drives.
However, there's "only" support for three PCIe 4.0 SSDs, the other two slots are PCIe 3.0.
cant be pcie3.0. chipset provides only gen4.
must be typo just like what msi listed on its x570.
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#44
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Marshal_90I miss the SABERTOOTH series :(
Yup Asus Pulled a Gigabyte with those boards.

Sabertooth Sounds better than Rox Strix.
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#45
Object55
Can someone explain, can I max out ?

3x NVME 4.0
2x NVME 3.0

and still run primary PCIe 4.0 x16 ?

Or at some point something has to be sacrificed ?
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#46
ThrashZone
eidairaman1Yup Asus Pulled a Gigabyte with those boards.

Sabertooth Sounds better than Rox Strix.
Hi,
Tuf isn't as cool as sabertooth
My x99 sabertooth asus with broadwell-e bios did kill quite a few haswell-e sabertooths mine is the only one in original existence from 2015
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#47
TheLostSwede
News Editor
asdkj1740cant be pcie3.0. chipset provides only gen4.
must be typo just like what msi listed on its x570.
Can't be? :roll:
If you connect a PCIe bridge chip, you could take four PCIe 4.0 lanes and turn them into eight PCIe 3.0, so yes it can be.
MSI also used PCIe 3.0 redrivers on some of their boards to force some lanes to be slower and to reduce cost, so again, it can be done.
Object55Can someone explain, can I max out ?

3x NVME 4.0
2x NVME 3.0

and still run primary PCIe 4.0 x16 ?

Or at some point something has to be sacrificed ?
Yes, it should be possible on this board, but we won't know for sure until we have a board diagram.
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#48
asdkj1740
TheLostSwedeCan't be? :roll:
If you connect a PCIe bridge chip, you could take four PCIe 4.0 lanes and turn them into eight PCIe 3.0, so yes it can be.
MSI also used PCIe 3.0 redrivers on some of their boards to force some lanes to be slower and to reduce cost, so again, it can be done.


Yes, it should be possible on this board, but we won't know for sure until we have a board diagram.
in reality, asrock uses asm1184e as pcie bridge to provide two pcie 2.0 x1 slots on z490 aqua.
as asm1184e takes gen2x1 as upstream only, i doubt it is really using gen3x1 from z490 chipset instead.

good luck hoping mobo manufactures to use gen4 bridge on x570 while we have almost never seen a gen3 bridge used on mainstream mobos.
what you said (gen4-->more gen3 // gen3--> more gen2) is even more hopeless to see. it is like we only see 10g usb hub/pcie ic used on two z590 extreme (asus and gigabyte).

asm1184e
www.asmedia.com.tw/zh-Hant/product/556yQ9dSX7gP9Tuf/b7FyQBCxz2URbzg0

z490 aqua
www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z490%20AQUA/Specification.asp#Specification
www.bilibili.com/read/cv7298155
Object55Can someone explain, can I max out ?

3x NVME 4.0
2x NVME 3.0

and still run primary PCIe 4.0 x16 ?

Or at some point something has to be sacrificed ?
5 nvme x4=20 lanes,
if you want x16 from cpu intactly, then chipset needs to be allocated x16 for 4*m.2 for you.
and then you have no on board network to use lol. go get some USB stick for wifi.
just kidding, no you probably cant have five x4 m.2 plus gpu x16.


x570 - 16 pcie

tb4 - x4
pcie x1 slot - x1
6 sata takes - x2 (4 out of 6 are not by pcie)
2*m.2 - x8
2*lan - x2
wifi - x1

18 pcie used if all of them are natively/direclty provided by chipset. so i think pcie controller ic is used to save some pcie lanes.
for example asm1061 , used x1 to provide 2*sata instead of x2 to provide 2*sata (by chipset).
also it seems there maybe some gen3 bridge used, super rare stuff.
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#49
TheLostSwede
News Editor
asdkj1740in reality, asrock uses asm1184e as pcie bridge to provide two pcie 2.0 x1 slots on z490 aqua.
as asm1184e takes gen2x1 as upstream only, i doubt it is really using gen3x1 from z490 chipset instead.

good luck hoping mobo manufactures to use gen4 bridge on x570 while we have almost never seen a gen3 bridge used on mainstream mobos.
what you said (gen4-->more gen3 // gen3--> more gen2) is even more hopeless to see. it is like we only see 10g usb hub/pcie ic used on two z590 extreme (asus and gigabyte).

asm1184e
www.asmedia.com.tw/zh-Hant/product/556yQ9dSX7gP9Tuf/b7FyQBCxz2URbzg0

z490 aqua
www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z490%20AQUA/Specification.asp#Specification
www.bilibili.com/read/cv7298155


5 nvme x4=20 lanes,
if you want x16 from cpu intactly, then chipset needs to be allocated x16 for 4*m.2 for you.
and then you have no on board network to use lol. go get some USB stick for wifi.
just kidding, no you probably cant have five x4 m.2 plus gpu x16.


x570 - 16 pcie

tb4 - x4
pcie x1 slot - x1
6 sata takes - x2 (4 out of 6 are not by pcie)
2*m.2 - x8
2*lan - x2
wifi - x1

18 pcie used if all of them are natively/direclty provided by chipset. so i think pcie controller ic is used to save some pcie lanes.
for example asm1061 , used x1 to provide 2*sata instead of x2 to provide 2*sata (by chipset).
also it seems there maybe some gen3 bridge used, super rare stuff.
Sorry, what?
You make no sense at all, this is an AMD X570 board, what does that have to do with an Intel Z490 board?

I hope you're aware that ASMedia isn't the only company making PCIe bridge chips, in fact, they were late to the game.
And you don't need to inform me of their product range, I'm well aware of it and I have both written about their products and incorporated their chips into a product.

In fact, what you're calling a controller is a bridge/splitter, not a controller.
You might want to consider some of their more up to date parts as well, that have more lanes.
Such as this for example.
www.asmedia.com.tw/product/507Yq4asXFzi9qt4/7c5YQ79xz8urEGr1
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#50
asdkj1740
TheLostSwedeSorry, what?
You make no sense at all, this is an AMD X570 board, what does that have to do with an Intel Z490 board?

I hope you're aware that ASMedia isn't the only company making PCIe bridge chips, in fact, they were late to the game.
And you don't need to inform me of their product range, I'm well aware of it and I have both written about their products and incorporated their chips into a product.

In fact, what you're calling a controller is a bridge/splitter, not a controller.
You might want to consider some of their more up to date parts as well, that have more lanes.
Such as this for example.
www.asmedia.com.tw/product/866yq74SPBqRdtgC/7c5YQ79xz8urEGr1
asmedia calls asm1061 as pcie to sata controller on its product page, i just follow that.
but when you google asm2182 + asus(or msi or whatever), the results are ...
on z490 if i remember it correctly only biostar uses asm2806.

back to this x570, if those m.2 are really gen3x4, maybe some usb to nvme "BRIDGE" (again, named by asmedia on for example asm2362) is used.
but asus bianbao said they are all gen4 slots on this x570 extreme.

i don't really care whether nxp / ti / diodes have designed such ic or not, in fact mobo vendors 99% wont use them, just like the poor 10g usb hub/controller/bridge whatever.

ps. intel z590 has 24 pcie lane natively, while x570 has 16 only, but even that on z590 we only see 5*m.2 mobo like asus extreme, just one.
given lots of high end z490's 3*m.2 slots are provided by the chipset, we should have seen max 6*m.2 on z590 (3 by cpu and 3 by chipset), but in fact, no such thing.
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