Wednesday, February 8th 2023

Philips Launches Earphones Specifically Designed to be Used During Sleep

Philips brand licensee TP Vision has announced a set of earphones specifically designed to be used while sleeping. The N7808 sleep headphones with Kokoon have been designed specifically to be worn during sleep and the in-ear monitors (IEMs) have been designed to be as unobtrusive and comfortable as possible during sleep. Part of the reason for this, is a very compact body that is only 6 mm thick, which Philips claims is thanks to the use of balanced armature drivers and should be compared to regular earphones that often have a body with a thickness of 20 mm or or more. However, what makes the N7808's really special, is that it also features sensors that monitor your sleep pattern, that will fade out the audio as the wearer falls asleep.

The downside is that many of the sensors are placed in a compartment that rests behind your neck and this is also where the battery and Bluetooth connectivity is located. It doesn't appear to be any kind of ANC built in, as the company only mentions noise isolation. However, the heaphones are said to be inducing "intelligent" white noise that is said to masking sounds that make you wake up. The battery is said to be good for 10 hours of usage, which should be sufficient for most people. The partner app designed together with Kokoon allows the user to monitor their sleep duration, as well as the kind of sleeping state the user has attained and for how long during the night. The SN7808 is currently offered at an introductory price of US$174, with an MSRP of US$249.
Source: Philips
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29 Comments on Philips Launches Earphones Specifically Designed to be Used During Sleep

#2
Vayra86
Yeah because sleeping on your belly is widely considered a good practice...

WTF

Philips is looking for the next mass claim?
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#3
Space Lynx
Astronaut
SOAREVERSORBut why?
Some people want to see if they can improve their snoring, deep state of sleeps, through diet, weight loss, etc. Sleep is very important and not everyone wants or needs a sleep study that costs 8 grand in USA.

This would work for me as I don't sleep on my back, only side or stomach. I am still skeptical though, like it would be nice to see some results posted in their actual advertising campaign.
Vayra86Yeah because sleeping on your belly is widely considered a good practice...

WTF

Philips is looking for the next mass claim?
yeah sleeping on my belly is a really bad habit I need to break. I have been getting better at sleeping on my side, a proper investment into a good leg pillow was a good idea.
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#4
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Vayra86Yeah because sleeping on your belly is widely considered a good practice...
Works on your back too...
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#5
Vayra86
TheLostSwedeWorks on your back too...
Oh yeah nice, with a battery pack in your neck, where can I sign up
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#6
Space Lynx
Astronaut
TheLostSwedeWorks on your back too...
what @Vayra86 was implying is that sleeping on your back with all of that device stuff behind your head, would be too uncomfortable for a lot of people.
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#7
Chaitanya
SOAREVERSORBut why?
same thoughts but I know someone who like to sleep listening to light music and dont want to disturb everyone by using speakers. also as other pointed out there are health reasons as well.
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#8
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Space Lynxwhat @Vayra86 was implying is that sleeping on your back with all of that device stuff behind your head, would be too uncomfortable for a lot of people.
I doubt it's very comfortable either which way you sleep. I can't even sleep with an eye mask on...
Vayra86Oh yeah nice, with a battery pack in your neck, where can I sign up
Just follow the source link :toast:
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#9
neatfeatguy
Space LynxSome people want to see if they can improve their snoring, deep state of sleeps, through diet, weight loss, etc. Sleep is very important and not everyone wants or needs a sleep study that costs 8 grand in USA.

This would work for me as I don't sleep on my back, only side or stomach. I am still skeptical though, like it would be nice to see some results posted in their actual advertising campaign.



yeah sleeping on my belly is a really bad habit I need to break. I have been getting better at sleeping on my side, a proper investment into a good leg pillow was a good idea.
My sleep study was just done at home, only cost around $500-600 for the equipment and follow up appointment (still overpriced if you ask me). Having earbuds stuffed into your ear isn't going to help with snoring or anything of that nature.

If they help you get better sleep through ambient noises or music, then cool. But if you have troubles with snoring or sleep apnea, these will do nothing for you. If you have to go in for a sleep study at a sleep facility it may cost thousands of dollars, I can't comment on that, but the at home test was pretty inexpensive in comparison to a possible $8k.
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#10
Space Lynx
Astronaut
neatfeatguyMy sleep study was just done at home, only cost around $500-600 for the equipment and follow up appointment (still overpriced if you ask me). Having earbuds stuffed into your ear isn't going to help with snoring or anything of that nature.

If they help you get better sleep through ambient noises or music, then cool. But if you have troubles with snoring or sleep apnea, these will do nothing for you. If you have to go in for a sleep study at a sleep facility it may cost thousands of dollars, I can't comment on that, but the at home test was pretty inexpensive in comparison to a possible $8k.
some people (like me) need more advanced sleep study, it cost 8 grand (insurance paid all but like $400 or something though, this was many years ago).

at home test is fine for most people unless your Doctor determines you need more advanced sleep study. just fyi.
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#11
Denver
What are the chances of this device exploding overnight and killing or seriously injuring the user? :p
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#12
Chomiq
Whenever I wear earplugs during sleep my ears hurt a bit in the morning. Don't think this is going to be a hit.
Vayra86Oh yeah nice, with a battery pack in your neck, where can I sign up
*insert burning lipo battery footage here*
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#14
TechLurker
If one wants the cheap, Sino option, there are sleep eye-masks that have basic headphones built into them and a tiny battery pack available on Amazon. Lasts about 4 hours, and only useful if one is a back or belly sleeper, but if the goal is some kind of sleep music to help one sleep, it does a serviceable job.
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#15
kiriakost
I use regular Samsung TV and timer as bed time story.
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#16
Fasola
neatfeatguyHaving earbuds stuffed into your ear isn't going to help with snoring or anything of that nature.
Definitely helped in my case while in the hospital where others were snoring and/or screaming in the night.
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#17
FierceRed
FasolaDefinitely helped in my case while in the hospital where others were snoring and/or screaming in the night.
Screaming patients during the overnight hospital stay is low-key an IRL survival horror level.

At least they serve you green+red herbs in the morning.
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#18
DeathtoGnomes
With that price I'm gonna go right out and buy them now!
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#19
A&P211
DenverWhat are the chances of this device exploding overnight and killing or seriously injuring the user? :p
Since the battery will explode behind your head, the death will be quick.
TheLostSwedeI doubt it's very comfortable either which way you sleep. I can't even sleep with an eye mask on...


Just follow the source link :toast:
For me, the best thing I bought for a better sleep was a sleep mask. Now I have 5 incase I lose one or the dog eats it for lunch. I love my big bastard (dog) but he loves to eat those sleep masks, last year he ate 4.
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#20
toooooot
Doubt it. I mean sleeping in these wont work for many. And the reason being--sensitive ears.
I get discomfort from wearing any ear devices for more than 1 hour. And if I keep wearing them I get headache.
8 hours of wearing these will be extremely uncomfortable for some.
Those wires will leave deep marks on ears too.
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#21
sLowEnd
Been there, tried that. Having anything (earbuds, earplugs...etc.) in my ears makes for an uncomfortable sleep.
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#22
ThrashZone
SOAREVERSORBut why?
Hi,
Noisy neighbors, environment in general like traffic/ trains/ dogs/... or just that damn bird nest in the tree next to your bedroom I've had many bad thoughts about morning doves and about how tasty they would be for an early breakfast :laugh:
TheLostSwedeI doubt it's very comfortable either which way you sleep. I can't even sleep with an eye mask on...


Just follow the source link :toast:
Yeah I can't really even use ear buds for an hour.
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#23
trsttte
I think there are much better alternatives than these. It's one of the few cases where I think true wireless headphones make sense, day to day there's always the risk of them falling, while in bed it's a major plus not having anything connecting them. There are a couple of very confortable ones too, I like the original Galaxy buds (the ones shaped like beans) for example, Bose also has some very small earbuds though those were restricted to the provided ambient sounds, no customization
ChaitanyaForgot to add Phillips has a long history of making health products. They have been selling these wake up lights for nearly a decade at this point:
www.usa.philips.com/c-m-pe/light-therapy/sleep-wake-up-light/latest#availability=all&filters=WAKEUP_LIGHT_SU2
Not just generic health stuff either, they're a major supplier of medical equipment, anything from ventilators to mri and ct scan machines
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#24
sepheronx
I'll sleep more when I'm dead. Then they can put these on me before I'm put into the furnace and face eternal damnation.

Otherwise, I can live with a fan for white noise to help me sleep. Having stuff in my ear generally bothers me.

These are perfect for my wife though, she can listen to her propaganda like she normally does, without complaining to me how her airpods hurt her ears at night.
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#25
zlobby
DenverWhat are the chances of this device exploding overnight and killing or seriously injuring the user? :p
Not high enough!
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