Friday, October 11th 2024
MSI OCLab Reveals Ryzen 9000X3D 11-13% Faster Than 7000X3D, AMD Set to Dominate "Arrow Lake" in Gaming
MSI OCLab made some groundbreaking disclosures about the gaming performance of upcoming AMD Ryzen 9000X3D processors. It looks like AMD is set to dominate the Intel Core Ultra 2-series "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors in gaming performance, if these numbers hold up. In the games that MSI tested, namely "Far Cry 6," "Shadow of the Tomb Raider," and "Black Myth: Wukong," the "8-core 9000X3D" processor, or the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, is found to be 11% faster on average than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The "16-core 9000X3D" processor, which is expected to be the Ryzen 9 9950X3D, is an impressive 13% faster than its predecessor, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.
Normally we'd expect bigger gen-on-gen gains for the 8-core part than the 16-core part, but the 16-core 9000X3D pulling ahead by that much over its predecessor hints at the possibility of AMD either giving it significantly higher clock speeds, or the rumor about AMD deploying both 3D V-cache on both its CCDs could be true after all. The 9950X3D could end up roughly on-par with the 9800X3D if this turns out to be true, given that the gaming performance delta between the 7800X3D and 7950X3D is roughly that much—2-3 percentage points. Intel earlier this week officially announced the Core Ultra 2-series desktop processors. As part of the announcement, the company put out some first-party gaming performance numbers, which put the top Core Ultra 9 285K either on-par with the Core i9-14900K, or faster by 2-3%, which means it should land behind even the 7950X3D in gaming performance, and AMD is set to dominate Intel in gaming performance with the 9000X3D series.
Sources:
HardwareLuxx.de, Videocardz
Normally we'd expect bigger gen-on-gen gains for the 8-core part than the 16-core part, but the 16-core 9000X3D pulling ahead by that much over its predecessor hints at the possibility of AMD either giving it significantly higher clock speeds, or the rumor about AMD deploying both 3D V-cache on both its CCDs could be true after all. The 9950X3D could end up roughly on-par with the 9800X3D if this turns out to be true, given that the gaming performance delta between the 7800X3D and 7950X3D is roughly that much—2-3 percentage points. Intel earlier this week officially announced the Core Ultra 2-series desktop processors. As part of the announcement, the company put out some first-party gaming performance numbers, which put the top Core Ultra 9 285K either on-par with the Core i9-14900K, or faster by 2-3%, which means it should land behind even the 7950X3D in gaming performance, and AMD is set to dominate Intel in gaming performance with the 9000X3D series.
123 Comments on MSI OCLab Reveals Ryzen 9000X3D 11-13% Faster Than 7000X3D, AMD Set to Dominate "Arrow Lake" in Gaming
That said, AMD will basically have to slash prices for the lower non-X3D parts, unless they got the balls to release the 9800X3D for $550+.
edit: looks like they removed the slides now :(
There is only a single game in the three games that were shown on the slides that reached 11% to 13% and that is Far Cry 6. There is no "11% faster on average" here. Far from it. The other two games (Wukong and SotTR) only performed 2% to 4% better which is, quite frankly, pathetic. This makes it an average of 5.6% as WCCFTechpointed out themselves:Far Cry 6 is the outlier because it reacts pretty well to faster clocks. We will likely see a lot more increases in the 2% to 4% range (or maybe 4% to 6% on final silicon) because Far Cry 6 is NOT the norm.
If this turns out to be true, it would make the 9800X3D about as equally disappointing as the regular Zens in a gen vs. gen comparison. We are mostly looking at single digit average performance gains here.
On the pro side: This should hopefully bring the prices of the 7800X3D back in line and 9800X3D also should not sell for a new kidney. I hope AMD will have decent stock available at launch. Otherwise, we will probably have to wait quite a bit longer for that much needed price slide to happen.
Not a big deal...
As pointed out above, it's one game only.
This'll be interesting.
So to me this looks like game engines need to be updated and optimized to not only use more threads of the processors, but also utilize the existing threads more efficiently.
Do not forget - with the first and second security flaw updates the hardware will be slower as current hardware or even. The compare point is current 7000 amd processor generations. Second compare point for 100% is this hardware at release date.
~10% is easily lost with a security flaw/s as the past has shown.
interesting, and unfortunate, but it is what it is. honestly my 7900 xt and 7800x3d were smart purchases
Where I consider AMD's dominance is in Performance/Watt, hopefully something Intel will address this generation, since their extremely over-volted, over-heating, over-clocked CPUs haven't been appealing for several generations now. TSMC to the rescue, as always!
FC6 +13%
SOTR +2%
Wukong +2%
= 17% /3 = 5,67%
The same for 16-core
Second, the Intel machines BSOD during gameplay every day or so, which cause much more wasted time and progress ;)