Thursday, November 25th 2021

AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Liquid Cooled Edition Now On Sale in Europe
AMD first announced the Radeon RX 6900 XT LC featuring a pre-binned Navi 21 XTXH GPU in June with the product only available to select system integrators and OEMs. These reference design cards were not expected to be available in the DIY market but listings for the cards appeared on some Indian retailers after the announcement. The card appears to be receiving a limited release with PowerColor's model (16GBD6-MW2DHC) now available to purchase from German retailer Mindfactory for 1749 EUR. The AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT LC features an increased boost clock speed of 2435 MHz from the 2250 MHz on the RX 6900 XT along with a memory speed boost from 16 Gbps to 18 Gbps.
Sources:
VideoCardz, Mindfactory
AMD will be making a limited number of Radeon RX 6900 XT liquid cooled reference design graphics cards available to select system integrators. System integrators are a critical part of the gaming ecosystem and offering this this model through their channels helps ensure that as many of these products as possible get into gamers hands.
84 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Liquid Cooled Edition Now On Sale in Europe
here is the Canadian pricing at newegg
Slightly better deal here Canada computers.
(Oh god remember the days of gargoyles and vampires and stuff on GPU boxes? Imagine erotic semi-nudes of male pro gamers. Paypal me money to stop me suggesting this idea to them)
Ah i was wondering why there was no fan + AIO design, this is for OEM's and SI's.
It's a limited edition looks product, thermals aint part of its design.
350W on a single 120mm rad is just asking for premature pump failure, I highly doubt these AIO would even last 3 years.
If it cost the same as regular 6900XT then it makes sense to buy this 6900XT LC and put a full-cover WB on it.
It better not be for mining only loads -.-
Such products are extensively tested, and if i'm correct the warranty is there as well.
The 295X2 had a TDP of 500W easily and they managed to run to this very day with the same AIO. Or at least a 120mm setup.
60 degees load for a dual GPU setup on a 120mm radiator.. is'nt what you call bad really. The 300W is nothing compared to what they can do.
The price is a bit high tho; i like the prestige in this thing; it's a exclusive card and it does hold some value being a high binned part.
(image from Anandtech) Why would it lead to that? These aren't un-cooled DDC pumps running at full speed, they are low power AIO pumps. They do not generate a lot of heat. Even if the fluid is hitting 40-45° there's no reason to expect this to cause premature pump failures. It's perfectly safe to run a setup like this for normal consumer usage for years and years with no expectation of rapid failure.
There are lots of reports about those FuryX pump whine and failure, just google them.
here is an example
But again: this is not proof of premature pump failures. It might be indicative that the Fury X cooler design was too exposed to permeation and/or evaporation. Or it might be a few units. A single example neither proves nor disproves anything. But fluid loss and pump failure are two distinct things. Yes, fluid loss can lead to pump failure, but there's no sign of that in this case.
And, while I didn't bother finishing the video, it did seem like he managed to refill it? Though he did seem to really play up the theatrics and make it as complicated as possible for himself. Refilling an AIO is entirely possible, it just isn't easy. It can certainly be done with less mess and hassle than he did.
Your google skills must be very lacking or you just feint ignorance, it doesn't take me that long to find some examples....
Oh, and as you are arguing that this is specifically down to them using a 120mm AIO for a high powered card, I assume you're able to show the same for every other hybrid GPU out there with a 120mm AIO as well? IIRC those have been around from various AIB partners since at least 2015, both for Nvidia an AMD's high end cards. Remember: if this is a systemic problem but specific to the Fury X, that doesn't prove your initial statement of a 120mm AIO on a high powered GPU being problematic - it might then be down to a poor design, a cheap pump (which it definitely had!), or any other of a number of variables unique to that GPU. To prove your point, you need to show it across a variety of GPUs. Because, just to remind you, this was the core of your original argument: So: either show some broadly applicable proof for that statement, and not an individual GPU, or please stop spreading FUD.
AIO always have higher failure rate than air cooler, it would be even less reliable when you put very high thermal load on an inadequate AIO.
But sure, just defend your theory, when you yourselve already experience pump whine on your Fury X, which could be an indicator of water permeation that could lead to early pump failure down the line.
There are so few FuryX owners that a few anecdotal evidences is probably all of them :roll:
Also, "it's just common sense" is just another way of saying "I have run out of arguments and/or data to back up my arguments".
And btw, why are you resorting to personal attacks here? I'm just asking you to back up your claims. Is that so offensive to you? Have I ever said anything against this? This is the key point though: this is a new claim, which requires new data to prove it. While heat can indeed kill pumps, there isn't necessarily a significant thermal pathway between an AIO pump and its fluid (there typically isn't, actually - the impellers typically have plastic axles or are entirely decoupled with magnetic drives), so thermal effects of running the loop hotter on pump failure are - at least until someone tests this and can show some proof - unknown.
As it seems you need to be spoon fed this: I am entirely open to this being a systemic problem. But so far, you have shown exactly zero proof as to this being the case. A couple of examples does not make a systemic problem. And as I said, my standards here are pretty low: even an article reporting on this being widespread, or a forum thread with more than a handful of people saying their pumps have died would be enough for me. But a couple of youtube videos or tweets showing examples of failed pumps? Not even close.
Judging by that "joke" at the end you also seem to have missed all the 980s , 980 Tis, 1080s, 1080 Tis and other hybrid GPUs with 120mm AIOs ... As I said: for your point to be true, these would also need to be affected by widespread premature failure.
DDC and D5 pumps have maximum water operating temps (Typically 60C for D5 and 50C for DDC), how do you think AIO pump is exempted from this?
I built 2 exact custom loops for a friend and I, he has 50C water temp and his Bitspower S1 pump failed after 2 years and my pump still kicking after ~4 years at 40C water temp (I use Noctua NF-A12x25 fans while my friend use EK Vardar 1200rpm fans). Yes I did warn my friend about possible early pump failure but he ignored it.
Coincident that my friend S1 pump failed and mine did not? hardly.
Mind you that the liquid temp inside those 6900XT LC would easily reach above 50C with room temperature at 25C, the longevity for these AIO is just dubious.
Though you are just gonna disregard any evidence as anecdotal evidence aren't you? Surely you are not running anything in your systems at temperature that you deem could cause potential failure? Like running your 6900XT at 180W undervolted instead of 300W+ that it could run without issue?
I guess you don't know that plastic is not a thermal insulator, the pump IC temperature is not decoupled from the liquid temperature. The specs for DDC pump also have maximum liquid temperature of 60C (I thought it was 50C earlier)
So yeah, couple with the fact that higher water temp will lead to faster rate of water permeation, it's not unfounded that cooling 350W with a single 120mm AIO will lead to EARLY pump failure. Well the AIO might live long, if you live in Alaska that is.
Not sure how legit this is but it seems the general consensus for max water temp for AIO is also 60C