From what I've seen, even with aggressive OC, the Zen4 "big dog" run below 250w.

Impressive despite the temperature...

I go into my YugiOHHH Tech card set and Summon "Cherry Picking Chip Maker" For the attack. Attacking Ngreedia's Life points!.

Heh... That is what I basically think when I hear this type of nonsense. I want to see real life numbers.

Not these " du - du - du - duel" marketing talking points being battled around by people with no life.

DenverFrom what I've seen, even with aggressive OC, the Zen4 "big dog" run below 250w.

Impressive despite the temperature...

Power won't be the user's bottleneck with Zen4, but rather thermals. AMD and media will explain why and how on release, next week

Just 5 days til launch
No need for more rumors

CrackongJust 5 days til launch
No need for more rumors

Is not a rumor, AMD gave green light to post the hwbot result.

champsilvaIs not a rumor, AMD gave green light to post the hwbot result.

Oh yeah you are right

I totally missed the 4:30pm ET 9/21/2022 Update in the original post, it was the AMD XOC team posting the second picture

Give it a few days and we'll see this CPU running with "reasonable" cooler.

this vs 13900KS 6ghz all out cores.

Two friends walk in the park...

Do you know what is really interesting? The Intel T chips with 35 W. Nice low clocks with high IPC and many cores (including E cores). AMD has their E chips too but AFAIK they are OEM only (unlike older Bulldozer-derivative generations when you still had retail 35/45W chips).

Chiller?

Dirt Chipthis vs 13900KS 6ghz all out cores.

Two friends walk in the park...

...One spontaneously catches fire, and the other suddenly melts down...

mplayerMuPDFDo you know what is really interesting? The Intel T chips with 35 W. Nice low clocks with high IPC and many cores (including E cores). AMD has their E chips too but AFAIK they are OEM only (unlike older Bulldozer-derivative generations when you still had retail 35/45W chips).

Intls' T CPUs has turbo north of 100w, if you chassing 35W you always can set custom limit on both AMD or Intel

noice...

just ~35C temp o_O:eek:

Jimmy_just ~35C temp o_O:eek:

39.5C and this is just for validation, literally idle without any load on the cpu

mplayerMuPDFDo you know what is really interesting? The Intel T chips with 35 W. Nice low clocks with high IPC and many cores (including E cores). AMD has their E chips too but AFAIK they are OEM only (unlike older Bulldozer-derivative generations when you still had retail 35/45W chips).

This chip @35 watts would kick ass without any E core's.

What's an Intel T chip got to do with this though.

And AMD E core's are not a thing though they do have mobile configured chips with normal core's that run that low.

I bet thats a one time run only at 1.4V. It would otherwise degrade the chip just like previous generations.

dj-electricPower won't be the user's bottleneck with Zen4, but rather thermals. AMD and media will explain why and how on release, next week

I find it impressive that some chips can clock this high with low voltage, while others need 1.4v.

It would be great if AMD could control these silicon properties to produce only gold chips.

Denver
I find it impressive that some chips can clock this high with low voltage, while others need 1.4v.

It would be great if AMD could control these silicon properties to produce only gold chips.

Without being gunned down by AMD for talking under contract, I can say that what AMD can do with its power play is going to impress many many people.

mplayerMuPDFDo you know what is really interesting? The Intel T chips with 35 W. Nice low clocks with high IPC and many cores (including E cores). AMD has their E chips too but AFAIK they are OEM only (unlike older Bulldozer-derivative generations when you still had retail 35/45W chips).

Intel 35W chips are practically OEM only as they are rarely available to the DIY market.

TheoneandonlyMrKThis chip @35 watts would kick ass without any E core's.

What's an Intel T chip got to do with this though.

And AMD E core's are not a thing though they do have mobile configured chips with normal core's that run that low.

That's why I said E chips, rather than E cores. I was referring to APUs such as the Ryzen 5 2400GE. Also, I doubt a 16-core at 35W is going to be very impressive in any other way than perhaps multithreaded performance. What T chips have to do with this is that there is still option to get modern chips that are highly efficient because they don't have ridiculously inefficient frequencies just to catch eyes.

usinameIntls' T CPUs has turbo north of 100w, if you chassing 35W you always can set custom limit on both AMD or Intel

About 100W peak is still a lot better than the hundreds of watts that "normal" chips draw these days. I can live with that if it only occurs for very short periods of time in extreme scenarios. Tweaking limits yourself is nice but I have no idea how to do that on Linux because there is no special proprietary software for that that runs on Linux. I just want sane defaults out of the box rather than this marketing nonsense.

Icon CharlieI go into my YugiOHHH Tech card set and Summon "Cherry Picking Chip Maker" For the attack. Attacking Ngreedia's Life points!.

Heh... That is what I basically think when I hear this type of nonsense. I want to see real life numbers.

Not these " du - du - du - duel" marketing talking points being battled around by people with no life.

You're here. And spouting off with this Yu-Gi-Oh. So yeah I guess that's enough said...