Monday, November 21st 2022

LG Launches the UltraGear OLED With 240 Hz Refresh Rate

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TheLostSwede
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The first flat OLED gaming monitor is here and it's unsurprisingly from LG and part of its UltraGear range of gaming products and goes under the model name 27GR95QE-B. Although it's being touted as a 27-inch display, the screen size is only 26.5-inches, which is a bit unusual. The resolution is 2560 x 1440, with a pixel pitch of 110.8 PPI and the refresh rate goes up to 240 Hz. The OLED panel is capable of delivering 1.07 billion colours and delivers a colour gamut of 98.5 percent of the DCI-P3 standard. LG claims the display has a GtG response time of 0.03 ms which is so far unheard of on a consumer display. LG doesn't supply a brightness rating, nor does the UltraGear OLED appear to have any kind of HDR certification, but supports HDR10, although considering it's an OLED panel, this shouldn't be much of a concern.

There's support for FreeSync Premium and VRR, with the display being G-Sync compatible as well. Other gaming related features include the typical things you'd find on most gaming displays today, such as an FPS counter, a built in crosshair and of course some RGB lighting features. Connectivity wise the UltraGear OLED comes with two unspecified HDMI ports and one unspecified DisplayPort input, as well as one upstreams USB 3.0 port (Type-B) and two downstreams USB 3.0 ports (Type-A). The monitor also has an S/PDIF out and a headset jack, which suggests that it does audio over USB. Finally there's a barrel plug for the 19 V power brick. The display also has support for DTS HP:X where HP stands for headphones, but there are no built in speakers. The stand supports tilt, height, swivel and pivot adjustments and can be adjusted up to 11 cm in height. LG is asking US$999.99 for the UltraGear OLED, which might be a bit more than what most people would be willing to pay for it, but it's at least a first step towards a range of new OLED gaming monitors.
Sources: LG, via @quasarzone

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97 Comments on LG Launches the UltraGear OLED With 240 Hz Refresh Rate

#26
bug
GerKNGthat's not the point.
i want a warranty for this 1000€! OLED to cover burn in even at 100% brightness for 5 years because i already spend a thousand bucks on a 27 inch 1440p monitor (a full peace of mind warranty). otherwise i won't even bother wasting money again in another oled (we had a C1 in my parents house and it had significant burn in after just ~18 months.)
You really, really don't want that. No eye-doctor can save you after 5 years of looking at a monitor at 100% brightness.

Edit: My CX is now over 2 years old with no burn-in whatsoever. Clearly you're not setting brightness properly.
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#27
Chomiq
Garrus240hz you mean, samsung did it, LG can too
Good luck trying to drive 4K at 240 Hz.
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#28
TheDeeGee
TheLostSwedeUhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?
So true.

I only use my current EIZO CX240 from 2012 at 50cd/m², which equals about 17%. And that's pretty bright to my eyes in a dark room with mood lighting.
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#29
Unregistered
That's a step on the right direction, and not very expensive compared to other inferior monitors. Now we need a 4k, 1440p is too low even at 27" (why don't we have 1800p monitors?).
#30
AnarchoPrimitiv
Anyone know off the top of their head what's the most affordable OLED TV at 42/43" with 120hz and VRR?
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#31
TheDeeGee
Xex360That's a step on the right direction, and not very expensive compared to other inferior monitors. Now we need a 4k, 1440p is too low even at 27" (why don't we have 1800p monitors?).
1440p at 27 inch is perfectly fine from what i gathered, just like 1080p at 24 inch is the upper limit for that resolution.

4K would bump the price by $500, not to mention you need an expensive GPU to drive that.
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#32
bug
AnarchoPrimitivAnyone know off the top of their head what's the most affordable OLED TV at 42/43" with 120hz and VRR?
Probably still LG CX/C1/C2, depending on which one you can (still) get.
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#34
rv8000
Oh look, yet another 27” 4K panel…
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#35
BorisDG
Nah, keep that OLED tech away from PC monitors... keep it in phones. Give us microLED.
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#36
Chomiq
AnarchoPrimitivAnyone know off the top of their head what's the most affordable OLED TV at 42/43" with 120hz and VRR?
There's only one choice - LG C2.
rv8000Oh look, yet another 27” 4K panel…
Oh look, you didn't even read the OP - it's 1440p.
BorisDGNah, keep that OLED tech away from PC monitors... keep it in phones. Give us microLED.
While it's not microLED but miniLED instead look at GP 27U and 27Q from Cooler Master.

Sadly no VRR & HDR at the same time, not until firmware update. 576 dimming zones.
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#37
TheDeeGee
ChomiqMeantime:


Yes, I know - it's not a monitor.
Meanwhile my desk is 80CM deep, not 2 meters.

Or do you also enjoy a tennis neck?
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#38
Chomiq
TheDeeGeeMeanwhile my desk is 80CM deep, not 2 meters.

Or do you also enjoy a tennis neck?
Doesn't stop you from wall mounting it.
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#39
TheDeeGee
BorisDGNah, keep that OLED tech away from PC monitors... keep it in phones. Give us microLED.
Sadly many many years away from becoming a reality as a gaming monitor, let alone affordable.
ChomiqDoesn't stop you from wall mounting it.
Still way too big then, 32 inch would be the limit for a 80CM deep desk and wall mount.
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#40
Dredi
ChomiqWhile it's not microLED but miniLED instead look at GP 27U and 27Q from Cooler Master.

Sadly no VRR & HDR at the same time, not until firmware update. 576 dimming zones.
just no. Pure garbage.
OK for watching HDR cat videos, maybe. For anything else the choice is obviously oled. Or microLED, if one has deep pockets.
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#41
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TheDeeGee1440p at 27 inch is perfectly fine from what i gathered, just like 1080p at 24 inch is the upper limit for that resolution.

4K would bump the price by $500, not to mention you need an expensive GPU to drive that.
I replaced a 27 1440p 144hz to a 4k 60hz, which I run a 100% scaling, I had them side by side for few days while it was good for gaming and much smoother, but it wasn't very sharp nor did offer enough space to work with, a perfect 27" would be running at 1800p, sharp enough, more space while not very hard on the GPU.

But I do agree, 4k option will be very expensive, and for gaming 1440p is good enough.
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#42
Guwapo77
ChomiqGood luck trying to drive 4K at 240 Hz.
The 4090 already averages 150 FPS @ 4K according to TPU's review. So a 4K 240hz QD-OLED would be freaking amazing. If they can do that at 27-32"...I would buy that in a heartbeat.
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#43
oxrufiioxo
bugYou really, really don't want that. No eye-doctor can save you after 5 years of looking at a monitor at 100% brightness.

Edit: My CX is now over 2 years old with no burn-in whatsoever. Clearly you're not setting brightness properly.
In the states Bestbuy's 5 year warranty would cover that so hopefully they carry this monitor.

I have it on both my oled TV's

The nice thing is if it does burn in they replace it with somthing new that cost whatever you purchased the original tv for.
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#44
rv8000
ChomiqThere's only one choice - LG C2.


Oh look, you didn't even read the OP - it's 1440p.


While it's not microLED but miniLED instead look at GP 27U and 27Q from Cooler Master.

Sadly no VRR & HDR at the same time, not until firmware update. 576 dimming zones.
Thought I was replying to the Phillips monitor article just above this one.
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#45
bug
TheDeeGeeMeanwhile my desk is 80CM deep, not 2 meters.

Or do you also enjoy a tennis neck?
Rotate the desk 90 degrees, problem solved :peace:
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#46
R-T-B
Chrispy_So $999 is a lot of money for a brand that has been unable to really address burn-in issues despite the competition doing a pretty solid job.

I want to like this, but LG's track record so far has been bad, based on customer reviews and mainstream youtube channels.
I really doubt the burn-in hype based on my experience, as I've said repeatedly. I don't know many actual users who consider it a serious concern anymore if you just set a screensaver.
DrediAny relevant ones since the 8 -series? All I’ve seen have been just fine after the panel refresh, and latest models simply do that more often automatically to limit the ””problems”” visibility to the end user.
Not that I am aware of. My B9 from launch year is going strong.

My main concerns with this, from experience, are whether it's an LG or JOLED panel, and whether it is RGB or WRGB. Also have they truly fixed VRR gamma shift yet?
TheLostSwedeUhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?
Honestly? Me. I also completely disable burnin mitigations because I'm a heartless bastard.
GerKNGwhich warranty of a display ever said that you void it with a certain brightness or usage?
Plasma?
bugNo eye-doctor can save you after 5 years of looking at a monitor at 100% brightness.
Good to know I'm doomed.
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#47
bug
R-T-BGood to know I'm doomed.
I wasn't joking. For a comfortable experience you need 120nits. Poor monitors will easily do 300-400nits. You do not want to look into that for long periods.
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#48
R-T-B
bugI wasn't joking. For a comfortable experience you need 120nits. Poor monitors will easily do 300-400nits. You do not want to look into that for long periods.
I've been doing it for years in HDR mode with my paperwhite at 200nits. Is that so awful? I still have 20/20 vision.

For SDR content I do tend to prefer 200nits, my thinkpads 400nits display is generally at half brightness.

I'm not sure 120 nits in my work environment would even be usable.
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#49
bug
R-T-BI've been doing it for years in HDR mode with my paperwhite at 200nits. Is that so awful? I still have 20/20 vision.
200nits is not that bad, but 300+ would be. 200nits can be a requirement in a bright environment, but pretty painful in dark room.
Also, HDR is different, peak brightness is not meant to be sustained and it's not even across the entire screen.
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#50
R-T-B
bug200nits is not that bad, but 300+ would be. 200nits can be a requirement in a bright environment, but pretty painful in dark room.
Also, HDR is different, peak brightness is not meant to be sustained and it's not even across the entire screen.
Yeah. The OLEDs can do high highlights but I have mine calibrated to do paperwhite (99% of the desktop) at 200nits. Much better than you were thinking I think, lol.

Yeah 300-400 sustained you get holes for eyes.
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