Thursday, September 29th 2022
Newegg Listings of Custom RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Indicate Pricing-Sanity Slowly Returning
As with the recent pre-launch listing of 13th Gen Core desktop processors, US retailer Newegg put out listings of various custom-design NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 "Ada" graphics cards, revealing their launch prices. These prices appear close enough to the $1,599 baseline price set by NVIDIA, to conclude that pricing sanity is slowly returning to the graphics card market. A lot will however depend on how the market behaves on October 12, when the RTX 4090 goes on sale; particularly whether scalpers vaporize inventory within minutes. Even if they did, scalpers would only see demand from the niche that actually wants to spend north of $1,600 on a graphics card, there are no crypto-currency miners lining up to buy graphics cards. Especially not after the Ethereum merge.
To illustrate that AIC prices are beginning to appear normal, one needs to look at the pricing of the MSI RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid, supposedly MSI's most premium RTX 4090 product, which is priced at $1,749, or just a $150 premium over the NVIDIA baseline. Several cards such as the ASUS TUF Gaming, GIGABYTE WindForce OC, and MSI Gaming (standard), are listed bang on the $1,599 baseline, while their OC siblings are at a small premium. The ASUS ROG Strix O24G is the most expensive card of the lot, priced at $1,999, or a $400 premium.
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To illustrate that AIC prices are beginning to appear normal, one needs to look at the pricing of the MSI RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid, supposedly MSI's most premium RTX 4090 product, which is priced at $1,749, or just a $150 premium over the NVIDIA baseline. Several cards such as the ASUS TUF Gaming, GIGABYTE WindForce OC, and MSI Gaming (standard), are listed bang on the $1,599 baseline, while their OC siblings are at a small premium. The ASUS ROG Strix O24G is the most expensive card of the lot, priced at $1,999, or a $400 premium.
63 Comments on Newegg Listings of Custom RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Indicate Pricing-Sanity Slowly Returning
At the time of my post NewEgg had the following in stock:
But today, AMD has the advantage of a superior process node but badly engineered Navi 21 cannot be substantially superior to the Samsung N8 offerings.
Look at the transistor density of Navi 21 vs GA102. 51.53 MTr/mm^2 (on TSMC N7 theoretical max 96.5 MTr/mm^2) vs 45.06 MTr/mm^2 (on Samsung 8N theoretical max 61.18 MTr/mm^2).
So, in theory TSMC is 57.7% better, while in practice AMD delivered only 14.3% betterment.
Odd if you don't see them...or maybe it's region restricted?
7700X+6750XT=$849 ($399 newegg+$450)
5900X+6950XT=$1299 ($368 amazon +$930)
You would think the reference cards are cheaper to make. Though maybe not, AMD did seem to go all out with the 6000 series reference design.
Sanity is when the 4090 is priced at 700$ (with less vram) and a proper Titan taking its place.
Ampere retail prices for custom AIBs cards were inflated across all models basically until recently. In the past custom cards were only ever $100-150 over Nvidia* or AMDs reference cards (*nvidia came out with FE cards a few yesrs wgo where originally they were priced at $100 over the MSRP of the card, and only sold by Nvidia).
What is shown by this article is exactly how it was in the past for custom cards. Base MSRP sure is high, but none of those 4090s are near 2x MSRP like Ampere was.$1599 is the 4090 MSRP.....
I really wanted RTX 3080 gaming + RTX A4500 workstation in one card, but alas, I'd have to buy two cards.
(as it is, I've settled on an A2000 and gave my RTX 3080 to my kid to game on)
Still hoping they drop a Titan card this gen.
I reckon both teams high end cards will totally commercially flop this generation due to that. Probably 50%+ less sales than prior gen.
Covid and mining are over, they don't get it. For example personally I spent £800 on a 6800xt in 2021. The only reason I did that, was because I wasn't legally able to spend money going out and doing other stuff.